Interesting, I will have to consider that. So I guess the whole Single Use Only thing is not required. Awesome!
A few questions from a DIY beginner
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Yes they are, they have markings, but I haven't exactly nailed down what each line is equal to (only glanced at them quickly)
When you say mix up a batch, how large of a batch do you mix up at a given time?
And how does that work with mixing in flavor? For example, let's say I am using EJMU and I have a recipe, how does my pre-made batch correlate into that? I guess it probably won't be too much extra math, being that the PG/VG/Nic is already created, and most FL uses PG, but what about sizes? Doesn't that affect how much PG-to-VG-to-Nic ratio you put in? Am I even making sense???
You know, I actually think I have a can of Clear Coat somewheres in my garage....hmm, Imma go look into this! Awesome idea! +2
If you were using them to inject stuff into a living organism, then you'd only want to use once. For measuring stuff, it's fine to reuse!
I use B&D luer 1ml syringes for my flavoring. I got a bag full of them many years ago. They are marked in 0.02ml increments and are slim enough to fit inside nearly all flavoring bottles so I don't need needles.
When I'm done with a flavoring I pop the syringe apart and throw the parts in a cup of water.
After I clean them off and after they dry, I roll the rubber plunger in some PG before I reassemble them.
At the rate I use these, the bag of syringes I bought will last me another 6 years.
When I'm done with a flavoring I pop the syringe apart and throw the parts in a cup of water.
After I clean them off and after they dry, I roll the rubber plunger in some PG before I reassemble them.
At the rate I use these, the bag of syringes I bought will last me another 6 years.
When you say mix up a batch, how large of a batch do you mix up at a given time?
And how does that work with mixing in flavor? For example, let's say I am using EJMU and I have a recipe, how does my pre-made batch correlate into that? I guess it probably won't be too much extra math, being that the PG/VG/Nic is already created, and most FL uses PG, but what about sizes? Doesn't that affect how much PG-to-VG-to-Nic ratio you put in? Am I even making sense???
I generally have been mixing up quarts at a time 1 at 50/50 PG/VG another at 70/30 PG/VG and a 30/70 PG/VG for a throat hit sensitive friend, I mix the PG/VG together and then add the Nicotine and shake the bottle up really well, when I get ready to use it I give it another good shake to remix it and then just suck it up in a syringe.
remember a higher VG will give bigger clouds but can clog wicks and coils.
and PG is a better flavor carrier.
I would just start out @ a 50/50 mix. then if you dont have a problem with PG up your mix to a 70/30.
wheather you are making 5ml or 500ml the recipie %'s will be the same.]
only your choice of ratio is all that matters. for a full throat hit (TH) mix PG/VG at 80/20 for minimum TH mix 20/80 PG/VG add your nicotine accordingly.
remember that when you add flavor its almost always 100%PG (minus the actual flavor) many are alcohol based as well.
if your flavoring is PG and you used 10% flavoring in your mix and your base liquid is, say for example 50/50 PG/VG your end result will be 60/40
If you made your base liquid a 50/50 @18% nicotine level then your end Nic level result would be -10%
Ex 10ml 50/50 @ 18% nic with 10% flavoringwould end up approx. 60/40 OPG/VG w/a nic content of approx. 16.2%
18-1.8 = 16.2 1.8 being 10% of 18
theres not a big difference in nic level when diluting @ 10% flavoring so there is no need to sweat a few -mg of nic.
just make a base liquid w/a little higher nic level that what you're shooting for.
start slow and you can tweek the math later on if you feel you need to.
Hope that helps, hope I didnt confuse you more.
(any other DIY'ers see any flaws in my post, doin it on the fly!
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I use eJuice Me Up all the time to make my liquid. It seems to work just fine. The issue may be that you are using very high strength NIC to make such a small qty. I would get some larger beakers and make a recipe for 250 ml or so. Do everything but add the flavor. This will give you a large volume of pre-mixed base that you can now pour the required qty into your 3ml batch and add the small amt of flavor for that 1 batch. When you are using beakers and needles to mix and transfer, you are going to have some loss. I find that to make 250ml, I have to make 270ml because of the transfer from container to container.
I would highly dissuade anyone from using any type of paint to seal the numbers of a syringe. Instead of hot water, use some drinking alcohol and cold water.
Paint contains Methyl Ethyl Ketone, a chemical that can cause brain and nervous system damage. Under normal circumstances, when diffusing through the air, it takes a long time to cause health problems. However, if any rubs off or is diluted by the nic or another liquid, it will be atomized at concentrated amounts during inhalation.
Paint contains Methyl Ethyl Ketone, a chemical that can cause brain and nervous system damage. Under normal circumstances, when diffusing through the air, it takes a long time to cause health problems. However, if any rubs off or is diluted by the nic or another liquid, it will be atomized at concentrated amounts during inhalation.
When there are other options, like cleaning with alcohol instead of hot water, I'm just not willing to take a chance. You may be correct, but there are other chemicals in paint that may also come off. I'll have to look into this more. The only reason I brought it up was because I, too, was going to do this until my stinking chemist SO advised me against it.
My husband is a chemist also! I googled to be sure that it evaporates, and then I asked him when he got up and he agreed. Do what you feel is safe though. The way I do DIY, the outside of the syringe doesn't really come into contact with the liquid, and the liquid is in the syringe for such a short time anyway. I feel completely comfortable with it, but that's just me. Many nail polishes have toluene and other solvents, and the adhesive on tape also contains 'chemicals'. Then again, everything contains chemicals. LOL.
I'm not getting your point about cleaning with alcohol rather than hot water. Why do you believe that is safer/better? I do know that some people prefer not to have alcohol around for various reasons, it is my opinion that water is sufficient to clean our supplies in most cases. Additionally, alcohol does tend to degrade the rubber in syringe plungers over time.
I'm not getting your point about cleaning with alcohol rather than hot water. Why do you believe that is safer/better? I do know that some people prefer not to have alcohol around for various reasons, it is my opinion that water is sufficient to clean our supplies in most cases. Additionally, alcohol does tend to degrade the rubber in syringe plungers over time.
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I found certain flavors, like ap and Virginia, still left a residual smell when I solely used hot water. My vet suggested taking a knife and making little marks at each measurement, but my laziness prevented me from doing this.
I give them a quick alcohol rinse since it doesn't take off the gradations and then a little cold water shower. After, I tuck them in and sing a lullaby. I find the singing gives them more motivation to continue working hard for me.
With all this info, I may start marking them with knives. I tried it on one, and it's very simple.
I do try to keep the actual syringe out of the liquid, but it still happens every so often. Is there nothing to be concerned about concerning hot water deteriorating the paint? I know when we stripped some polyurethane, we used a heat gun. Granted, the heat gun is far hotter, but regular paint isn't that indestructible.
I don't know, I don't get the water all that hot, . I mean, a heat gun level of heat would probably be enough to melt the syringe.
I like the knife idea. Some of my larger syringes have the numbers embossed into them, which is nice.
Ethanol can definitely help to remove left over flavor scents. I do sometimes rinse the smaller syringes with vodka, but I've noticed that even if the syringe carries a little bit of scent, it doesn't seem to transfer to the new liquid, so I usually don't worry about it too much. I don't use very strong flavors that much though. If I did use menthol or something that tends to stick, I'd probably dedicate a syringe to only that flavor.
I probably use a measuring device that almost nobody else here uses for tiny amounts of flavors. I use a variable volume micropipettor that allows me to measure 5-200 microliters accurately, which comes in handy for making small trial batches. It has plastic tips that fit onto the end. For those, I rinse with water and then throw them in a cup of vodka. That's mostly for drying purposes though. They are small, and the ethanol helps the water evaporate from the inside more quickly.
. I mean, a heat gun level of heat would probably be enough to melt the syringe.I like the knife idea. Some of my larger syringes have the numbers embossed into them, which is nice.
Ethanol can definitely help to remove left over flavor scents. I do sometimes rinse the smaller syringes with vodka, but I've noticed that even if the syringe carries a little bit of scent, it doesn't seem to transfer to the new liquid, so I usually don't worry about it too much. I don't use very strong flavors that much though. If I did use menthol or something that tends to stick, I'd probably dedicate a syringe to only that flavor.
I probably use a measuring device that almost nobody else here uses for tiny amounts of flavors. I use a variable volume micropipettor that allows me to measure 5-200 microliters accurately, which comes in handy for making small trial batches. It has plastic tips that fit onto the end. For those, I rinse with water and then throw them in a cup of vodka. That's mostly for drying purposes though. They are small, and the ethanol helps the water evaporate from the inside more quickly.
Wish husband worked at a private company and not a poor university. Otherwise, I'd have him bring one home. Jk
Lol, yeah. I actually have a set of fixed volume ones that I got from a university lab when the prof retired. A bunch of items were up for grabs. I got those and a very cool cleared and stained monkey fetus in a jar. They aren't very useful for DIY, but they look neat. I've been loaned the ones I'm using for DIY, but I'm thinking about buying some cheap ones when these are called back in.
I imagine the monkey fetus could prove useful if it's allowed to watch the diy operation. I've heard that ancient Mesopotamians found them a source of positive influence on all things diy.
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