Acetyl Pyrazine 5% PG dilution for 30 ml mix

[Maurice Pudlo]

10.00 ppm (10 parts per million) tastes like roasted, nutty, bready and yeasty, with popcorn and chip....

If I take 1 ml and mix it with 165.6 ml of PG, I believe 1 ml will contain the right amount of AP for a 30 ml mix. If so 0.5 ml would be good for 15 ml mixes, etc.

Anyone care to check my math?

Maurice

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Okay let's maybe go about this a different way, for TFA AP 5% PG 0.02% yes twohundredths of one percent equals the 10.00 ppm noted on the TFA product page, however I've seen such a wide scope of suggestions from one drop in ten ml to one or two percent for the nutty taste to a few drops in a thirty ml bottle from which is used a drop or two per ten ml creation.

I'm not expecting to bang this flavor molecule out of the park or anything but the suggested ranges are all over the place.

Drops and I don't get along real well, there is just no real means of determining if a measurement is spot on, and for a flavor that plays at 10:1,000,000 I want to know what I'm doing.

I can understand that we aren't exactly tasting vapor the same way we might taste food, but do I need to use 5,000 times as much AP5% as TFA suggests is enough to get a particular effect?

Maurice

 

[twizted]

I've tried 1 drop per 10ml, 1 drop per 5ml, and 1 drop per 1ml & the only way I've found to get any AP taste effect was to steep my juice for what seemed forever.

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[dannyv45]

I've used this for quite a while and find 1% good to add more nuttyness to an already nutty flavor like T5, 555, highway and 2% to add nuttyness to a non nutty mix.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

I've used this for quite a while and find 1% good to add more nuttyness to an already nutty flavor like T5, 555, highway and 2% to add nuttyness to a non nutty mix.

Danny, your posts are the progenitor of the 1-2% in my second post. I really respect your advice.

Do you think the far higher ppm of 1-2% is due to vaporization use of the flavor molecule?

Possibly a majority don't survive the heating to vaporization or remain on the coil as gunk?

Have you noted and differences with different power levels or coil types?

Much of my questions are mainly out of curiosity, obviously practicality in the end, but I'm very curious none the less.

Also is the steep time for AP 5% of any particular interest in your opinion?

Maurice

 

[dannyv45]

All flavors are subject to heat and voltage and will change with temperature. AP is no different. At higher voltage you may experience more of a burnt taste but this is true with any flavor. Higher percentages as far as AP based on a 5% saturated solution will change taste as follows:

1 - 2% Nutty
3-4% - corn chip taste
greater then 4% - pop corn taste to burnt pop corn taste.

Heat also affect these results.

AP on it's own I find requires no steeping. So deciding if a mix that includes AP requires steeping would be determined by the other flavorings used.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

All flavors are subject to heat and voltage and will change with temperature. AP is no different. At higher voltage you may experience more of a burnt taste but this is true with any flavor. Higher percentages as far as AP based on a 5% saturated solution will change taste as follows:

1 - 2% Nutty
3-4% - corn chip taste
greater then 4% - pop corn taste to burnt pop corn taste.

Heat also affect these results.

As far as steeping regarding just AP I find steeping is not nessessary.

Thank you Sir.

Maurice