Afib and Vaping. (Questions)

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Madcuzbad87

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Hey guys. My grandmother has afib and needs to quit smoking and wants to start vaping, since she has seen such an improvement in my overall well being (I was a 2 PAD smoker for 13 years, quit in July with 24mg juice, down to 3mg in my RDA's). She's concerned about vaping and her afib and if it's going to be an issue. I tried looking up info online, however it's a lot of propaganda articles referencing the formaldehyde bs. If anyone has any personal experiences with this or know someone has, Please let me know. If like to see her live a much longer life.

*side note* she can't use the patch because it can cause heart issues as well, as per the box warnings.
 

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Hi Madcuzbad. I have Mitral Valve Prolapse. Not sure how the comparison rates with afib. I can say that vaping has not caused my heart to have any extra problems. Just the "normal" once in a while blood flow back up into the heart, which then causes my heart to go a little bit nutso.

I have not seen an increase in the episodes. You really should be asking this of her doctor though.
 

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Here is some interesting points: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html

Cardiac dysrhythmia
- aka arrhythmia, irregular heartbeat, palpitations. These types of symptoms are a more serious version of the issues mentioned in para V4 above. They are a rare occurrence and have been noted in cases of extreme long-term nicotine overuse, especially with dual use of NRTs and smoking - for example in persons who smoked and also used nicotine skin patches excessively, or who chewed large quantities of nicotine gum. This type of symptom can also occur for some people as a result of nicotine overdose.

Some cardiac dysrhythmias may be serious, such as atrial fibrillation ('a-fib'). It would be wise to avoid behaviors that might lead to such conditions.

Because it is easy to over-use an e-cigarette since there are no immediate adverse effects, unlike smoking which produces sore lungs and throat, it may be possible for people to consume too much nicotine over an extended time period of months or years. It may be wise to consider this, and cut down on the nic strength if possible.

There is a group of people who show no signs whatsoever of nicotine overdose, no matter how much they consume and for how long. Perhaps such people are more at risk than others, because they receive no warnings of over-use; equally, they may be at less risk since nicotine clearly has less effect on them.

It is probably a good policy to gradually reduce the amount of nicotine consumed until the lowest level of acceptable efficacy is reached, instead of consuming high-strength nic without regard for the fact it may be far more than is needed for the desired results, and that it is a toxic substance when over-consumed and that perhaps cannot be taken in large quantities over time without issues. Most people experience some sort of warning that excess nicotine has been consumed, in exactly the same way excess coffee (or alcohol) affects them - the effect is not pleasant. However for some people there are no warnings at all that enough nicotine has been consumed. For this group, additional caution may be in order.

A section of the Forum that might be of interest: Health, Safety and Vaping
And this one too: The ECF Library
 

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My wife has Afib so I know a bit about it. If your grandmother is a smoker she will be far better off with vaping vs cigarettes. Not even going into all the health benefits of not having all the toxins in cigarette smoke especially the carbon monoxide which is now running about 17% thanks to the fire safety compliance "FSC" requirements in todays cigarettes. Before that law went into effect the carbon monoxide level was around the 3% level, but the lawmakers felt it was ok to treat millions of cigarette smokers as lab rats and place their health and well being in much greater jeopardy for the silly benefit of helping to prevent a few hundred house fires a year. Most of those house fire are caused by drunken idiots who fall asleep with lit cagarettes, but that was of no interest of the lawmakers because they really didnt and dont really care if smokers die at higher rates because of their damned "FSC" legislation. Millions of cig smokers are being made sick and/or dieing nowadays with lung and heart disease caused by the modern "FSC" cigarettes.

When I was still a cig smoker, within a couple months of the "FSC" cigs replacing all non fsc cigs available, it caused or exasperated a copd lung condition in myself, which forced me to roll my own cigs in order to avoid the dreaded "FSC" chemicals, as I was hopelessly addicted and could not stop smoking even though my lung condition wasn't getting any better. but, I digress...

Speaking of the Afib situation in your grandmother...
She would be getting away from the carbon monoxide which is one of the most detrimental issues of cigarettes. Carbon monoxide causes blood vessel cell death which gives a "tooth" or place for plaque to adhere to inside of the veins which leads to athrosclorosis(sp?) which can cause strokes and is, of course, a big concern in anyone having afib.

Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor, but in vaping would be far less than what she is exposing herself to when smoking cigarettes.
And if she were to switch to vaping instead of smoking, even without any intentions of ever quitting she would be a lot better off than continuing to smoke. However, if she is really serious about getting off the cigs altogether and/or really wants to satisfy her doctors suggestions, switching to vaping is the best gateway to breaking the habit forever since she will have full control of the nicotine intake and can taper it off in a much more controlled pace than trying to use other step down alternatives.

For most of us vapers, one of the best things about it is the ability to just get that few quick, satisfying and convenient hits without having to stink up the room or smoke an entire cigarette. Vaping gives us the satisfaction of the nic we want in a fast "smoke like" delivery method which takes care of that hand to mouth habit we long term smokers are so used to doing.

G ood luck helping your grandmother make the switch. Hopefully she can make the switch "cold turkey" straight to vaping like I did after over forty years of smoking. For me the best way was flat out quitting the cigs and not going back and forth between cigs and vaping which imho just gives that temptation to make the wrong choice instead of staying comitted to vaping INSTEAD of smoking.

HTH
 
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