Advice on an RBA

[Geckgo]

Well, I'll be turning in to bed soon, but I'll be back.

I might buy some more toys this weekend. A big vivi-nova and maybe a kanger to try out. I'm thinking about throwing a AGA on the list to try out RBAs. I'm happy with my zmax and want something bigger to top it off with than my little minis.

I'm new to RBAs (never built on yet) so something considered easy would be nice. I'm not a stranger to electronics and I can solder and do some machining without any issues. But for getting started I want something easy.

Do these all leak if they get sideways? I'm rough on gear, so if laying on its side is going to be problematic then it's probably a no-go and I'll leave rebuildables to an rda. If I get one this weekend then I want a tank though.

Single coil is preferred. I may get a dual coil if I like it but for starters I'd like to stay with one coil.

um, can't think of anything else, but extra info is always helpful

 

[oDANo]

I've heard AGA T2 is a good start to getting into RBA's, I myself will be purchasing one soon and it will be my first RBA to build.

 

[Geckgo]

That's one I've been researching. Also going to look into the Trident, Nimbus, and IGO-L. Going to bed now, but hopefully tomorrow I can do some more research. It'll be at least a week before I can go home so I'll have plenty of time to make the order. Oilfield sucks when it comes to waiting on mail. My mail is usually waiting on me.

edit: nm, those appear to be drip attys

 

[308hjute]

RSST is an excellent starter RBA guys. A little less fiddly to coil than an AGA-T in my opinion.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

In all seriousness, I think the AGA t2 or the RSST is a bad choice for just beginning RBAs. They are seriously difficult to get working. When I started RBAs, I started with an AGA t2 and an RSST. I ordered a bunch of steel mesh online and started building. I thought, "meh, they might take a little extra time learning, but I'll have them up and running in a few weeks." A few weeks turned into months and I just could not get them running. Then I got a Kayfun Lite. I got that thing working in less than a day.

With that said, the RSST is probably the easiest genesis to set up with steel mesh, but it is by no means easy for a beginner. Steel mesh is a total b---- to get working properly. However, the taste of your juice is pretty spectacular for a tank RBA.

All in all though, none of those atomizers hold a candle to my Reo and Reomizer combo. Simple and flavorful, the Reo always wins out.

 

[StarDose]

Rocket or a fogger v2 would be a good place to start with rbas. I thought a genesis would be a great rba to start out with, but the pita to get one coiled and keeping it working isn't worth the time. I get a better vape from my rdas and only takes minutes to get a good coil on one. Otherwise for a tank to go out with the ones I mentioned work great and are.pretty easy to coil. I do like micro coils in my protanks and evods and are easy to do aswell.

 

[joaquingt]

for your first RBA go for the RSST, if you like the glass tank for the aga t2 just make sure you buy some washers and a spring to mod the center post, aga t2 is a PITA if you dont know how to get rid of hot legs

 

[Baditude]

This should help:

Information Resources for Your First RBA



AGA-T2 on Provari

 

[Geckgo]

Thanks for the link and the info guys. Can I assume that b/c nobody mentioned it that these are okay to lay on their side from time to time? (AGA or Gen-style)

 

[Vaslovik]

I've heard AGA T2 is a good start to getting into RBA's, I myself will be purchasing one soon and it will be my first RBA to build.

Uuuuhhhh... yeah... I started with the AGA-T2, and later on got an RSST. I wish I'd started with the RSST. I will say that the AGA-T2 was a good teacher, it can be a quite cantankerous device to deal with, the nuts on the centerpost are tiny little things that are a pain to deal with and from time to time the coil would develop hot spots out of nowhere, when it was vaping great moments earlier, and it would suddenly get really harsh on me. The little nuts on the centerpost would come loose under heat and I'd get serious ohms creep. Also, you have to be careful not to let the wick touch the METAL bottom of the tank, where it will ground out your coil.

If you want to really learn how to build an RBA well and learn all the pitfalls get the AGA-T2, it will teach you well and drive you nuts while teaching you. If you just want a good vape right off, go with the RSST, which I'm vaping on as I write this.

 

[catalinaflyer]

Rocket or a fogger v2 would be a good place to start with rbas.

I wouldn't wish a Fogger V2/3 on my worst enemy as a good "starter" anything. They are a real PITA to get working properly, just read the Fogger thread elsewhere on here.

 

[brdrk]

I also recommend the RSST. It's pretty much foolproof as far as gennys go. With the right builds they are pretty great.

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[generic mutant]

From my limited experience, the Igo-L is easy as heck to set up - that's where I started, and within a few hours I had it going.

I couldn't get anywhere at all with the AGA-T2 until I started using wire rope wick, with a little sleeve of mesh around it. It acts as something of a heat sink, but it wicks well, and seemed to make things much easier.

 

[tj99959]

Thanks for the link and the info guys. Can I assume that b/c nobody mentioned it that these are okay to lay on their side from time to time? (AGA or Gen-style)

Anytime there is a hole in the side there is the risk of leakage.

 

[Vaslovik]

In all seriousness, I think the AGA t2 or the RSST is a bad choice for just beginning RBAs. They are seriously difficult to get working.

Excuse me, but my own experience differs markedly from yours with regards to the RSST, which a great many people who have used them will tell you is a snap to set up. After living with an AGA-T2 for a while the RSST was a breeze, and a joy to vape. I will readily agree with you about the AGA-T2, but not the RSST. I'm not sure why you found it difficult, but this is the first time I've heard that from anyone.

 

[brdrk]

If all else fails on the rsst, you just make it an auto dripper. Easy as pie to set up.

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[Vaslovik]

If all else fails on the rsst, you just make it an auto dripper. Easy as pie to set up.

Interesting, do you have a pic of that setup? I'd like to see that.

For my part, for a total rebuild, I just get one of my wicks out of the bottle I keep them in, wind 28 kanthal around it 4/3, stick it in the wick hole, lock down the ends, and I've got .8 ohm and ready to vape. I don't see how it's hard at all. Sometimes I have to nudge the coil loops gently with a dental pick to get the coil glowing uniformly, but there's nothing difficult about that. I can re-wick and re-coil my RSST in about 3 min.

 

[Asbestos4004]

To answer your initial question ....genesis style atomizers aren't the best choice for laying in their side. Especially with a ss wick. They do leak. I wick mine with cotton and that seems to seal them a bit better but thats not why I use cotton. I have both the RSST and the AGA T+. I generally only use them at home. They're very position dependent. Kayfun like RBA'S are a better choice for out and about. They're pricey though. Not sure what you're looking to spend and I can't speak for the clones...don't have any.

 

[Sweethime]

I recently bought a kayfun lite and a few other RBAs (fogger too)and I'm going to try today to build them. Wish me luck. It'll be my first go at rebuilding. Exciting.

 

[Geckgo]

so on both the AGA and the RSST, the wick drops down through a hole into the tank, right? Does juice leak out of that hole if you turn it sideways? Is it better to use wire mesh for this purpose or just stuff enough cotton wick in the hole to make sure it doesn't leak and balance that with making it loose enough where it doesn't impede the flow of juice?