I started vaping 2 months ago and it was a bit of an adjustment at first but I was very happy with it. I convinced my dad to give it a try. He is a 2 pad smoker with COPD and lives on his inhaler. He wants to convert but he considers himself a worst case and not capable. I ordered him an ego twist and clearomizer kit and he dreaded the day it would arrive. He eventually tried it and while he said he liked it he says things like it is too stressful at work right now to get started. I think he is afraid to give up his analogs. He is resistant to any new technology, he only just learned to use the texting function on his phone and doesn't even want to think of using a computer lol. I was hoping anyone who might have felt the same way at one time might have some advice. Thanks!
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Hmmm... although I'm not a technophobe, I'll offer some suggestions.
The Twist is a good device - but he'll need two. One to use while the other charges.
Same with the clearo, as coils do fail, gunk up, and otherwise decline in performance. Or at least a few extra heads for them. But having two or more clearos with different flavors is a nice way to go.
Most important is the juice. While I'll leave flavors to you and him, as obviously I have no idea what you like, I'd suggest 24mg to start. You say he's a heavy smoker, and having too low a nic level won't do the trick. (I started with 18, didn't work, moved to 24 last October and have been tobacco free since.) Nic levels can be lowered later, if desired.
Take the time to go over procedures with him. Clearos are super easy to work with. But since it's slightly more than "remove cig from pack, light", show him. Repeatedly.
Surf over to CASAA and print out some of the info there, especially from this page: Tobacco Harm Reduction
Good luck!
The Twist is a good device - but he'll need two. One to use while the other charges.
Same with the clearo, as coils do fail, gunk up, and otherwise decline in performance. Or at least a few extra heads for them. But having two or more clearos with different flavors is a nice way to go.
Most important is the juice. While I'll leave flavors to you and him, as obviously I have no idea what you like, I'd suggest 24mg to start. You say he's a heavy smoker, and having too low a nic level won't do the trick. (I started with 18, didn't work, moved to 24 last October and have been tobacco free since.) Nic levels can be lowered later, if desired.
Take the time to go over procedures with him. Clearos are super easy to work with. But since it's slightly more than "remove cig from pack, light", show him. Repeatedly.
Surf over to CASAA and print out some of the info there, especially from this page: Tobacco Harm Reduction
Good luck!
when I started my intention was to cut back, not quit. I wanted to go from 2 1/2+ pad to 1 pack a day.
so when I wanted a cig I vaped a while. if I still wanted the cig after vaping, I had it (guilt free). for my first cig of the day, I vaped 10 min. before I was "allowed" to have the cig. next day I waited 20 min, etc. it wasn't long that I was surprised to notice that my first cig of the day was at 1 in the afternoon. I quickly got down to 2 cigs a day. I and everyone who knows me was shocked! and 2 years later I still smoke my 2 cigs a day, cause I'm old and I want to!
so I advise that he try just cutting back, not focusing on quiting. no stress, no guilt - just do the best he can
count the ones he does NOT smoke, not the ones he does. I believe every cig you don't smoke is a milestone I've gotten a few people to try vaping by suggesting they just use it when they are not allowed to smoke. several of them turned into vapers
don't pressure him and good luck to both of you
so when I wanted a cig I vaped a while. if I still wanted the cig after vaping, I had it (guilt free). for my first cig of the day, I vaped 10 min. before I was "allowed" to have the cig. next day I waited 20 min, etc. it wasn't long that I was surprised to notice that my first cig of the day was at 1 in the afternoon. I quickly got down to 2 cigs a day. I and everyone who knows me was shocked! and 2 years later I still smoke my 2 cigs a day, cause I'm old and I want to!
so I advise that he try just cutting back, not focusing on quiting. no stress, no guilt - just do the best he can
count the ones he does NOT smoke, not the ones he does. I believe every cig you don't smoke is a milestone
I've gotten a few people to try vaping by suggesting they just use it when they are not allowed to smoke. several of them turned into vapers don't pressure him and good luck to both of you
you can drag a horse to water...but you can't make him drink. he will always have an excuse until he is ready. encourage him continually. is he vaping at all? i was a 45 year smoker, so he can do it. if he is vaping some...tell him to count the cigs he has not smoked, not the ones he has.
i set up 4 adult children with cig a like vaping gear.....2 of them say they use it at work (hospital). one says it is not taking away the cravings, and the 4th says she is vaping and smoking.......but until they are ready to do it, all i can do is encourage them and show them by example that it works!
tell your dad he does not have to give up the smokes. everyone gives them up at their own pace. tell him to vape as much as possible, and he can still smoke.........he will be happier with that....and it still works! he will surprise himself! check back in and let us know how it goes.
and congrats to you on your victory!
i set up 4 adult children with cig a like vaping gear.....2 of them say they use it at work (hospital). one says it is not taking away the cravings, and the 4th says she is vaping and smoking.......but until they are ready to do it, all i can do is encourage them and show them by example that it works!
tell your dad he does not have to give up the smokes. everyone gives them up at their own pace. tell him to vape as much as possible, and he can still smoke.........he will be happier with that....and it still works! he will surprise himself! check back in and let us know how it goes.
and congrats to you on your victory!
Quitting smoking is a monumental challenge. To many smokers, the idea of giving up something that is such a part of their lives is unimaginable. However, the effort and perseverance necessary to be successful is well worth it. To be free of cigarettes is a wonderful thing.
I agree. Try the gradual approach. As the saying goes, "you have to crawl before you can walk." Just try and get your dad used to the e-cig experience. You may have to try different juices, nic levels, and devices. I know this can be costly but if it results in getting your dad off cigs then it's money well spent. I always said, "whatever it takes to keep me off cigarettes."
I hope you, and your dad, are successful.
I agree. Try the gradual approach. As the saying goes, "you have to crawl before you can walk." Just try and get your dad used to the e-cig experience. You may have to try different juices, nic levels, and devices. I know this can be costly but if it results in getting your dad off cigs then it's money well spent. I always said, "whatever it takes to keep me off cigarettes."
I hope you, and your dad, are successful.
Don't make him look at it as if he has to quit smoking. Just try to get him to use it to smoke less. Every cigarette not smoked is one less nail in the coffin. If there's no real pressure to quit, and he's like most of us, eventually he'll come around.
My sons bought me a kit for Father's Day almost two years ago. They just asked me to try it out. I never had any intention of quitting, the very thought of that was frightening, I'd been smoking for almost 40 years. So I vaped a little, and smoked a lot, then I vaped more and smoked less, then I vaped a lot and smoked just a little. About a month later I smoked my last cigarette ever.
No pressure. Smoke them when you need them.
My sons bought me a kit for Father's Day almost two years ago. They just asked me to try it out. I never had any intention of quitting, the very thought of that was frightening, I'd been smoking for almost 40 years. So I vaped a little, and smoked a lot, then I vaped more and smoked less, then I vaped a lot and smoked just a little. About a month later I smoked my last cigarette ever.
No pressure. Smoke them when you need them.
Everyone has his/her own threshold regarding quitting. Some never fully give up in making the transition to vaping, so if he can even cut in half his smoking, that might be considered a real success.
I gradually declined my analog use over a course of 2 years, my last 2 weeks I was down to 1 to 2 analogs a day on a highly stressful day. I went from being a 20+ yr 2 pack a day smoker to vaping 100% in 2 years, so tell him don't be discouraged. Ask him to carry the 650mah with him at work, trying to use it instead of an analog every 2 to 3 times he needs a cig break, but not vape instead 100% of the time during the work day hours. When not at work, try vaping more at home, gradually, to help him transition easier into it, if he really interested in doing so, jumping right in, or trying to crutch on vaping right off, his body may not accept, nor will his mind accept it readily.
Like suggested above, it is more about suggestion and advice than pressure and information bombardment, especially if he has an addictive personality, and I speak from being someone with an addictive personality
Like suggested above, it is more about suggestion and advice than pressure and information bombardment, especially if he has an addictive personality, and I speak from being someone with an addictive personality
Just dont give up. Any encouragment from you will not be wasted.
My mom sent me news and magazine articals on eCigs. I poo poo'ed them. But look at me now. She was right!
My mom sent me news and magazine articals on eCigs. I poo poo'ed them. But look at me now. She was right!
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Hi there. Hope you get your pops to eventually quit the stinkies. Just a thought . . . If your dad is in to any kind of tinkering, you might think about getting him into mechanical mod ecigs and rebuildable atomizers. I have just started vaping (1 month cig free now), but the little "project" of building your own coils can be quite rewarding. The mechanical mods have a better hand feel to them than the ego batteries (less dainty). Also when the battery dies in one he can just pop in another just like a flashlight which will feel a little more familiar.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
also, I would see if there are any meets coming up near you. it can be inspiring to get together with a group of people who are into vaping
one of my friends husband was kinda poo-pooing vaping as being girly until he went to a meet
one of my friends husband was kinda poo-pooing vaping as being girly until he went to a meet
I just started from analogs a few weeks ago and didn't feel satisfied with just vaping, but i have cut down from 3/4 pack to 3 analogs a day. I think its all about finding the right juice, i received some Halo Tribecca today that i really like. Fingers crossed. I wish him all the best.
Same here. Quit at you own pace. I did. It Is about the cigs not smoked, not the ones you have.
Have him check out this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dicted-smoking-habit-support-chat-thread.html
Too stressful at work? Ok, how about just trying them at home? Replace a few cigs at home with vaping.
Little steps still equal progress.
Little steps still equal progress.
all great suggestions, just make sure the nic is a high level. If he tries it but gets no nic fix It will be pushed aside
As stated before, start him off with a high level of nicotine to satisfy the craving and work down. It helped cut me way down on analogs and i see myself being analog free very soon.
I'm 60 years old and was a 3 pad 40 year smoker. I'm not sure I would have quit using a larger battery with a clearo. A cig-size with a carto was much better at replicating smoking...and in many ways still is. Of course, after 9 months I have several sizes of batteries, and many delivery systems. I still turn to my cig-size and cartos when I'm out and about in public. They just seem more natural.
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