Advice for multi flavor juices

[KalThaxx]

I have been DIY'ing for almost six months and the only multi flavor juice I have made are recipes I have found on here.

lately I have been dialing in my single flavors and have them pretty much down. My question is if I have three flavors I want to blend but my percentages are different for each do I just use 1/3rd of each? Or is there a better way?

example
flavor 1 is 6% (blend at 2%)
flavor 2 is 3% (blend at 1%)
flavor 3 is 12% (blend at 4%)

Or should I just mix in single flavor batches and combine at 1/3rd each?

also, is there a way to control what flavors come thru on inhale and exhale? like mix one with my base let it steep a few days and and other flavors. Would that add to the complexity of the flavors? Or maybe it's flavor dependent or just a pipe dream. I know with certain vendors blends this happens so I must be possible.

am I on the right track? Any thoughts or help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Thunderball]

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[Levitas]

Hello Kal, I think you'll find the answer to both of your questions to be trial and error experimentation. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but that's pretty much the just of it.

When mixing multiple flavor blends, you'll have to just figure out what works per each blend, and that takes, again, experimentation. There is no pre-determined law to mixing multiple flavors. The only law is your taste cells.

Also, with the knowing how to many certain flavors pop out more pro-dominantly on the inhale/exhale, that also is just a matter of experimentation. I'll elaborate more: Some flavorings taste great on their own, but they're mostly introverts, and any inclination of another flavoring invading their personal bubble, they run and hide into their shell... so to speak. Those types of flavorings may be considered to be flavors tasted better on the exhale. Where as the pungent, powerful, loquacious extrovert flavorings will be the first to greet your taste cells with a mighty hello!

But again, all of this is just trial and error to figure out which ones will work together, which ones will hide in the back, and which ones will hit your tongue first. Those vendors you speak of were in the same spot you are before they started selling. They either lucked out with some winning combinations, or practiced until they got it down perfect. Likely a mixture of both.

Good luck to you, my friend.

 

[KalThaxx]

That's what I thought, just wanted to find a good starting point. After all the help and recipes I've receive from the community I just want to give something good back to everyone.

Hello Kal, I think you'll find the answer to both of your questions to be trial and error experimentation. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but that's pretty much the just of it.

When mixing multiple flavor blends, you'll have to just figure out what works per each blend, and that takes, again, experimentation. There is no pre-determined law to mixing multiple flavors. The only law is your taste cells.

Also, with the knowing how to many certain flavors pop out more pro-dominantly on the inhale/exhale, that also is just a matter of experimentation. I'll elaborate more: Some flavorings taste great on their own, but they're mostly introverts, and any inclination of another flavoring invading their personal bubble, they run and hide into their shell... so to speak. Those types of flavorings may be considered to be flavors tasted better on the exhale. Where as the pungent, powerful, loquacious extrovert flavorings will be the first to greet your taste cells with a mighty hello!

But again, all of this is just trial and error to figure out which ones will work together, which ones will hide in the back, and which ones will hit your tongue first. Those vendors you speak of were in the same spot you are before they started selling. They either lucked out with some winning combinations, or practiced until they got it down perfect. Likely a mixture of both.

Good luck to you, my friend.

 

[cookiebun]

Just experiment and see what you prefer.

 

[souleaterzer0]

I always start in low percentages when mixing multiflavored juices. I start in the 1-5% range and go from there.

 

[Moogle]

I agree with the above only adding that trying other people's recipes and tweaking from there helped me a lot. I am by no means an expert but feel a lot more comfortable trying something new. I also do searches and reference this site for flavor percentages, etc. As far as getting the inhale/exhale flavor thing the 2 ways are experience or a scientific approach making many small batches with varying percentages of the say 2 flavors, like:

Total flavor 10%

Flavor 1 - 4%, flavor 2 - 6%
Flavor 1 - 5% flavor 2 - 5%
Etc.

Either way takes time and experimenting. Personally I just mix up someone else's recipe and tweak from there to customize.

 

[Blkwdw86]

Some flavors are stronger than others. That needs to be taken into account when putting them together. Stronger flavors will overwhelm weaker ones and must be compensated for in your mixture ratio. That comes down to trial and error, although noting the flavor ratios used in recipes you find give you a good guide to start from.

 

[Blitzdonlife]

Also I notice when mixing multi-flavor recipes that some flavors when combined taste completely different combined versus alone. Sometimes that is a good thing, sometimes not. And I need a lower % of each flavor to taste it when I add more flavors. The # flavors goes up, my %'s go down.

 

[Simply Red]

I've found a web site that makes the best "Blueberry Waffle with extra Maple Syrup" (ordered it that way) with the right proportions. I want to try making it myself but not sure of the strengths of the flavors I'll be ordering.TFA has the waffle and LorAnn has the blueberry and maple. The description at LorAnns is listed under "Super Strength Flavors" (Super Strength makes me nervous). Wouldn't want the BB or Maple to over power the Waffle if the waffle isn't as strong as the others.

Any suggestions on percentages? Does it depend on the PG/VG ratio?

Thanks.

 

[sleepygirl]

After/while experimenting, like others have recommended, I started working on my own simple recipes with 2 flavors at a time. (3 is way too advanced for me yet).

I start with a 3ml base - I use 100% vg.
add: 3 drops flavor 1
3 drops flavor 2
2 drops EM
2 drops sucralose
I also add marshmallow to many recipes - I like the effect it has.

Test and see what you think.....Is it garbage, does it need more or less of something, is it "spot on"? It's all about experimentation - who knows, maybe you'll be lucky like me and find some delicious mixes. It's all about finding what works for you. Don't forget to allow steeping to take effect if you find you don't like the mix initially. Once in awhile I find a juice that isn't vapeable right away but improves with time.

Most important - Have fun!!!!

 

[savagemann]

Once you've found the working percentages of the flavors you want to use, you have a good start.
I usually just wing it once I have working % for each flavor.
Lets say I want to make blueberry waffles.
My blueberry is good at 10%
Waffle is good at 6%
Maple is good at 5%

Then I imagine how I want each flavor note to taste.
I don't want them all to taste of equal %.
Then I decide in what order I want the most flavor notes.
So lets say I want mostly waffle, with blueberry coming in second and maple as a slight background note.
Out of my working % I would most likely go.....
Waffle 5%
Blueberry 5%
Maple 1%

From there I can easily add more of one of the flavors, or if it happens that they balance out nicely, but are a little weak, I can up each one until it is right.

Perfect example is a simple vanilla flavor I literally just mixed up an hour ago.
Recipe was.....
Madagascar Vanilla
French Vanilla
Vanilla Swirl
Vanilla Tahiti

I did exactly as I said above, and only ended up making 2 small changes, adding an additional 1% of 2 of the flavors and it was perfect.

As others have said, lots of trial and error, but you need to jump in with both feet and don't be afraid of failure!

 

[Simply Red]

Once you've found the working percentages of the flavors you want to use, you have a good start.
I usually just wing it once I have working % for each flavor.
Lets say I want to make blueberry waffles.
My blueberry is good at 10%
Waffle is good at 6%
Maple is good at 5%

Then I imagine how I want each flavor note to taste.
I don't want them all to taste of equal %.
Then I decide in what order I want the most flavor notes.
So lets say I want mostly waffle, with blueberry coming in second and maple as a slight background note.
Out of my working % I would most likely go.....
Waffle 5%
Blueberry 5%
Maple 1%

From there I can easily add more of one of the flavors, or if it happens that they balance out nicely, but are a little weak, I can up each one until it is right.

Perfect example is a simple vanilla flavor I literally just mixed up an hour ago.
Recipe was.....
Madagascar Vanilla
French Vanilla
Vanilla Swirl
Vanilla Tahiti

I did exactly as I said above, and only ended up making 2 small changes, adding an additional 1% of 2 of the flavors and it was perfect.

As others have said, lots of trial and error, but you need to jump in with both feet and don't be afraid of failure!

Thanks! That's a big help. I would have done the 10-6-5 not knowing any better.

 

[partyannimal]

As others have said, lots of trial and error, but you need to jump in with both feet and don't be afraid of failure!

Great words of advice for any DIY'er!

 

[Steamix]

Multi-flavour mixing is fun and - as others said - loads of trial and error. Sometimes flavours tend to cancel each other out, sometimes one flavour anhances the other, sometimes you end up with something tasting completely different thand waht you'd epxect from the individual flavours.
Doesn't hurt to make each flavour separately and 'blend' them shortly before vaping. If and how they 'react' with each other depends on the chemicals used to create the flavour in the first place. And he makers won't tell ya - a good flavour is worth good money and therefor a well-kept trade secret.

Experiment and expirement - as long as you don't blow the roof off your dwellings keep experimenting....

I even vape my failures to the last drop ( sometimes barefoot so that my shoes or soks won't get ruined when my toenails are curling upwards ) - but there's something to be learnt from failures too...