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  1. ricksinvest

    ricksinvest Senior Member

    Aug 29, 2011
    Houston, TX
    Everyone,

    I have had only one anaolg in the past three weeks (about two weeks ago) and was cutting down a couple of weeks before that. Previously I smoked 2 1/2 packs a day of Marlboro 27's.

    My question is this, I'm still coughing up crud a little. Nothing compared to when I first quit but I still see black/brown gunk a little. When I wake up in the morning, my lungs still feel a little weak like when I smoked just way less and it is getting better all the time. I also don't cough constantly anymore and can breathe fully but it's obvious that my lungs are still cleaning out. For you heavy smokers (as I was) how long before all that stuff totally clears out? Does vaping have it's own symptoms that are similar if you vape a lot?
     
  2. Lil' Mama

    Lil' Mama Moved On ECF Veteran

    Aug 29, 2011
    U.S. Midwest
    First of all wanna say everyone is different, and reactions very. But for me long time smoker, and my husband the same. It took him about 5-6 weeks, and for me 4-5. But he could handle much more of a throat hit than I could. I actually was wondering if I was allergic to PG. But found for me at first to go with a milder flavor juice like raspberry lemonade for me. And I also think using a less powerful battery that doesn't get the cardo as hot has something to do with it too. But your seeing improvement and that's awesome and what matters. Our doc loves that we don't smoke anymore, and can see improvements, as can we. I haven't seen any bad symptoms from us, but I do still start off my mornings with my mild flavor raspberry lemonade before going to something with more throat hit.
    Hope that helps,
    Enjoy
     
  3. ricksinvest

    ricksinvest Senior Member

    Aug 29, 2011
    Houston, TX
    Five to six weeks make me feel better about this. I know it's improving for me, and I don't know what else I could expect after so many years of smoking I just want the analog effects out of my system NOW...

    Just need to be patient. Thanks
     
  4. cyberwolf

    cyberwolf Reviewer / Blogger ECF Veteran Verified Member

    Apr 22, 2009
    Coral Springs, FL
    I smoked closer to a pack a day, and it still took a few weeks for my lungs to start to feel better. The main indicator for me was wheezing, and that also took a few weeks to disappear. I haven't really noticed any of the same symptoms from vaping.
     
  5. Olef

    Olef Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 22, 2011
    UK
    37+ years smoking unfiltered hand rolled here. First three months was not at all unusual to cough up some crud. Getting much less now, only perhaps every 10 days/ 2 weeks, and then nothing like it was when smoking. I fully expect another month or two to be pretty cleared out. Yay!
     
  6. izabella

    izabella Super Member ECF Veteran

    Almost 25 years smoking, 2 months vaping, and I haven't coughed up any crud. I never coughed while smoking, either.

    So now I'm worried that my lungs aren't clearing anything out...I've killed them dead. Sigh. :?:
     
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  8. dormouse

    dormouse ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Oct 31, 2010
    Pennsylvania
    What nicotine level are you using and what is the PG/VG of your juice?

    Nicotine is a skin irritant. And 100% PG lets through the most flavor, most nicotine TH, and most nicotine irritation. People can get sore tongue, mouth, throat or even sore lungs. If you are using 100% PG juice buy some juice with some VG in it. For stuffing cartomizers I recommend 20% VG, for reservoir cartos or tanks try 20-30%, for standard atomizer I would try anything up to 50%. The VG will smooth the vape, cutting flavor and TH but also reducing irritation.

    If you are using extreme nicotine (over 24mg) consider cutting back while your lungs are bothering you. Even with 24mg, you could try some 18mg. If you want to try cutting down some of your current juice (will also cut flavor) get Wilton Glycerine from Michael's Craft (with the cake decorating stuff) or the Humco glycerin near the rubbing alcohol in Walmart - those are both vegetable. And maybe a pharmacy will sell you an empty eyedropper bottle. Cut down some of your juice in that by adding 10-20% VG.

    If you are vaping like a madman, try to cut back a bit. What I do is I leave my ecigs in another room instead of right next to me because if they are next to me I vape all the time.

    Also drink plenty of fluids - vaping can be very drying and dry mucus membranes get irritated. And some vitamins wouldn't hurt.

    And see your doctor if this is anything new.
     
  9. carpedebass

    carpedebass Ultra Member ECF Veteran Verified Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    The Alamo City
    Smoking has different effects on different people. Some people do not draw as hard as others and some people do not inhale as deeply as others. All these things could serve to affect people differently...along with different brands and strengths of analog.

    I never coughed anything up, but could tell withn a couple of days that my chest didn't feel nearly as heavy.
     
  10. ricksinvest

    ricksinvest Senior Member

    Aug 29, 2011
    Houston, TX
    I do about 70/30. The vaping isn't really irritating me I think this is just left over from the analogs. Like I said, three weeks isn't a long time and every symptom is a great reduction from when I smoked analogs.

    If after about two or three months of vaping only I'm still coughing up black crud (even in small amounts) I will go to the doctor.

    I need the throat hit though so I won't be getting too smooth very soon ;)
     
  11. ScottinSoCal

    ScottinSoCal Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 19, 2010
    ProVari Nirvana
    The only side effects I've noticed are all good. I posted this somewhere else recently, but it can go here, too:

    My company requires (and pays for) a complete physical every year. This year my physical was about ten weeks after I'd quit smoking and gone to vaping. One of the tests is lung function, and it measures your lung performance against standard population curves. My lungs now function as well as an 18 year old non-smoker, and I'm pushing 50. To be fair, the highest I ever scored on it, even when I smoked, was 28.
    Last physical my triglyceride levels were 205, and the company doctor scolded me. They should be below 150. This year they were 117. Last year my HDL/LDL cholesterol ratio put me at around 2.5 times normal risk for heart disease, this year I'm right at normal. Anecdotally, I don't get out of breath nearly as fast as I used to.

    The only change I've made is cutting out cigarettes - no diet changes, no exercise changes, nothing like that. Oh, and I weigh 10 lbs less than when I quit smoking. I'm almost the same size I was in high school, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
     
  12. izabella

    izabella Super Member ECF Veteran

    Interesting. I smoked American Spirits too.

    I don't have stuffy nose anymore, but I don't know to what extent my sense of smell and taste has improved. Maybe a minor change, but I don't feel like food tastes significantly different, nor have I suddenly started smelling stuff I couldn't smell before, nor are scents much stronger than before.
     
  13. swedishfish

    swedishfish Vaping Master ECF Veteran Verified Member

    Dec 28, 2010
    NJ
    "The makers of American Spirit, Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company, is owned by R.J. Reynolds, the world’s second largest tobacco company (behind Philip Morris), which also owns Camel, Winston, Salem, Kool, Pall Mall, other cigarette brands. Santa Fe operates as a wholly owned, independent subsidiary of RJR"

    Supposedly they have more tar and nicotine than regular cigarettes but not the same amount of additives. Since they're owned by R.J.Reynolds, I have my doubts about that. If a tobacco company told me it was raining, I'd check.

    I was RYO with American Spirit tobacco right before I started vaping and it killed my throat. Maybe because it was super strong. I did it because it was cheaper.


    I didn't really cough either, but I did work out a lot. It could be from that. I felt a little good about that until the doctor told me I wouldn't know the long term effects or if I'll have COPD for years.
     
  14. sup3rm2n

    sup3rm2n Full Member Verified Member

    Sep 8, 2011
    Singapore
    i think vaping is definitely better, without tar and carbon monoxide, and u do not smell back
     
  15. dal2whw

    dal2whw Full Member

    Sep 2, 2011
    Dallas
    I smoked 2 packs of analogs a day.Been smoking for 55 years.Started vaping last week.I haven't cough up anything but my chest doesn't feel real heavy at night like it use too.

    I got Humco VG at Walmart and mix it 80/20(distilled water).I did a mix of 4ml(my vg/h2o mix) 1 ml 24mg nic menthol and .5 ml distilled water. It vapes real good.I get a lot of vapor
     
  16. Huffelpuff

    Huffelpuff Vaping Master ECF Veteran Verified Member

    Aug 27, 2011
    Philadelphia Burbs
    Congratulations on your success! In my non-medical opinion, this is a sign that your body is working properly and clearing out your lungs. As far as analogs are concerned, my thoughts are that I will not ever look back or worry too much about the damage I've done. I'm doing all I can in this given moment to prevent further damage. My thoughts are that I would keep a close eye on your symptoms. If they progress or you become feverish or ill, see a doctor for a physical to rule out any problems.
     
  17. calico21

    calico21 Super Member ECF Veteran Verified Member

    My husband smoke since he was 8 yrs old quit 3 yrs ago and still gets yucky stuff once in awhile :( ,but not near as much/often anymore
     
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