A Suggestion for Noobs from a Noob

[Inedia]

Yeah it does kind of look like a sex toy, but hey, if it's good quality and let's you vape to your hearts content, then I don't see a problem with that. I saw the custom saber touch models on YouTube and I would really like to get one, but not sure if I can where I am, because I don't think they ship to NZ. The saber touch looks a bit like a sex toy as well, or... use your imagination lol.

 

[Bluprints]

I think the idea of learning curve is a bit over the top here. It took me about 2 weeks to discover that carts felt like vaping air and cartos tasted great. Took me even less to figure out how to charge a flashlight battery and put it in the stainless steel device, attach a carto, push the little red button and vape at the default 4v. If I never looked at the lcd screen I'd still have a better vaping experience than what I started with, which was still pretty good.

I am not technical enough to build anything nor do I have the time to research it and would rather pay the price to have a well built product that works every time. I haven't had this pv for more than a few days but its the way it feels... built well. I don't see 230 bucks a lot compared to what the free trial site wanted to charge me if I kept their ecig or if I just continued to smoke cigs, which in Wyoming are much less expensive than in NJ where I moved here from. I think that some of these better ecigs should be recommended to new vapers but along with a less cost piece as well. If you want the BEST go with this.. if its above your price range try this. A lot of posts people say I want great TH, great taste and great vapor... as long as they wanna pay for it some of these mods are pretty damn simple and give them all of this.

At the time I was lurking these forums, Riva was highly recommended from LF. If someone mentioned the Provari or Infinity or whatever I might have just took the leap ahead... let's be honest 230 bucks isn't really that much compared to what some spend on their cars, xbox's, ps3's, computers, or even their smokes. Its not like you have to calibrate this thing or be a programmer to use it. It was about as hard to use as my Riva.

EDIT: Regardless, I'm real glad to have found this forum. It helped me quit smoking those damn cancer sticks no matter what I was using.

 

[Dark Jester]

I often wonder about this when recommending things to new vapers. You are probably somewhat unique in appreciating a ProVari from the get go.

For me I think having a cigarette look-a-like was a necessary part of the process--my current REO would have been too different than cigarettes initially. Getting new PVs was also part of the reward system of vaping and moving on up to the good stuff.

I wish I would have found ECF and V4L first rather than the ripoff V2cigs because I wasted a lot of money, but the good part was I did find ecigs and gave up cigarettes completely.

I can see your point there. An analog look-alike does have it's place in helping smokers get more comfortable with the idea of vaping. I did get the V2 kit before I learned about the Provari, and didn't cancel my order. V2 kit actually arrived about 3 hours ago and I have it at work with me now. No analog cravings since I opened the box..

I'll be keeping the V2 products around as backups or maybe just for at work. Dunno. Still looking forward to the ProVari though.

 

[Dagar]

I am low tech, the hubster is hi tech. So far I am very happy vaping away on an 808, it is just like my 120 cigs but the flavor is MUCH better. If simple works best for you and moves you from analog to vaper smoothly then do it. All the rest of the techie stuff can come later. And wow I don't have to go outside anymore to get a puff of nicotine *happy dancing* cause it really sucked in the winter with the snow and the summer with the heat.

 

[madjack]

...for newbie newbs I think the Rivas are the place to start...especially if you have no idea if it will work for you or where to start...I am biased since I bought 4Rivas for 3 of us(1 for spares) from LF at 30bux/per and could not be happier with them...now that I have used 'em...and learned a BUNCH more, I would like to have a Roughstak and will probably be building a wooden box mod in the future...BUT, at the time, I thought it much more important to get a PV in my hands that was simple and just worked... and the Rivas did exactly that..........
madjack

 

[El-ahrairah]

I, also, wouldn't necessarily recommend a Provari to a new vaper; mainly because telling someone that the ONLY way to get a satisfactory vape is through a high-end mod is a sure-fire way to put them off of the idea of vaping.

If I tell someone that unless they plop down $210 JUST for the device, batteries and charger and they would have to pay extra for atties/cartos and juice they would not have a good vaping experience, I expect they would laugh in my face as they lit another cigarette.

 

[nkr501]

I personally as a beginner myself would rather spend $200 on a span of PVs rather than just one that I may or may not like. I like my 808 as a matter of fact, but I wouldn't stray from the idea of getting a mod later after I get fell of what flavors I like and get a better feel and understanding of vaping.
Its not like smoking where you can just go grab a pack and go, at least not for me. I want to experiment and get my vibe going.

 

[wv2win]

I had a different experience. About a year ago I tried one of the crappy cigarette look-alike products heavily marketed on the net. Didn't work, completely unsatisfying. Back to analogs I went, my conclusion being e cigarettes are not an effective smoking cessation strategy. Had I known then about mods and the far superior products available even then, I would have saved a year of smoking.

Thank you for posting this comment!!!!!! I know more people who bought either an inferior model or one that had a small battery and decided vaping is a scam or too much of a hassle due to the weak battery and just went back to smoking. Yet there are those on this forum who thinks no one should ever consider a 5 volt or variable volt PV until they have vaped for a year. And even then, they think that something is wrong with them because they are fine with the so-called "slim" battery models and do not think anyone should need more. And these same people have never vaped anything more substantial than an eGo, if that. Their condescending posts gets real old.

But as I said earlier, I recommend E-Powers/Rivas regularly to new people so they can get a feel for vaping first before spending a larger amount of money. But I see nothing wrong with someone getting a better model, such as the Darwin or Provari, whether is be their first or second model.

 

[madjack]

I find it much the opposite, I find it very disingenuous to TELL folks, who have no idea what's what, they immediately need to get a 100-300 dollar mod and they don't even know if(we know they will) this is for them...it is even worse if, accurate pricing is not given...even though I have not used one, I know box mods, e-powers, reos, provaris, darwins and all the rest are good PVs but most are looking for a close to ciggie looking device and getting them something better is what helping newbies is all about to me...the eGo/Rivas, allow a newbie, to experiment around with most all of the available accessories, to learn, what they might like as they move up the vaping ladder...at this point in my 6weeks of vaping experience, of which 4 are vaping and an additional 2 trying to sort all the conflicting info in useable data, I am happy with my choice of and further, recommending to others a Riva type device...now, that I have experienced vaping and some of the accessories out there, I am wanting to build a syringe tank mod, use my woodworking skills to turn out a nice BlackWalnut box mod and get a Roughstak for knocking around...but I would never had gotten to this point with out those Rivas to start with.......imjusayin my 2cents worth.............
madjack

p.s. as long as we as a group, can keep any newb from making the "free trial offer" or "over priced mall kiosk" mistake, we have done our job, regardless of what advice we give...it's all good(if confusing)...........mj

 

[joc3721]

It's clear different approaches for how to start vaping work differently for different people. I would tell a noob who's really addicted to analogs and wants to stop to get the best, most expensive HV or VV mod they could. Why? The miracle of PV's is how effective they are as a smoking cessation method. Nothing else comes close. PV's can best replicate the smoking experience, e.g. the hit, the nicotine, the oral thing, the flavor, the whole experience. As a pretty heavy smoker for 20+ years, low powered/low cost PV's just didn't do it. Way too wimpy for me as a heavy smoker. I (and I expect others) needed a full bodied, high volt, full-flavor hit from an analog substitute before I could really see a PV as a viable alternative to smoking. Ultimately, a high end PV is cheap compared to a lifetime of smoking. I am pretty much smoke free after two months with a provari. I think people maximize their chances of quitting analogs and really enjoying vaping by starting with a device that can really deliver the goods.

 

[Dudeonline]

Just to put things in perspective, a lot of people on this forum at one point (Before finding ECF) in time thought it a wise investment to spend upwards of $150 on an overpriced mall-kit. Me being one of them. Not to say that I actually did, but the point that I'm trying to make is, if you would think about spending the dosh on this wonderful "new" alternative to smoking, plonking down a bit more money on an actual quality item would be worth it IMO.

I have an eGo right now, and I love it, but I know at one point I will need to broaden my horizons, and I'm thinking a Box-mod will be my next purchase, and maybe the provari, or equivalent in about a year or so.

 

[TitanRich]

Being newish to this myself, I couldn't in good conscience recommend someone that has never vaped before to throw down the loot for a ProVari. They might not like it and be out that cash. I recommend the eGo types because the can be a little easier to get used to.

That being said, the men in the suits will have to pry my ProVari and my Reos from my cold lifeless hands.