A new Grand tip!(maybe not)

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RedAlert

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REMOVE YOUR BATTERY BEFORE DOING ANY TESTING!

I read a post from a few days ago about the Grand having some resistance in it's body(I think the person said .5 ohms). I figured it would be about right, as aluminum is not the best conductor. So I was bored and decided to do my own experiment. Having disassembled both my Grands before, I wasnt worried about doing this, but a new owner might want to ask Rob before messing around. First thing I did was measure the resistance of my oldest Grand(5+ months). With the one lead on the threads of the atty connection, and the other on the battery spring, I got .5 ohms, just like the other member found. Now let the experiment begin.....
First, I cleaned both the atty connecter and the spring with a qtip soaked in some 91% iso alc. Remeasured the resistance, still got the .5ohms
Next, I removed the spring and cleaned under it(I have never done that even when I had them apart. If you've ever done this, you'll see that the powdercoat/anodizing goes under the spring, and the only place for it to conduct is through the little screw that holds the spring in. I cleaned the screw really well to and reassembled the Grand. Remeasured the resistance and got .4 ohms, an improvement, but no where near noticeable in vaping.
Then I took the spring back out, cleaned the threas for the screw, then put a dab of Noalox right into the screw hole and reattached the spring. Remeasured the resistance, and now I only got .2 ohms!
That's a .3 ohm improvement, which would most likely be noticeable to most of us.
I tried it out with a well used LR306, and it does seem to hit better than before the cleaning, unless my mind it just tricking me.
I wouldnt think this is necessary to do weekly like you should do on the switch contact, but monthly couldnt hurt.
 
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Nice job, RedAlert....I may try that experiment too...but on my mini. Of course...I do need to remind folks that when doing this....DO NOT LEAVE THE BATTERY IN FOR THIS TEST!!!...just to be on the safe side. :)

I'll edit my post to include this! DO NOT LEAVE THE BATTERY IN WHILE DOING THE TESTING
 

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Hey RedAlert... Yes.. That was me that "discovered" the resistance of the Grand. Glad you got the same result... My meter is then accurate !.. I am definitely going to try this... What about scratching up the area under the spring ? to get a direct contact ? In my view, 0.5 Ohm is a lot... I was also thinking of just using a wire from the spring to the atty connector just to see if I can get rid of the 0.5 ohms all together ! so basically make it an Aluminum Woodville !

REMOVE YOUR BATTERY BEFORE DOING ANY TESTING!

I read a post from a few days ago about the Grand having some resistance in it's body(I think the person said .5 ohms). I figured it would be about right, as aluminum is not the best conductor. So I was bored and decided to do my own experiment. Having disassembled both my Grands before, I wasnt worried about doing this, but a new owner might want to ask Rob before messing around. First thing I did was measure the resistance of my oldest Grand(5+ months). With the one lead on the threads of the atty connection, and the other on the battery spring, I got .5 ohms, just like the other member found. Now let the experiment begin.....
First, I cleaned both the atty connecter and the spring with a qtip soaked in some 91% iso alc. Remeasured the resistance, still got the .5ohms
Next, I removed the spring and cleaned under it(I have never done that even when I had them apart. If you've ever done this, you'll see that the powdercoat/anodizing goes under the spring, and the only place for it to conduct is through the little screw that holds the spring in. I cleaned the screw really well to and reassembled the Grand. Remeasured the resistance and got .4 ohms, an improvement, but no where near noticeable in vaping.
Then I took the spring back out, cleaned the threas for the screw, then put a dab of Noalox right into the screw hole and reattached the spring. Remeasured the resistance, and now I only got .2 ohms!
That's a .3 ohm improvement, which would most likely be noticeable to most of us.
I tried it out with a well used LR306, and it does seem to hit better than before the cleaning, unless my mind it just tricking me.
I wouldnt think this is necessary to do weekly like you should do on the switch contact, but monthly couldnt hurt.
 

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Hey RedAlert... Yes.. That was me that "discovered" the resistance of the Grand. Glad you got the same result... My meter is then accurate !.. I am definitely going to try this... What about scratching up the area under the spring ? to get a direct contact ? In my view, 0.5 Ohm is a lot... I was also thinking of just using a wire from the spring to the atty connector just to see if I can get rid of the 0.5 ohms all together ! so basically make it an Aluminum Woodville !

I'm sure removing/sanding down the color agent would get great results, but I am also the type that wants my mods to look as good as they vape. I'd say that as long as the spring screw and it's threads are really clean and conducting well, the increased contact area under the spring would not yield too much more of a benefit, at least not measurable enough to be worth while
 

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Ok what are we supposed to be doing to the switch?

If you mean to ask how to measure the resistance between the firing pin and the atty connector, you place one lead on the firing pin and the other on the center hole at the bottom of the atty connector. Again, your batteries should be no where near your mod while using your multimeter on your mod.
 

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If you mean to ask how to measure the resistance between the firing pin and the atty connector, you place one lead on the firing pin and the other on the center hole at the bottom of the atty connector. Again, your batteries should be no where near your mod while using your multimeter on your mod.

UMMM.. No. That will yield 0 Ohms... Mudflap did not get a magic Grand ! You need to test it between the spring at the bottom of the Batter connector (WITHOUT A BATTERY IN THERE) and the side of the brass catch cup..
 

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UMMM.. No. That will yield 0 Ohms... Mudflap did not get a magic Grand ! You need to test it between the spring at the bottom of the Batter connector (WITHOUT A BATTERY IN THERE) and the side of the brass catch cup..

If you read and comprehend what I posted, you would see that I did just that.
 
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