Advice on cartomizer tanks, guidance needed

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adammatt333

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Ordered my first carto tank, Boge F16(just to play it safe). I have been hooked on clearomizer tanks pretty much since I started vaping, mini Vivi nova, Kanger T2, and the Kanger Protank. All these devices have vaped well, though I am prone to use my Protank the most, I need something a bit more when it comes to consistent performance. The overall look of the device isn't important to me, it's about how it vapes and has a 510 connection, I am using a My Vapor Store "Lavatube". Tried dripping for a while and it's not for me, just looking for pros and cons of a carto tank or anyone who has used the Boge F16 for insight. I needs duuh help, please and thank you.




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I can't really think of any cons to a carto tank once you move on from the clearomizers. Matter of fact, you will probably realize how NOT easy clearos are, despite the claim that they are so easy. The only "con" may be that you will be a bit shy of learning the carto tank, but you'll quickly overcome it and realize it's very easy. I would recommend buying pre-punched cartomizers for the first week or so, then buy blank ones and punch your own, as the pre-punched holes are rather small. If you get a carto with a single pre-punched hole though, you may find it lacking a bit in flavor (YMMV) so a cheap carto punch might be a good investment now, just punch another hole on the other side. You probably want to get a tank filling tool. But once you get the hang of the carto tank, you'll see that a good tank will be much easier to use and such IMHO. I would recommend also getting a complete pyrex tank kit from IBtanked, each kit comes with the complete tank, a carto, replacement o-rings and the carto tool.
 

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I've been vaping a little over a year. Over the course of that time, my favorite and go-to delivery devices have been cartotanks. I've found them to provide better flavor of my juices than the string-wicked delivery devices. They are also not position dependent like string wicks are. (I find it annoying to always remember to "tip" my battery device in order to keep the wicks wet and avoid dry hits.)

I feel much more confident transporting my cartotank-topped PV in my pants pocket than I would a clearomizer or clearotank. They seem much better built and to be able to withstand some pressure or mild abuse. Most of today's choices of cartotank tube materials are either pyrex or polypropylene plastic which are safe to use with the volatile juice flavors. With the exception of the pyrex-tubed Kanger ProTank, all of the clearomizers and Nova tanks still use the vulnerable polycarbonate plastic (polycarbonate) which can crack or melt when in contact with many flavors of e-liquid.

There is a slightly higher learning curve with cartotanks than the easier to setup clearotanks, but if you follow a proven method one should have few if any issues from the start. There are a few ways to set one up and no one way is "best". The most common beginner mistake is not properly pre-filling the cartomizer prior to adding it to the tank. The second is filling the tank with the top cap off and then flooding the carto by placing the top cap on the tank. And third, not adjusting your vaping technique to cartotanks.

I feel cartotanks require a "slowing down" of your vaping style. No hard draws on the tank, unless you feel you need to further prime the carto (called dry pulls or sucking the tank w/o firing the button). You have to give the tank time to replenish the carto with more juice.

Think straw and a milkshake. Slow, deliberate, patient draws of 3 - 6 seconds in length. Take your time; enjoy your vape.
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I've written several articles geared towards beginners in my blog. You can access them by clicking the link below my avatar. A few you would be most interested in are:


Juice delivery devices, including explanations of cartomizers and cartotanks, pictures in use, and videos: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

A cartotank tutorial, with step by step method that I personally use, and a couple of demo videos, and a strong recommendation of a popular cartotank tool with a funny name: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

Large list of online vendors that sell pre-punched cartomizers for tanks: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3295-2-sample-list-vendors-selling-pre-punched-single-coil-cartomizers-cartotanks.html

Review of a popular and recommended pyrex cartotank with suggestions on what length carto to use with what tank: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3318-3-ibtanked-pyrex-glass-tanks-review.html

Delivery devices considered safe to use with the cinnamon and citrus flavors: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3733-6-something-safe-cinnamon-citrus-flavors.html

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There are minor differences in brands of cartomizers. Two major brands are Boge and Smoktech.

Boge's filler material has a denser packing, which may make adding juice take longer and which may slow wicking of the juice while in the tank, but which may be less likely to flood the carto during use.

Smoketechs are the other extreme. Their filler is less dense, easier to fill and to wick, but which may be more likely to flood during use. These cartos come with a flange near the connector which prevent the tank from sliding toward the battery device.

Cartotanks will be sold as either a standard or XL length. Purchase the appropriate length cartos to match your tank.

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I'll echo the need to properly fill the carto. Doing this well ensures a week or more of pleasant vapes. Doing this poorly ruins the carto and gives a burnt taste and dissatisfaction.

I usually fill the new one over the course of a few hours, while I'm working. 3-4 drips and let it soak in. Repeat a little while later.

I use a large clothes pin or clamp to hold the carto.

The XL length tanks hold more juice.. So if you want that, choose an XL sized tank.

Also, the carto is held in the tank with rubber o-rings. The carto itself is a thin metal tube. To make the carto replacement easy, protect the o-rings and vastly simplify take refills, get a tank carto tool. I bought mine from Phiniac for $4. Many recommend the Slap Yo Mama tool, you can Google for it.
 

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Baditude has all the information you should need in his post. I have carto tanks, clearos, and RBA's, I like them all, but each of us is different. You should be happy with your new tank, congrats on trying something new.

As for a tank filling tool,like the slap your mama, try something like this, Tank Filler Drip Tip
shipping is included in the price and it doubles as a drip tip. I have a couple and they work well.
 

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woah, thank you, that answered about any question I could possibly have about carto tanks. Tipping is annoying on the vivi nova especially and to be honest the draw on the damn thing is a bit rough I rarely use it now. I should be getting the Boge today, awesome information now I won't screw it up as soon as I pull it out of the package. Again, thank you for this very useful information.
 

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Get the Boge and learn. I will say that some of the pre=punched cartos, especially the ONE hole punches don't have much flavor for me. The TWO holes do ok though. I was scared to punch a carto myself, but I bought the cheapo $8 punch you can find everywhere and I've never messed one up. You can practice on a used carto if you like when it's time to toss it.

Once you get used to the Boge, check out some IBtanks. No affiliation, but they're complete kits with pyrex tanks are a screaming deal. Each kit comes with a filler tool and a "thingy" which I just realized works GREAT for priming the carto with no hassle. I've had the tanks for awhile and always just thought they were for storing the tank. Learn something new every day! :)

FWIW- I'm a new member here, but have been vaping for awhile and finally joined the forum after a very long time of just reading it.
 

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The only delivery device I use is the Boge F16/F17. I have had nothing but good luck with that tank. Just be careful about harsh liquids as they will crack the tank. I find myself ordering e-juice that I know will not give the tank a problem. For the price they can not be beat. I also use the Boge F16 cartomizers and have had good luck with them as well. My normal mod is a Vamo V2 with vv Gripper as back-up. Sure Vapes has some really good prices with free shipping.
Boge F16 Cartomizer Tank (Clear)
Boge F16 Tank Cartomizers (1 box):
 

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First off thanks everyone for the advice and knowledge. The links that Baditude posted, more than helpful, properly filled the carto and an all around great vape. The Boge has become my favorite device in my collection so far, love the way it hits, pretty good vapor production and it lasts a long while for me day to day and a half with filling the tank about 3/4 of the way up. So, what are some great carto tanks?
 

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the Boge F16 and F17 are my first carto tanks. once I got the Boge cartos primed properly, and it took a while- dense filler!- I couldn't put it down! had to dilute my juice with VG, wanted more vapor and needed less nic!

the SmokTek replacement cartos are working great. I'm not using the tanks exclusively, but the cartos lasted me 6 days before I could tell they needed changing, and from the looks of them, will be fine to clean and throw back in rotation.
 

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The links that Baditude posted, more than helpful...So, what are some great carto tanks?

What battery device are you using? Knowing the size of the battery device helps in suggesting a particular tank, as manufacturers make different sized tanks. I have the below tanks and can recommend any of them.

*IBTanked is a very good all-around manufacturer as they offer 19mm, 22mm, and 25mm diameter tanks for nearly all sizes of battery devices. IBTanked - Get Tanked With Us!

*Phiniac Phiniac Rugged Pyrex Glass Tanks makes a 22mm and 18mm (skinny phinny) diameter tank.

*Valley View Vapes makes a wider tank (1" or 25mm) good for larger battery devices. Pyrex Tanks

*Big Daddy Vapor makes a nice anodized aluminum tank with polypropylene juice windows http://bigdaddyvapor.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

EDIT: Looked back through this thread and now see that you are using a Lavatube mod.
 
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Having tried my first cartomizer, mostly due to Baditudes awesome recommendations and awesome, intelligent posts (you are awesome), I'm never looking back. I'll be purchasing one or four cartotanks tonight or tomorrow and probably 15 or so Boge cartomizers. You can get really well designed tanks for really cheap, and later on you can drop money on something a bit more stylish if you choose. IMO, I would play it safe and just buy tanks that are either glass or polypropylene. No point in limiting yourself with polycarbonate tanks.

My next step, personally, are RBA's and RDA's (rebuildable atomizers and rebuildable dripping atomizers, respectively). RDA's are, in my opinion, more of a home juice delivery system.

Do your research thoroughly before getting into rebuildables, and be safe and you'll save your face.
 
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