A few Cartomizer questions

[tripleh3lix]

Well I followed someone's advice on here cause I did not like the nicotine filter, washed it out "really good" and refilled it with the vanilla one I got with about 20-25 drops and spun it around got a few more in there. I let it sit about 45 minutes and started vaping. Seems to still be working great. I was wondering if this is the right method, or is that too excessive considering what the sites support told me with 2-3 drops and it should last about a pack or two of cigs? Also I was wondering how long should these cartomizers last with their life spans, also how long does the liquid last that you put in it? Now I'm not a crazily heavy smoker, I smoke about 10-12 cigs a day. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

 

[tripleh3lix]

Bump, don't mean to be a pest, but may someone please answer?

 

[tresrottn]

I am right in your ballpark...10-15 ciggies a day.

I have two or three carts with different flavors. I swap them out as I work and play throughout the day. When I top them off, I put maybe 5 drops in the heaviest used cart.
I never fill it to puddly, just till it looks nice and moist. I have never vaped a battery to dead (ok, day before yesterday = not enough nicotine, being silly), and the only cart that went dry was a prefilled carto

Good luck!

 

[tripleh3lix]

I am right in your ballpark...10-15 ciggies a day.

I have two or three carts with different flavors. I swap them out as I work and play throughout the day. When I top them off, I put maybe 5 drops in the heaviest used cart.
I never fill it to puddly, just till it looks nice and moist. I have never vaped a battery to dead (ok, day before yesterday = not enough nicotine, being silly), and the only cart that went dry was a prefilled carto

Good luck!

Thanks buddy. So do you fill them daily? Or every other day?

 

[LACENAIRE35]

Thanks buddy. So do you fill them daily? Or every other day?

I think it depends on the carts. I use Turbo Carts by Vapornine and i think the have a great "autonomy" but when i use a new cart i withdraw the cover and use a syringe to fill it... I wait about 30''.

Sometime at the end of the day i can fill a little more the cart...

I use it with my GGslim and my Bidiboost 6v ...

J.

 

[tripleh3lix]

I think it depends on the carts. I use Turbo Carts by Vapornine and i think the have a great "autonomy" but when i use a new cart i withdraw the cover and use a syringe to fill it... I wait about 30''.

Sometime at the end of the day i can fill a little more the cart...

I use it with my GGslim and my Bidiboost 6v ...

J.

Oh well I'm using the cartomizer. So not sure if anyones familiar with those or many peoples use those on here.

 

[stalnakerz]

Well I followed someone's advice on here cause I did not like the nicotine filter, washed it out "really good" and refilled it with the vanilla one I got with about 20-25 drops and spun it around got a few more in there. I let it sit about 45 minutes and started vaping. Seems to still be working great. I was wondering if this is the right method, or is that too excessive considering what the sites support told me with 2-3 drops and it should last about a pack or two of cigs? Also I was wondering how long should these cartomizers last with their life spans, also how long does the liquid last that you put in it? Now I'm not a crazily heavy smoker, I smoke about 10-12 cigs a day. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

Those must be HUGE drops for 2-3 to last a pack of cigs. The best thing to remember is that cartomizers are just like atomizers. If you overfill, you'll get some bad vapes, but won't damage the hardware. Just blow out any excess into a paper towel and you're back in business. However, if you vape it dry, you can damage the hardware and seriously shorten the life of the cartomizer or atomizer.

I personally use the condom method to refill and typically fill one of the covers to about halfway after vaping for a couple of hours. The cartos I have came with a short and long cover, I use the short for refilling. I then let it sit for a minute, blow out any excess and vape happily along.

 

[tripleh3lix]

Those must be HUGE drops for 2-3 to last a pack of cigs. The best thing to remember is that cartomizers are just like atomizers. If you overfill, you'll get some bad vapes, but won't damage the hardware. Just blow out any excess into a paper towel and you're back in business. However, if you vape it dry, you can damage the hardware and seriously shorten the life of the cartomizer or atomizer.

I personally use the condom method to refill and typically fill one of the covers to about halfway after vaping for a couple of hours. The cartos I have came with a short and long cover, I use the short for refilling. I then let it sit for a minute, blow out any excess and vape happily along.

Ok so im a huge newb here and haven't used an e-cig apart from the last 24 hours. I refilled it last night at about 9:30 last night, let it sit for 45 minutes, and haven't filled it. I used 20-25 drops as I saw a YouTube video for refilling cartomizers. A few of them mentioned 20-25 drops so I was making sure I was doing it right, at least I thought. I've ran the battery completely dead and i've been having a little beginner fun and testing this thing out so i've used a good 10-12 cigs worth of puffs.

 

[Buzzy]

Some users of 510 cartomizers report getting as much as 40 drops in an empty cartomizer using the Taryn spin method. I get about 30 drops in an empty cartomizer, but I don't use the Taryn spin.

At the end of a day, I've usually used 2 to 3 cartomizers (I used to be a 3/4 pack a day smoker). And when I top them off at night, I get between 15 and 20 drops in. I try not to vape one dry, because the filler can get scorched and carry a burned taste ever after.

The typical vaper here on the forum uses between 1 and 3 ml of liquid a day, but some use a bit more. Everyone is different. (And drop size is not consistent, while milliliters are.) But as I said, 2 to 3 cartos daily, and refills of 15 to 20 drops in each.

KR808D-1 cartomizers are not too different from the 510s in capacity, depending on the particular brand. Mega/turbo/premium cartos usually hold a bit more liquid.

 

[Buzzy]

But I still prefer dripping or cartridges for best flavor, just personally.

 

[tripleh3lix]

But I still prefer dripping or cartridges for best flavor, just personally.

I'm just getting confused cause someone from the chat said 20-25 was WAYY too much for refilling. The website for the cig I bought from says to refill when its empty 2-3 drops for the desired flavor. I went to the mall and the guy said to refill it the same way. So I am really lost, i am such a noob here lol.

 

[puffahauntis]

It really makes a huge difference from cartomizer type to cartomizer type. At the factory, the better cartomizers are filled via an automated filtered syringe system. The best way to refill a carto is definitely using a syringe. The filler type also makes a diffence in how many times it can be refilled. Some filler materials have filtering properties and some don't. It depends on the manufacturer. Ones without filtering properties which are most.. should only be refilled about twice before the quality of the vape is significantly decreased due to gunking of the element.

the seller should specify the e-liquid content amount the carto will hold. The refill should be less then the amount it comes with.

 

[fizil]

filter? how do you know if you have one?

 

[puffahauntis]

You would have to inquire directly with the manufacturer. It's not an actual filter, rather the design of the filler can have filtering quality of liquid passing through to the heating element. Most cartomizers are considered throw aways and that much attention is not paid. I do know of some cartomizer makers that do that though.

 

[bearscreek]

Neverlight, are you sure the web site and the guy at the mall were talking about cartomizers, or were they talking about cartridges? Those are two totally different things. (Sorry, but if you answer me, I won't see it until tomorrow.)

 

[ChuckB]

It does sound like you're getting information on both carts and cartomizers.

I use both carts and cartomizers and keep two cartomizers in rotation most of the time each with a different flavor. As far as overall lifetime of the cartomizers, I've had a couple that have lasted weeks, one that didn't make a second day. As long as you keep them moist, they should be able to be refilled a few times. I refill mine when ever the vapor or taste drops off and refill by removing the cap on the end then drip on to the filler until it starts looking wet. I can't really tell you how many drops as it varies a lot depending on how dry the are, which dropper I'm using at the time, and the thickness of the liquid, and I've never bothered counting.

I would take anything that the manufacturer's web site says about filling with a grain of salt. Most of them will exaggerate the number of cigarettes a cart or carto is equal to and will over simplify refilling or downright discourage refilling. You'll get much better info on that here. It's also kind of hard to equate how much you smoked to how much you'll vape. Smoking and vaping are different and there are a lot more variables with vaping. The type of device you use and the level of nic in your juice both will make a difference in how much you'll vape and how much juice you'll use.


It would also help you get better answers here if you'd list exactly what equipment you have. This is a very large group of people and someone here probably has the exact setup you have.

 

[BiancaMontgomery]

It would also help you get better answers here if you'd list exactly what equipment you have. This is a very large group of people and someone here probably has the exact setup you have.

Yes, you're going to have to tell us what you have before anyone can truly help you. There lots of different e-cigs and cartridges/cartomizers...what is your device??

 

[AmyB66]

First, the whole thing, trying to equate liquid to cigs etc.....throw it out the window and don't think about it again.

I don't know what you vape with so my help won't be all that good but this is how I like to use my cartos.

Tried lots of them. Prefer the soft top 510 cartos. I use a drip tip so the soft top hits the garbage immediately. Fresh carto, about one ml. I top off regularly. When, well, it depends. If I am sitting at my desk often, if I am running about I'll vape them down some. When I top off, I drip the liquid down the sides, not in the middle. get the filler good and soggy looking. If the top of the filler is starting to look dry and fluffy, even if you have vapor production, that usually is a good sign to top off. These 510 mega soft top cartomizers, I am partial to, so partial they are the only ones I use now. I can't say enough and that is because finally, I found my happy spot that keeps vaping just as easy and more satisfying than an analog ever will be. Everyone differs but when you find the right pv and atty/carto/juice combo it is wonderful, it is at that moment you quit thinking about cigs.

At first I tried to work my cartos forever, even went so far as to do the whole cleaning thing. Good if you like to vape a large variety of juice during the week. I stick to about two flavors a week and now just treat myself to new cartos once a week.

As far as comparing life to cigs. It is a good advertiser to get you in the door. Once you start to hit that middle point between vaping and smoking and key into all the tips and stuff that work for you as a vaper, then honestly, the way to get completely over the hump is to stop comparing. Its similar but so different than smoking. Never did I find something that tasted or inhaled exactly how my smokes did. Once I made it past the hard point then I just started to look for a device, a delivery method (like cartos) and juice that kept me happy.

How much juice? A lot of this depends on your vaping device and voltage. I use a mod. At 3.7 I don't burn up near the juice as I do at 6 volts. I want to say I go through about 3mls a day. I never did measure exactly and I do know some gets wasted when I over fill and need to blow out excess liquid. I also vape quite a bit, maybe more than I smoked but have reduced my nicotine levels down considerably so now it is more just hand to mouth habit than nicotine addiction.

Best thing I can recommend is to go read the reviews on devices and such. Do searches because alot of good ones end up pages and pages back. Then, go into the vendor forums and read too. Once you start posting in other sections, don't be afraid to go into the vendor forums and ask questions. All of them have loyal followers and will be happy to give you the tips and tricks for any particular item.

Saving money, another great advertiser to get you in the door. I spent a ton up front and did a lot of trial and error. It's all good though, I am done with smoking. Six months into the vaping and now I am at the turnaround to start recouping my dollars in regards to what I used to spend on smoking. (but there are many tempting new pv's juices etc that might prevent this! LOL)

Not sure how helpful this was. I remember how confusing the whole process was when I first began but a veteran steered me to a battery mod, the members who posted in the vendor section helped me with the whole batty/atty/carto process. That was over three months ago. That was when I smoked my last cig and never looked back.

 

[tripleh3lix]

There is a huge difference between a manufacturer and a vendor / e-tailer, retailer.

Most people will never speak to a real manufacturer. Even 80% of the chinese companies are trading companies. I am a supplier with a remarkable manufacturer who contract manufacturers for me so I guess I get to see things from the other side. Even still, all of the companies I supply may say this or that about cartomizers compared to cigarettes and how a carto equals x cigs. But, they all accurately list the amount of e-liquid the carts should hold.

First of all thanks for all the posts, specially Amy Secondly, I spoke to a kind person from HI last night, she said the cigarette that I orded from that site is basically a 510. The only thing different is the tip on the front which is a crystal looking light that lights up instead. I'm not sure if she was right but she was pretty sure it was a 510. She also said the battery was automatic. I'm definitely using cartomizers, and 1 e-liquid. As for equipment i'm a newbie here, so I would have a very hard time telling you that. As for the cartomizers I got, well they aren't empty ones. The E-Liquid I got was a very small bottle, probably 10ml's and the nicotine level is 12MG's. I'll try to post some pics so I can provide more detail to whoever is confused.

 

[puffahauntis]

If the 510 carto is full to the top with the filler inside its is going to take about 1.1ML of juice from the factory. If it is a smaller style one or not 100% full with the filler like 75%.. It's likely just under 1ML. Pre-filled ones will never go totally dry, so typically it should start pooling before you reach the dry fill capacity. Cliff notes version, i'd be surprised if the carto took much more then 10-12 drops to top off if it was a quality piece that was filled properly at the factory, after being used a good bit first. But to be honest, anything is possible. The way people fill cartomizers at home is not very scientific. And the way they are filled at the factory is actually ridiculously scientific, process at quality facilities. a 5 degree temperature variance can make a 150% difference in liquid volume at the time of initial filling.