About to buy a SB. A few questions...

[Nem2k]

So Im about to purchase a silver bullet and have some questions, mostly about carto types for the SB (Im new to battery mods)

- I heard the SB comes in 2 lengths, I have certainly seen some that are shorter than others. What are the differences? Are they both still sold?

- I see a thing called silver vein. What is that? I assume its a finish, what does it look like?

- I believe a hot spring is the thing that goes at the bottom of the tube to keep spring tension on the battery? Do I need to purchase one? Or does the SB come with the newest one that offers the most vapor?

Carto questions:

So I'm wanting to do 3.7v vaping, and likely to try out 6v vaping as well. I do not want an atty. I want cartos and I don't want to have to drip (wont be using a drip tip).

- What is the best type of carto to use with a SB at both voltages? I need one that won't burn out quickly, offers good flavour, but also as importantly, one that is a popular type as I need to be able to make regular purchases of them in canada

- are cartos a popular choice over attys for the SB? I would prefer cartos due to less hassle but I don't know if they work as well at higher voltages?

- Is it possible to get away with no dripping on the SB at 6v? Or do I need to drip constantly to keep the thing wet? I would ideally want to avoid any dripping until I refill if I can get away with it?

- Where can I find a charger that can charge both 3.7v and 3v batteries in canada?

- I've never tried vaping at anything near 6v so if I do vape constantly at 6v with cartos and no drip tip, would the carto get insanely how? Will I have to put it down once a while to let it cool off? Does a drip tip prevent this?

- what are LR, HV, and Ultra cartos? which do I need? whats the difference between them?

Sorry for all the questions, but it has been hard trying to find answers using the search function given I'm still new to this whole big battery thing and don't understand most of the discussion thats going on in other threads!

thanks in advance

 

[Sewknitty]

Hi, Nem.

I'm relatively new to the SB but I think I can answer some of your questions. Someone more experienced, I'm sure, will be along soon to give you more credible advice. Great questions!

So Im about to purchase a silver bullet and have some questions, mostly about carto types for the SB (Im new to battery mods)

- I heard the SB comes in 2 lengths, I have certainly seen some that are shorter than others. What are the differences? Are they both still sold?

Didn't see that when I ordered but have heard mention of an extension sleeve for....something. Since you're going to be vaping at 3.7 I don't think this will be a concern for you.

- I see a thing called silver vein. What is that? I assume its a finish, what does it look like?

Sorry, can't help with this.

- I believe a hot spring is the thing that goes at the bottom of the tube to keep spring tension on the battery? Do I need to purchase one? Or does the SB come with the newest one that offers the most vapor?

The hot spring comes standard in the new Silver Bullet. Its copper and, in addition to keeping the batteries firmly in place, is supposed to reduce resistance and thus add a little oomph (and warmth).

Carto questions:

So I'm wanting to do 3.7v vaping, and likely to try out 6v vaping as well. I do not want an atty. I want cartos and I don't want to have to drip (wont be using a drip tip).

You can use cartos that you fill yourself or cartos that are pre-filled. Some prefer the way a drip tip feels and use them even if they don't drip.

Don't be afraid of an atty. Get one and experiment at 3.7 volts to see if it's all that it's touted to be. Blow through the end opposite the battery threading to blow out any primer, drop in 5 drops of what you want to vape and let it sit for at least five minutes. Pop on a drip tip, fire up the device and have a taste. If it tastes like hot metal that only means the atty hasn't broken in yet. Drop in a couple more drops and try again. Might be for you and might be much ado about not much.

- What is the best type of carto to use with a SB at both voltages? I need one that won't burn out quickly, offers good flavour, but also as importantly, one that is a popular type as I need to be able to make regular purchases of them in canada

Altsmoke sells the Yeti cartomizers which can be purchased as blanks. I have the best results with them if I blow out the primer first. Primer is the one thing that can turn a convenience into a bad experience, btw. Do this by removing the soft end cap and any inner ring, running hot water through the carto and blowing it out. Let these dry overnight before using them or you'll be vaping water.

- are cartos a popular choice over attys for the SB? I would prefer cartos due to less hassle but I don't know if they work as well at higher voltages?

SR Cartos (3.0 ohm or higher) and 6 volts are a great combination. You get the warm vapor and great flavor without the hassle of dripping. Be aware that at this heat flavors will either expand (a good thing) or be 'cooked' (not so good thing). Apple, for instance, is refreshing at 3.7 but tastes cooked at 6 volts.

- Is it possible to get away with no dripping on the SB at 6v? Or do I need to drip constantly to keep the thing wet? I would ideally want to avoid any dripping until I refill if I can get away with it?

Absolutely, with cartos. When I use HV attys I don't have to drip more frequently than I do at 3.7.

- Where can I find a charger that can charge both 3.7v and 3v batteries in canada?

Sorry, can't help with this.

- I've never tried vaping at anything near 6v so if I do vape constantly at 6v with cartos and no drip tip, would the carto get insanely how? Will I have to put it down once a while to let it cool off? Does a drip tip prevent this?

Oh yeah, it's gonna get hot. Delrin or a pawn style drip tip will take care of that though. Don't use metal as it'll just conduct that heat right to your lips. Same with a LR atty or carto, imo.

- what are LR, HV, and Ultra cartos? which do I need? whats the difference between them?

LR is for Low Resistance and these attys have low ohms, usually between 1.5 and 1.8. The vapor they produce is warmer and many say it provides the same experience as a 5 or 6 volt vape. I wouldn't go that far but it is a warmer and more plumeful vape than 3.7 with 3.0 ohm attys/cartos.

I use HV attys at 6volts for flavors that don't like high heat (or low ohms). For 6 volts HV is 3.5 ohms and above.

I'm sorry, don't know what an ultra carto is.

Sorry for all the questions, but it has been hard trying to find answers using the search function given I'm still new to this whole big battery thing and don't understand most of the discussion thats going on in other threads!

thanks in advance

 

[Nem2k]

thank you for taking the time to reply!

LR is for Low Resistance and these attys have low ohms, usually between 1.5 and 1.8. The vapor they produce is warmer and many say it provides the same experience as a 5 or 6 volt vape. I wouldn't go that far but it is a warmer and more plumeful vape than 3.7 with 3.0 ohm attys/cartos.

I use HV attys at 6volts for flavors that don't like high heat (or low ohms). For 6 volts HV is 3.5 ohms and above.

so im guessing its not typical to use a LR carto when youre running at 6v otherwise the thing would run really hot and give you an insane amount of throat hit? If that is the case then I will probably just use regular cartos then

could you explain the difference between low resistance and high voltage in the context of PV's? electronics was never my strong point at school like I think I understand why a LR would get used, but a HV atty I don't really understand why or how it would work when the voltage is something you can control in the SB anyway with battery choice

 

[keyzygirl]

The way I understand it is,LR makes it appear as if your vaping a higher voltage,and HV makes it seem as though your vaping a lower voltage.
On 3.7 a lr would simulate 5v or close.
on 6-7v a hv would simulate around 5v or close.

 

[4door1.8t]

it looks like the silver bullet is out of stock on the website but hopefully its just a misprint or something i was hoping to get one tomorrow

 

[Sewknitty]

thank you for taking the time to reply!



so im guessing its not typical to use a LR carto when youre running at 6v otherwise the thing would run really hot and give you an insane amount of throat hit? If that is the case then I will probably just use regular cartos then

You don't need LR with high voltage. LR is for simulating high voltage on lower voltage devices. The most common usage is a 1.5 to 1.8 ohm atty or carto with a 3.7 to 4.2 device. A HV atty or carto will hum along at over 3.5 ohms and will have the opposite effect. It will cool vapor. As Keyz (who knows way more than me, btw) says, they will give you a 5 volt experience at 6 volts.

For 'standard' vaping at any voltage you'd do well to look for attys or cartos with 3.0 ohm rating. They'll give you a true sense of the voltage. I personally prefer 3.0 ohm cartos at 6 volts. It's toasty warm and the draw is short and easy (meaning, you don't have to make like you're sucking a marble through a straw to get the vapor).

could you explain the difference between low resistance and high voltage in the context of PV's? electronics was never my strong point at school like I think I understand why a LR would get used, but a HV atty I don't really understand why or how it would work when the voltage is something you can control in the SB anyway with battery choice

Everything I half-... know about ohms and resistance I learned through trial and error. For instance, I tried my LR at 5 volts, not understanding that lower number meant higher heat. There's a brilliant young guy by the name of Phee who has some instructional videos for novices like you and me. Check out Novice Vapers: Atty Resistance

Edited to add: you asked about HV in the context of battery choice for the SB. You can vape comfortably at 3.7 literally all day long. The SB isn't a regulated device so your 2nd choice - not recommended or advised by its makers, btw - is 6 volts. There is no middle number. You control the intensity of the heat with the resistance of your attys. LR to make 3.7 sizzle or HV to cool 6 volts down.

 

[Sewknitty]

it looks like the silver bullet is out of stock on the website but hopefully its just a misprint or something i was hoping to get one tomorrow

Good luck! Check out the chat agent tomorrow (if they're not snowed in like I am right now) and s/he'll have knowledge of inventory.

 

[cddz]

it looks like the silver bullet is out of stock on the website but hopefully its just a misprint or something i was hoping to get one tomorrow

With the Holiday I am sure it is not a misprint There will be more tomorrow(Monday) I am going on a trip that way to drop some off to Rob Hopefully he will have them listed on the site that evening, you never know shutting down for a day can really make for a busy day returning.

 

[4door1.8t]

With the Holiday I am sure it is not a misprint There will be more tomorrow(Monday) I am going on a trip that way to drop some off to Rob Hopefully he will have them listed on the site that evening, you never know shutting down for a day can really make for a busy day returning.

awesome im waiting for my email back from them i sent a contact request last night so hopefully here in the next few hours ill be heading out that way

 

[jagstang]

- I see a thing called silver vein. What is that? I assume its a finish, what does it look like?

It is a really pretty textured finish. Makes it look like it is cut from silver ore.