Advice on what to buy for newcomers
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Home boy don't get your panties in a bunch. I didn't say anything vulgar, indecent, or inapropriate. Netiquette? If you can't handle being disagreed with you should not be here. This is an online forum. As long as I'm being civil, I'll say whatever I want.
Lmao! Spoken like a true government official! You have invoked your freedom of speech, so let everyone else invoke their freedom of choice.
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And all that proves is that spending millions on marketing for a bad product will get people to buy that product. It says nothing about the effectiveness of that bad product. I would bet if you could do a survey of those who bought a Blu and those who bought a better battery device, you would find a vast majority of the Blu buyers either went back to smoking or bought a second device whereas that would not be the case with the better battery device. It's about what "works" not "great marketing".
No Zen. I do not think your post is going over the top and I did not say that you exagerated. Now you are sensitive. Be cool. I merely wished to know from your great idea how to explain to those who are persistant in introducing their eGo. It is a world where you have to learn to understand why people do that. If they are happy expressing their feeling, should we prevent them? The question is that simple.
Absolutely. Real battery mods are way better. I would rather use a cheap, plastic box mod than a proprietary Chinese device. That's why I always refer to the eGo family as a gateway PV. Good enough to vape on, but a lot of people will eventually move on to something cooler.
In my wife's case, she was frustrated trying to keep her 510 batteries charged, and moving from smoking to vaping was already frustrating and I wanted her to succeed. When the eGo USB passthrough arrived she fell in love with it and rarely uses her 510s anymore. She'll probably never get a mod, and for her the eGo passthrough was the perfect device.
I think a lot of the biased opinions just simply come from bad experiences. No need in getting red over a few comments on here lol. But let me ask this. If any of you were on a thread talking top a newb, and they were getting or already had a pv you had nothing but trouble with would you not tell them what's up? That's what this whole thing is here for right? I can see where people can get upset with a same old same old response about the ego, or whichever pv if the flavor of that year. But if it trumps what the user already has, what's the problem with recommending it?
Actually, I'm out of this thread because I've added all that I can to it... I don't feel the need to mindlessly drive home my point, over and over again ad nauseum...
In translation, I have nothing further to add, so in short... I'm on to the next thread.
In translation, I have nothing further to add, so in short... I'm on to the next thread.
If they have a decent PV why not try and make their experience with their PV better instead of buying a new kit.
Also if the eGo was $80 like when I started vaping in April, nobody would be pushing it.
I believe what Zen was going for was that even though our newest PV users or users wishing to start who are looking for the proper information to make a good decision for them are getting blindsided by some of our population here who does not know anything about the person other than what is written in their post, basing their opinion on what the person needs just depending on how many cigarettes they smoke on a daily basis. It just doesn't work like that. Without delving into the psychological side of their addiction to cigarettes, it is quite hard to make an justified opinion on what they really need for them to kick analogs.
Nothing should be prevented, but more information needs to be given unto the individual aspects of numerous PV's and listing pros and cons of each. Only then can the consumer be granted an choice based on what he/she feels is necessary to get off analogs. Isn't that the big goal here?
I'm in class fool (Mr T voice). Waiting for an eval, so yeh I have been quite a bit.
Most of the rip off starter kits are well over 80 bucks. Besides, with that I had in the beginning, you were not going to improve the function enough to get me what I needed. That only came with a bigger battery. That's my experience, so for the most part, that's going to be my advice.
Patient: Doc, based on my symptons, what do you suggest?
Doctor: I think we need for you to get a Colonoscopy.
Patient: WHAT! No way, Doc, no one is going to stick something up my back end!!!!
Doctor: Well, that is my expert opinion.
Patient: You "experts" are always pushing these so-called better procedures. I think I will just get one of those "cleansing" products advertized so well on TV. I'm sure that will work.
One month later:
Funeral Director: You like the oak casket the best?
Wife: Yes, tearfully
I hope a few of you have a strange sense of humor as I do. For the rest of you, I will apologize in advance
Doctor: I think we need for you to get a Colonoscopy.
Patient: WHAT! No way, Doc, no one is going to stick something up my back end!!!!
Doctor: Well, that is my expert opinion.
Patient: You "experts" are always pushing these so-called better procedures. I think I will just get one of those "cleansing" products advertized so well on TV. I'm sure that will work.
One month later:
Funeral Director: You like the oak casket the best?
Wife: Yes, tearfully
I hope a few of you have a strange sense of humor as I do. For the rest of you, I will apologize in advance
I often tell strangers to pick up a 510 and an LR cartomizer. I don't bother telling them the battery only lasts 30 min. Or that the LR carto might blow the battery or vice-versa. I may tell them to get extra batteries and an extra charger. they think they know what they want. And the 510/lr will get them pretty damn close in most cases. And hell its not my money their wasting.
I don't see anything wrong with that advice. Sounds pretty solid to me.
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