A Factory in the US...

[Gofo2]

I was wondering why there is no factory in the US. There are plenty of people with the money to find a building, hire the appropriate engineers, and other types of skilled employees to get a factory here. Is it a matter of permits? If they only produced the small personal atomizers, are they not legal to manufacture?
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Maybe those entrepreneurs that know of these devices and use them are worried about legalities and possible banning? I also read that Ludo says they are not making much money because they are suporting many families both in their country and several others. Is that because they spread too quickly? I have owned my own business and no manufacturing was required, the overhead was high but I made money after the initial 3 years or so that most companies require to really become profitable. Most people build that capitol into their planning for the early years. But, mostly that is because I needed a location that would attract people. This sort of factory could be in an inexpensive location as far as real estate. I am not sure of the skills needed to build the automated machines that would produce the various parts. But we certainly have much more sophisticated machinery in use. Of course no one would need to reinvent the wheel. A trip to China to visit a factory would be helpful.

It just appears to be such a simple device, I don't understand. It just seems that the money, skills, materials and motivation would exist here.


I am new so I have never seen this discussed, but I wondered what obstacles are stopping someone or a group of people in this country from building a manufacturing plant. Even in this recesson their are plenty of people with money.

 

[frogbmth]

I very much doubt anybody would be willing to invest in such a venture with the current outlook to be honest.

 

[invidregis]

The US could never touch china on the labor costs.

 

[Gofo2]

The US could never touch china on the labor costs.

Yet, we manufacture plenty of other things we want. What's the difference?

 

[Gofo2]

Also, I am too early in my membership to post url's but I googled "manufacturing gadgets " and found lots of local places that advertised to manufacture what sounded like about anything you would want. They described in detail what serices they offer, even distribution.

If you are curious google "manufacturing gadgets" with NO quotes and you will see exactly what I did. Look at the one in Lexington, KY--they seem to mention all of the necessary aspects required.`The fact that it has an electronic component is common.

 

[Kobayashi]

I dont see this happening until FDA issues resolved. Doesnt make sense to build a factory for ecigs hardware as it may be a couple million to start it up. Would be a shame to build a factory just to be told by the FDA that you can sell them to anyone.

 

[kinabaloo]

Patents might be part of the answer too.

The inner atomiser (901) at least looks like it is hand assembled (about 10 tiny pieces) - labor intensive.

However, perhaps the creation of new technology might counter both these issues.

 

[Ryle]

Yet, we manufacture plenty of other things we want. What's the difference?

If you look around, we really don't manufacture all that much in the US anymore. Just about everything around me is made in China or some other country where they can pay their workers $0.10 an hour or whatever. I just loked around my desk and even my whiteout is made in Mexico.. Pen, stapler, ipod, calculator, wallet, tape holder and computer are all stamped China, only my highlighter, chapstick, and hand sanitizer are made in USA. I don't know about where you live, but I live in Phoenix and about 70% of the cars on the road are Asian or German make, and did you know that even a lot of Ford plants are overseas or in Mexico? And the part I find the most amusing.. even the things that are made in the US are mostly made by foreign immigrants. Like my house.. It was built by mexicans. I think it's just the american way.. too lazy to build things ourselves.

*shrug* just my 2cents

 

[skullsoup432]

Double or triple the price you paid for your computer, cell phone, TV, DVD player, microwave....

We can not compete with cheap labor. Instead of going to the dollar store, you would have to go to the $3 or $5 store.

 

[Ryle]

Skullsoup432 - I know.. sux don't it. I was just making a point to Gofo2 since they suggested that making things in the US was done all the time and no big deal. Back 30-40 years or so ago we made like.. everything. But now it's just cheaper to import... I'm just not going to bother going on and on about all the issues with that because I'll get myself worked up and then I'll never .... lol

 

[skullsoup432]

Skullsoup432 - I know.. sux don't it. I was just making a point to Gofo2 since they suggested that making things in the US was done all the time and no big deal. Back 30-40 years or so ago we made like.. everything. But now it's just cheaper to import... I'm just not going to bother going on and on about all the issues with that because I'll get myself worked up and then I'll never .... lol

I know what you mean about getting worked up. I used to (notice used to, the shop closed) work at a factory that made parts for GM. We new that sometimes the parts we made were defective. They didn't work correctly, the color was off or such. When the supervisor was told, his/her reply was "Ship "em." All that was worried about was rate. Quantity over quality. We were union (not UAW), paid good money, and still mucked things up. Not that other countries don't manufacture crap sometimes.

America can't compete with China, Mexico, Japan...

Yep, about time for my blood pressure pill. Think I'll toss down an extra Xanax and Librium, just for kicks.

 

[Ryle]

lol that's the reason I try and keep myself from getting worked up.. about anything... I know too many people with heart problems + they're genetic right? IDK.. If it's stressful.. I ignore or avoid it at all costs makes me seem like a dope sometimes.. but I'm a happy one!


The world is puppies and rainbows darnit! if you dont agree.. I'll stab you in the neck! .. jk

 

[breakfastchef]

When all of us are willing to pay $5.00 for the same pair of socks made in China that costs $2.50, we can change the world. Until then, we have absolutely no reason to complain about getting our basic needs at a lower cost. Lowest cost, best deal; call it what you may. It is part of the fabric of the American society and will not go away anytime in the near or distant future. The consumer holds the ultimate power and it seems to be directed to Wal-Mart!

 

[Gofo2]

Well, guess I think differently about what I buy. When my husband brought some steaks from from Wal-Mart, they were disgusting (they inject them with some solution). We decided to buy all of our food from Dierberg's or Schnuck's, we always have. Both St. Louis families that have built a small empire and have many stores in 2 or 3 states now. They are higher than Wal-Mart but the quality is so much better. We sometimes get diet coke and bullets there and a few other things now and then. But, most of our money goes back into our local economy.

People that work in these local chains, many have done so for their entire lives. These stores are competative and doing fine as far as I know. They pay employees better than Wal-Mart.