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Hello all vapors!

I'm in a little bit of a predicament that I'm not sure the best action to take. I have been using for a while now, the EGO Twist variable voltage, using the standard dual coil clearomizer. I recently purchased a Nautilus Aspire adjustable air flow tank that I love. However, I have a few problems.

1) I get a dry vape with little to no flavor and the Aspire is new, I've only been using it for a couple of weeks.
2) I think I need to start making my own e-juice, because flavor just isn't there.
3) I have been thinking about purchasing the new Innokin iTaste VTR that comes with the IClear 30 clearomizer

So as this is a 3 part question, I guess I should start with #3. Is this a good mod for me to upgrade to, and is the IClear 30 clearomizer, a good tank system for me to spend money on?

I've been doing a lot of research to keep me from going back to smoking. I hope you pro's have some good answers for me. I like the fact that the iTaste uses a battery, instead of charging the unit.
 

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The VTR is a solid device. Tad on the heavy side, but I like that, some people don't. Got mine a couple weeks ago and am loving it so far.

The Aspire is a highly regarded tank by many. Have you cleaned the coils? How many have you tried, you could have a dud. The iClear30s is a descent tank, but most accounts will say the Aspire is superior. You'd be downgrading.
 
The VTR is a solid device. Tad on the heavy side, but I like that, some people don't. Got mine a couple weeks ago and am loving it so far.

The Aspire is a highly regarded tank by many. Have you cleaned the coils? How many have you tried, you could have a dud. The iClear30s is a descent tank, but most accounts will say the Aspire is superior. You'd be downgrading.

Would you maybe go with another device than the VTR? I don't mind it being heavy, it seems like that would make it a little more durable. Unfortunately the iClear 30 is what comes with the iTaste. I might see about cleaning the coils on the Aspire, just to see if I get any more flavor. Cleaning the coils is not something I'm not familiar with. I'll do a search on that, and give it a try.
 

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I'm still just a newbie myself, only at about 2 months, so I'm almost in the same boat as you. Still doing lots of reading and research.

I don't have an Aspire yet myself, but if you search you'll find lots of advice on cleaning the atty's. You can't dry-burn those, so a hot water bath or alcohol bath are the common things I've read. I elected to go for a few Protank 2's and Protank 2 Mini's as I go down the fun journey of looking for juices I like, since they're easy to clean, and easy to rebuild the coils. I'll probably pick up an Aspire soon, since I've heard VERY good things about the new BVC coils, but right now I'm more than happy with my Kanger tanks.

There are quite a few good variable voltage/variable wattage devices out there. Stick to those, and away from mechanical mods, until you're a little more seasoned. Mechanical mods are very dangerous if used improperly.

I started with a V5 Vamo as an upgrade to my Vision Spinners. The Vamo might cheap, but it's got everything I wanted out of an APV, and I have no complaints about it yet. I've read some complaints about the threading, but I haven't had any problems. I wanted to try a VW device before I made a larger investment in the higher-quality ones like the VTR, and the Vamo fits the bill perfectly. Use it next to my VTR regularly.

There are plenty of other good options out there, though:
  • MVP2 is a winner. Haven't read a single bad review on this thing. Only reason I got a VTR over this is the changeable battery
  • iTaste SVD
  • Joytech Evic is a solid device. But I have no desire to pay a premium so I can log my vaping habits and view graphs on my PC
  • The Provari is almost legendary. It's a quality device, with a proven reliability. 100% manufactured in the USA by ProVape themselves. I want to buy one myself, if for nothing else than to support the company that makes them. Take a look at this factory tour, it really is impressive:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXI64NKQro4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-VfJjdvUJc
 

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Learning beats spending all day long.

Learn all you can about anything you already have.
Learn enough to tweak/correct for best performance.

The Knowledge will make upgrading wisely simpler and more satisfying, knowing you have a grasp on the ins/outs of these devices.

You will spend less make better targeted purchases and get far more enjoyable use out of each purchase.

Now to your questions.

A few weeks is a good run for a coil head. May simply be time to replace it.
No you likely do not need to start DIY yet - not full scale anyway. Flavor should return with a clean head and/or better juice purchases.
Your Twist should do well for several more months and allow you time to acclimate and learn.

Best of luck!
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Would you maybe go with another device than the VTR? I don't mind it being heavy, it seems like that would make it a little more durable. Unfortunately the iClear 30 is what comes with the iTaste. I might see about cleaning the coils on the Aspire, just to see if I get any more flavor. Cleaning the coils is not something I'm not familiar with. I'll do a search on that, and give it a try.

Hi

My word of caution about the VTR is that "protection" ring that the glassomizer must fit into. It sounds like a good idea - but it also limits the kind (diameter) of devices you can fit in there as well. And it's not a guarantee either. The VTR is heavy, and if you drop it "right" that ring can bend out of place or break off even.

You may want to consider the Innokin MVP 2.0 as a first upgrade. Still a box format if you like that, less expensive at about half the price (101vape probably has the best pricing on the MVP) but without the restrictions for devices that can be attached to it as with the VTR.
 
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My word of caution about the VTR is that "protection" ring that the glassomizer must fit into. It sounds like a good idea - but it also limits the kind (diameter) of devices you can fit in there as well. And it's not a guarantee either. The VTR is heavy, and if you drop it "right" that ring can bend out of place or break off even.

To be fair, the VTR comes with an adapter to be able to mount tanks on top of the unit like the MVP2.

NOTE: The Protank2 fits without the adapter, this is just to demonstrate.

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+ 1 for the iTaste MVP-2. The internal rechargeable battery can last up to 3 days on a charge (2800mah battery). You can use the charger to use the MVP as a pass thru battery to save even more battery life. Comes with a beauty ring adaptor for larger size tanks and 1 or 2 iClear clearomizers in the kit. Built-in voltage and ohm meter. Not as heavy and more pocket-friendly than the VTR.

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Hi

My word of caution about the VTR is that "protection" ring that the glassomizer must fit into. It sounds like a good idea - but it also limits the kind (diameter) of devices you can fit in there as well. And it's not a guarantee either. The VTR is heavy, and if you drop it "right" that ring can bend out of place or break off even.

You may want to consider the Innokin MVP 2.0 as a first upgrade. Still a box format if you like that, less expensive at about half the price (101vape probably has the best pricing on the MVP) but without the restrictions for devices that can be attached to it as with the VTR.

I watched a couple of video's on the Innokin MVP 2.0 and the only thing I don't like about it. One is that it is chargeable, and I would much rather have a unit that uses a battery. The only other thing is that it has some limits on voltage. I may have to search for a different unit than the VTR, but I really want one that uses a battery, as it is easier to switch batteries than to wait for a unit to charge up.

crxess said:
A few weeks is a good run for a coil head. May simply be time to replace it.
No you likely do not need to start DIY yet - not full scale anyway. Flavor should return with a clean head and/or better juice purchases.
Your Twist should do well for several more months and allow you time to acclimate and learn.

Thank you for the advice. As far as juice purchases go, I've purchased from several places, and have a ton of juice on hand. I will try to clean the coils and or change them if that doesn't work. Maybe I will be able to get a little flavor back into my vape.

@ Stiiinger
I'm going to look a little closer at that ProVari, and see if I can find some reviews on it. Looks like a nice device. Thank you for the suggestion of that unit. I'll let you know if I decide to go with it.
 
+ 1 for the iTaste MVP-2. The internal rechargeable battery can last up to 3 days on a charge (2800mah battery). You can use the charger to use the MVP as a pass thru battery to save even more battery life. Comes with a beauty ring adaptor for larger size tanks and 1 or 2 iClear clearomizers in the kit. Built-in voltage and ohm meter. Not as heavy and more pocket-friendly than the VTR.

Wow, maybe I spoke to soon about the internal battery. I'm use to 8-10 hours, which really bites!
 

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I watched a couple of video's on the Innokin MVP 2.0 and the only thing I don't like about it. One is that it is chargeable, and I would much rather have a unit that uses a battery. The only other thing is that it has some limits on voltage. I may have to search for a different unit than the VTR, but I really want one that uses a battery, as it is easier to switch batteries than to wait for a unit to charge up.
You can use the MVP while it is charging. That's what the "pass thru" function is.

I'm going to look a little closer at that ProVari, and see if I can find some reviews on it. Looks like a nice device. Thank you for the suggestion of that unit. I'll let you know if I decide to go with it.
You'll be hardpressed to find a more dependable, reliable, and durable regulated mod than a Provari. USA made. Incredible workmanship. Great warranty. The ability to get it fixed (in the unlikely event it should need it) after the warranty has expired -- Provape supports their product for life. It has set the gold standard for VV devices for the last four years.

Why Provari?

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... I will try to clean the coils and or change them if that doesn't work. ...

Don't bother cleaning it, replace it, some new atomizer coils are just problematic. Get some BVC coils for the Nautilus if yours did not come with them!

You need to get your tank working properly. No battery/mod of any kind will make anything better if you don't have an atomizer that works properly.

Go to local vape shop for help if your not making headway.
 

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I watched a couple of video's on the Innokin MVP 2.0 and the only thing I don't like about it. One is that it is chargeable, and I would much rather have a unit that uses a battery. The only other thing is that it has some limits on voltage. I may have to search for a different unit than the VTR, but I really want one that uses a battery, as it is easier to switch batteries than to wait for a unit to charge up.

You do know the MVP can even be used while it's charging? You will be tethered to the USB cord in passthrough mode while charging - but it won't leave you hanging with no vape at all.

What are your concerns about voltage limits? Unless you jump waaay up in price most of these devices in this class - including the Provari - are going to have similar voltage/wattage limits.
 

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Hello all vapors!

I'm in a little bit of a predicament that I'm not sure the best action to take. I have been using for a while now, the EGO Twist variable voltage, using the standard dual coil clearomizer. I recently purchased a Nautilus Aspire adjustable air flow tank that I love. However, I have a few problems.

1) I get a dry vape with little to no flavor and the Aspire is new, I've only been using it for a couple of weeks.
2) I think I need to start making my own e-juice, because flavor just isn't there.
3) I have been thinking about purchasing the new Innokin iTaste VTR that comes with the IClear 30 clearomizer

So as this is a 3 part question, I guess I should start with #3. Is this a good mod for me to upgrade to, and is the IClear 30 clearomizer, a good tank system for me to spend money on?

I've been doing a lot of research to keep me from going back to smoking. I hope you pro's have some good answers for me. I like the fact that the iTaste uses a battery, instead of charging the unit.


1) I get a dry vape with little to no flavor and the Aspire is new, I've only been using it for a couple of weeks.

It can take time even for an experienced vaper to become 'friends' with new equipment. It takes LONGER for someone just starting out. Dry hits are a common problem, and it may have something to do with the equipment, but likely you will have some trouble with any equipment until you develop a good technique and understanding of use. Give yourself time to become used to the way things work before you run though lots of money trying to find a magic solution that really just requires work. Aspire is a good brand. Not that it is fool proof, and not that there aren't some 'bad' ones out there. But don't rush to assume it is the problem.


2) I think I need to start making my own e-juice, because flavor just isn't there.

DIY is FUN... DIY saves money.... DIY can't jump start your tastebuds that are just beginning to recover from smoking. That takes time no matter how you get your e-juice.

3) I have been thinking about purchasing the new Innokin iTaste VTR that comes with the IClear 30 clearomizer

Good units, but BEWARE... starting out you have to adjust to the learning curve of a brand new style of inhaling nicotiene. The more advanced your equipment, the steaper that learning curve will be.
 

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You guys got me sold on the Provari. Great reviews, and video's. Looks like that is the best option for me.


You can't get much better in a VV/VW... but you will really have to exert your patience quotient to allow yourself to learn the best ways to use the ProVari with its many options. It is an awesome machine, but you aren't going to be just turning a little knob at the base like you do your ego.
 
You can't get much better in a VV/VW... but you will really have to exert your patience quotient to allow yourself to learn the best ways to use the ProVari with its many options. It is an awesome machine, but you aren't going to be just turning a little knob at the base like you do your ego.

I do see that I will have a few things to learn and understand with the use of it that I'm not accustomed to, but if I am going to make a purchase I would like to get the best available. It appears that ProVari has a new version that will be released very soon. I saw an offer on the site for the version 3. I will probably wait a short while until it is available.

ClintS said:
Don't bother cleaning it, replace it, some new atomizer coils are just problematic. Get some BVC coils for the Nautilus if yours did not come with them!

You need to get your tank working properly. No battery/mod of any kind will make anything better if you don't have an atomizer that works properly.

Go to local vape shop for help if your not making headway.

Thank you for that suggestion. I went by the vape shop today, They have some sample e-juices set out for testing, and I noticed the brand of e-juice I purchased did not have the amount of smell, that others did. Because I purchase from them all the time the owner allowed me to try a different brand, and I was immediately shocked to find that it had flavor that the brand of e-juice I was using did not have.

TamiP said:
DIY is FUN... DIY saves money.... DIY can't jump start your tastebuds that are just beginning to recover from smoking. That takes time no matter how you get your e-juice.

Thanks for the suggestion on DIY. After the incident of not having flavor in my RY4 Asian, Pipe, and 555 (a little variety of some flavors I use) I've done some research and am about to purchase everything I need to get started making my own e-juice. Found some great recopies to try out as well, and I'm going to start with 10ml, in case I need to make adjustments to the flavor.
 
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