Advice to newbies..

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Twan013

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Hey guys, Twan here, just wanting to offer some advice I've learned just in the past week.

1- If you THINK you know what you want, you're probably wrong. I was a numbskull and HAD to have an automatic. Instead, I ordered a tornado (eGo) with a manual battery. Don't know why I changed my mind, I guess I figured that by buying a poor-quality automatic, I would end up hating vaping. Besides, it seems that the eGo is the best all around PV. Don't get me wrong, I'll probably still end up ordering an automatic down the road, but I felt the need to order something i KNOW would work.

2- if you THINK you won't direct drip, go ahead and buy a drip tip anyway. I swore up and down that I would refill my own carts, and I didn't want to drip. That lasted 2 days. I think carts would be OK once you find your flavor of choice, but in the beginning when you want to try different stuff, a tip is a good idea. Now I'm looking to see if all tips are created equal or if one is better than another. (any advice on this one guys?)

I think that's about all I've got.
 

Automaton

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Wait, wait, wait. While many of these things are true for most of us, they aren't for all.

I know vapers who have been vaping much longer than me who still don't like dripping, and who still use auto batts (the key is getting an auto with a vacuum switch - most have cheaper noise activated switches, which suck).

In my case, it took a huge lifestyle change to move me away from my Kr808's and cartos. And yes, I sometimes used autos. And when I used atties, I was perfectly content to use carts. I didn't like bothering with dripping.

When my head is really engaged and I'm challenged, I would smoke a lot more. Apparently I do the same with vaping. Which is what moved me to LR's, dripping, eGo's, and now mods. And that transition happened in a matter of a couple weeks.

But for the 4 months before that, when my life was a bit slow (as with many people who are struggling in the American economy), I had no problems with my Kr808's, cartos, autos, or even carts.

The simpler/less capable models weren't "not good enough." They didn't fit my new lifestyle.

So I think it's important to avoid generalizations. These smaller models may be a necessary stepping stone away from cigs for a lot of new vapers. Even if they don't stick with it, they just might not be as successful with a larger model.

If you can jump right to a more capable model, great. Not everyone can, or does. That's fine. We should focus on what the person is saying, and try to meet as many of those criteria as we can, while giving the most functionality. Compromise.
 
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trouble2k

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I completely agree with the fact that being able to drip to try out the different flavors and the eGo is the best choice. I also remember why I started looking at e-cigs in the first place. They were suppose to look and feel just like a real cigarette. Thus, I had to have the automatic w/ cartos. Many of us have found our "sweep spot" with the eGo or something similar. But, so many more have found their way to vaping and ECF by way of the "just like the real thing" cigs.

The eGo is what I found to keep me away from the nasties. But, the automatics are what started my journey.

BTW--I probably wouldn't bother with automatics once you've gotten used to the manual 510 versions. I've had two kits already. One has already been given away and I have an idea who will recieve the next one for their first adventure into the e-cig world.
 

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I think the general push for alot of members recommending the ego and riva has several reasons.

I think the most important factor is the deals on riva/ego kits currently, they are wonderful for people just beginning to vape.

Alot of us started with lower performing models, which were good in their own right, but made the jump because the price was so good. After our experience we tend to tell new members just to start with those models because of our experience.

By recommending "the next generation" models we are trying to make sure a prospective vaper gets the best experience they can to find if vaping is for them while starting with a kit they won't need to upgrade quickly.

So I do agree with Mistress Nomad when she says alot of us (I'm an offender here) give recommendations without listening to a posters needs. I probably still will strongly recommend riva/egos, but will offer them advice on PVs that have the qualities they want. It's just hard to be silent when you've walked down a road and want to save new vapers time and money. But, of course, I have to recognize that, sad as it may be, vaping is just not for everyone and some people just won't take to it.
 
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Automaton

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I think people who started with kr808 auto's have a better impression of auto's than most...even pressure based 510 auto's don't perform as well for me.

Yes indeed. My Kr808 auto was my best-performing by far.

But I've read that V4L is switching to noise-activated switches, which is a shame. :( I hope all Kr808 auto's aren't going that way. If they are, then Smoke Stik is the last good auto that's a decent e-cig, and they're kind of expensive.
 
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