After mucho reading.... I'm in. HELP!

[13F10]

Need some input from the experienced DIY'ers! I'm sure there are quite a few mistakes, stuff I don't need and various misconceptions

Back Story...
Wife & I smoked for 20+ years.
Got e-cigs Jan 1, been off them (tobacco) since

After 50 or so flavors purchased from most of the popular vendors, decided to look into DIY. After a few weeks of reading everything I could find, made the plunge.

I'll be making juice for 6 people, to include two other couples we convinced to try e-cigs and who are now converted as well.

I estimated 5 mls per, per day for the average.
4 of us prefer (all day vape) bakery stuff, one is exclusively fruit.
1 prefers tobacco flavors (not enough reading that yet, meantime she will be using a RY4)
Most like 3 or so flavor change-ups a day.
Most aren't concerned with pg/vg ratio, the wife and prefer mostly vg.

Based on the vendor flavors/strengths we've bought, everyone seems to be good at 12 to 18mg
2 want to get off nic, the rest don't, or don't care.

Sooo.....

Placed a few orders. Wanted to try different suppliers of nic and flavors.
I'll be storing the nic in amber glass bottles (freezer, read the in-depth storage thread, will be putting a lot of nic away for long term use. Assuming the shelf life is 2+ years as I've read, I'll probably have no less than 2 years worth on hand all the time. No telling what the gov/costs/availability will be. All the nic will be mixed down to either 12 or 18 with VG.

So here is a break-down of the orders. What am I missing? Is there additional info needed to answer that?
Any other base flavors I need?

BTW;
I guess the e-cigs used might help? 2 couples use ego's, I've since convinced them to use cartos (smok dual coil 1.7s and/or the 1.7 XLs) rather than the tank (ego-t). Wife uses an Icon v1.1 (prefers the ST DC 1.7's), I use a ProVari (mostly with the ST DC's as well). We trade off a Reo Mini as well. I'm the only one that cares to drip on occasion (iKen i06 & Cisco 306).

So I'll end this longer than intended ramble with the list. Thanks to the forum and especially the DIY'ers for all the great info here, this place rocks!

All of it is ordered and will be here this week Really looking forward to getting into it. Any help is very much appreciated!

Capelas 13 ml
Orange Creamsicle
Cinnamon Danish Swirl
Vanilla Custard x 2
Butter x 2
Pumpkin Pie Spice
Strawberries & Cream
Sweet Strawberry
New York Cheesecake
Coconut
Waffle
Peaches and Cream
Hot Cinnamon Candy
Vanilla Custard 4oz

TPA, 30 ml
Coconut
Green Apple
Menthol Liquid
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
English Toffee
Butterscotch
Bavarian Cream
Caramel - Original
French Vanilla
Belgian Waffle
Whipped Cream
Watermelon
Apple
Banana Cream
Blueberry Extra
Bubblegum Juicy Fruit
Caramel Candy
Cinnamon Redhots
Pear
Cotton Candy (sweetener, right?)

Nic & VG

[FONT=Arial, verdana, 'sans serif']Good Prophets
PG Unflavored 36mg Nic Base - 120ml x 4


Xtreme Vaping
PG Based 50mg - 500 ml
VG, 1500ml


MyFreedom Smokes
50/50 PG/VG based, 24 mg, 500 ml
VG, 1000ml

Bottles/supplies

Amber Glass Bottles:
10 - 60ml
10 - 250 ml (for pre-mixed/diluted nic base)
4 - 500 ml (for nic / vg long term storage)


Plastic Bottles
10 - 30 mil dropper
60 - 10 mil dropper
10 - 6ml dropper


Mixing Stuff
4 - Graduated Cylinders (10 ml)
4 - Mini measuring cup
5 - blunt 5cc, 16g, 3"
5 - blunt 10 cc, 16g, 3"
5 - 3ml pipette

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[AzPlumber]

Welcome to the world of DIY, you gonna have a blast. Nice start, you should be able to hit the floor running.
Cotton Candy is 10% Ethyl Maltol crystal in pg, used to round out flavors and mild sweetener.

Here are a few suggestion if you're asking. Just ask if you would like me to elaborate on any suggestion.

didn't see any plain pg - did i miss it?
more 5 thru 30ml plastic dropper bottles
1 ml syringe for flavors
TPA Sweetener
Ethyl Maltol Crystals
Marshmallow
Lorann Tart & Sour
Labels
Note Book
Patients

eta: e-liquid calculator

 

[my4jewels]

Wow, that looks like a great startup to me! Good luck!!

 

[Ghostrider]

well....that was a waste of money

 

[AzPlumber]

well....that was a waste of money

Huh?

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

Need some input from the experienced DIY'ers! I'm sure there are quite a few mistakes, stuff I don't need and various misconceptions

Back Story...
Wife & I smoked for 20+ years.
Got e-cigs Jan 1, been off them (tobacco) since

After 50 or so flavors purchased from most of the popular vendors, decided to look into DIY. After a few weeks of reading everything I could find, made the plunge.

I'll be making juice for 6 people, to include two other couples we convinced to try e-cigs and who are now converted as well.

I estimated 5 mls per, per day for the average.
4 of us prefer (all day vape) bakery stuff, one is exclusively fruit.
1 prefers tobacco flavors (not enough reading that yet, meantime she will be using a RY4)
Most like 3 or so flavor change-ups a day.
Most aren't concerned with pg/vg ratio, the wife and prefer mostly vg.

Based on the vendor flavors/strengths we've bought, everyone seems to be good at 12 to 18mg
2 want to get off nic, the rest don't, or don't care.

Sooo.....

Placed a few orders. Wanted to try different suppliers of nic and flavors.
I'll be storing the nic in amber glass bottles (freezer, read the in-depth storage thread, will be putting a lot of nic away for long term use. Assuming the shelf life is 2+ years as I've read, I'll probably have no less than 2 years worth on hand all the time. No telling what the gov/costs/availability will be. All the nic will be mixed down to either 12 or 18 with VG.

So here is a break-down of the orders. What am I missing? Is there additional info needed to answer that?
Any other base flavors I need?

BTW;
I guess the e-cigs used might help? 2 couples use ego's, I've since convinced them to use cartos (smok dual coil 1.7s and/or the 1.7 XLs) rather than the tank (ego-t). Wife uses an Icon v1.1 (prefers the ST DC 1.7's), I use a ProVari (mostly with the ST DC's as well). We trade off a Reo Mini as well. I'm the only one that cares to drip on occasion (iKen i06 & Cisco 306).

So I'll end this longer than intended ramble with the list. Thanks to the forum and especially the DIY'ers for all the great info here, this place rocks!

All of it is ordered and will be here this week Really looking forward to getting into it. Any help is very much appreciated!

Capelas 13 ml
Orange Creamsicle
Cinnamon Danish Swirl
Vanilla Custard x 2
Butter x 2
Pumpkin Pie Spice
Strawberries & Cream
Sweet Strawberry
New York Cheesecake
Coconut
Waffle
Peaches and Cream
Hot Cinnamon Candy
Vanilla Custard 4oz

TPA, 30 ml
Coconut
Green Apple
Menthol Liquid
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
English Toffee
Butterscotch
Bavarian Cream
Caramel - Original
French Vanilla
Belgian Waffle
Whipped Cream
Watermelon
Apple
Banana Cream
Blueberry Extra
Bubblegum Juicy Fruit
Caramel Candy
Cinnamon Redhots
Pear
Cotton Candy (sweetener, right?)

Nic & VG

[FONT=Arial, verdana, 'sans serif']Good Prophets
PG Unflavored 36mg Nic Base - 120ml x 4


Xtreme Vaping
PG Based 50mg - 500 ml
VG, 1500ml


MyFreedom Smokes
50/50 PG/VG based, 24 mg, 500 ml
VG, 1000ml

Bottles/supplies

Amber Glass Bottles:
10 - 60ml
10 - 250 ml (for pre-mixed/diluted nic base)
4 - 500 ml (for nic / vg long term storage)


Plastic Bottles
10 - 30 mil dropper
60 - 10 mil dropper
10 - 6ml dropper


Mixing Stuff
4 - Graduated Cylinders (10 ml)
4 - Mini measuring cup
5 - blunt 5cc, 16g, 3"
5 - blunt 10 cc, 16g, 3"
5 - 3ml pipette

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Wow! I'm speechless!
First of all, I want to say thank you! I almost didn't open this thread coz I've had a less than stellar day and expected another 'I want to do diy so what should I buy' thread...which is ok, but you know You've actually done some reading first, and thank you!

Your list looks...fantastic! I see some things that I would want a lot more of (for myself alone, not mentioning mixing for that many ppl!) but you'll figure that out as you go. We all have different styles and preferences (syringes/pipettes for flavors, glass/plastic etc) so once you figure that out you'll know...
I would suggest however, however many bottles you think you need...get more

And for crying out loud, have fun! Ask questions, read some more, and don't get discouraged...it takes time. I expect to be asking you questions in no time. Welcome

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

........
Patients

Is the op a doctor? I missed that part

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

arrrrrghhhhh! It's doing the double post thing again! sorry

 

[Iffy]

Nice list!

From my experience mixing mostly 30ml final batches, ya might want to purchase more of the larger (30ml & 60ml) dripper bottles. Since you'll be mixing for six people, be sure to keep your >100ml plastic bottles for your most common final jooses. My 120ml PV and VG bottles are indispensable!

 

[canoeist]

I would also suggest a 50 and/or 100 ml graduated cylinder. I do a lot of measuring with the 10ml cylinder, then pour into a 50ml.

 

[frequentj]

I know my next purchase is going to include some larger-sized squeeze bottles I can keep my pg/vg base in. It's way neater to be able to dispense from a 60-120 mL squeeze bottle than a 250-500 mL, etc container.

 

[Iffy]

It's way neater to be able to dispense from a 60-120 mL squeeze bottle than a 250-500 mL, etc container.

Oh so true, great point! ABSOLUTELY keep your larger ml bottle 'flip top' caps also. I even transfer my more popular flavs into 60ml bottles and use the 'flip tops' for clean and easy large batches.

 

[13F10]

Welcome to the world of DIY, you gonna have a blast. Nice start, you should be able to hit the floor running.
Cotton Candy is 10% Ethyl Maltol crystal in pg, used to round out flavors and mild sweetener.

Here are a few suggestion if you're asking. Just ask if you would like me to elaborate on any suggestion.

didn't see any plain pg - did i miss it?
So I'm thinking; the nic base is pg,with vg added, 12% or so flavor, it's still got a lot of pg in it. Example, 36mg base nic at 18mg: comes out to 50% PG, 38% VG. Flavor is also pg, so that about a 60/40 mix if I'm thinking right?
more 5 thru 30ml plastic dropper bottles
1 ml syringe for flavors
TPA Sweetener
Ethyl Maltol Crystals
Marshmallow
marshmallow also for sweetening?
Lorann Tart & Sour
Labels
Note Book
Yes to the above! Excellent, thank you.
Patients
I refer to them as victims.

eta: e-liquid calculator

Thanks for the reply!

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

Ohhhhh...I just noticed that 4 oz van custard...you are so wise! Honestly!
I would also suggest a couple of larger sized syringes...20 ml, 50 ml...even bigger.
Good for mixing larger batches, esp. when mixing nic.

 

[AzPlumber]

Thanks for the reply!

Originally Posted by AzPlumber
Welcome to the world of DIY, you gonna have a blast. Nice start, you should be able to hit the floor running.
Cotton Candy is 10% Ethyl Maltol crystal in pg, used to round out flavors and mild sweetener.

Here are a few suggestion if you're asking. Just ask if you would like me to elaborate on any suggestion.

didn't see any plain pg - did i miss it?
So I'm thinking; the nic base is pg,with vg added, 12% or so flavor, it's still got a lot of pg in it. Example, 36mg base nic at 18mg: comes out to 50% PG, 38% VG. Flavor is also pg, so that about a 60/40 mix if I'm thinking right?
pg is also used for extractions (coffee, cocoa, Cinnamon, ect) and dilutions (EM & Menthol Crystals)
more 5 thru 30ml plastic dropper bottles
1 ml syringe for flavors
TPA Sweetener this would be a must have for me
Ethyl Maltol Crystals
Marshmallow
marshmallow also for sweetening? Yes and mouth feel
Lorann Tart & Sour see vinegar thread regarding acids
Labels
Note Book
Yes to the above! Excellent, thank you.
Patients
I refer to them as victims.

eta: e-liquid calculator

Don't be a stranger and let us know your great recipes.

 

[Hoosier]

Amazingly well researched start. I'm giving you a golf clap now

+1 on the 1ml syringes and the other unicorn tears and butterfly fart type components.

 

[13F10]

Thanks again for the comments/help everyone.
Based on these I updated the orders.

Added

TPA
Marshmallow
Sweet Cream
Sweetener

Doubled down on the 10's & 30's added 60 3's (haven't found 5's?)
Syringes (30 mil)
a 250 mil beaker
2 ea 50 & 100 mil plastic beakers
5 60 ml plastic bottles w/spout caps
5 250 ml plastic bottles w/ spout caps

Went ahead and ordered another 500 mls of MFS nic at 50mg (pg/vg) to put away.

Fortunately, I'm not paying for all this alone! It's already double our previous monthly budget for smokes, lol.

Thanks again.

 

[vittiv]

I second the suggestions to get larger graduated cylinders and extra PG.

The cylinders are a great tool once you get your recipes figured out. If you're making bakery juices for several of these people, you'll come to love some big cylinders.

I started off thinking I wouldn't need much PG, but I was wrong... It comes in handy more than you can anticipate. Also, if you buy your nic at 100mg you can fit more of it in your freezer, but that requires PG for diluting.

 

[Bostonsnboxers]

Ya, it can be tough in the beginning...there's just so much to get, but after a bit you'll be all set for awhile

 

[frequentj]

Ya, it can be tough in the beginning...there's just so much to get, but after a bit you'll be all set for awhile

So true! I'm just getting into it myself and I've already spent over $120 in a little over a week, probably (about what I'd spend on juice in 3 months), but like you said, the vast majority of these purchases are items that should last you quite a while, if not virtually forever in some cases.