My first go with a rebuildable. I have a perfect coil. Glows bright red and even until the wick is inserted. Then it barely gets red if at all. Vapor is weak as you can imagine. Not sure what the problem is. I oxidized the mesh really well and dipped it in water. Put some juice on it and burned it. It's wicking the juice well but vapes poorly. Hopefully someone can offer some suggestions. Thanks!
Aga-T2+ poor results- HELP!
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More info would help... what type of mesh, solid or straw wick, ohms of the coil, wire gauge, volts you're pushing through it, type of PV you're using - mechanical/VV/VW?
A coil with juice shouldn't get red. Red is bad.
Could be as simple as not getting enough juice to the coil. Or, it could be that you're shorting at the top or bottom and the coil's not getting any current.
Could be as simple as not getting enough juice to the coil. Or, it could be that you're shorting at the top or bottom and the coil's not getting any current.
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Just tossing things out here... It's possible your 28ga may not be "responsive" enough for the eVic. I've found that 28ga works better on my mechanical mods than on my VV/VW mods. Have you tried wrapping a coil with 30ga?
Agree with CountSmackula. 28ga is THICK, and takes time and power to heat up. I just myself wrapped a 28ga 1.5ohm coil, (9 wraps, on 500mesh), last night. It barely glows on a dry wick at 4volts. However, at 5.5 to 6 volts, it is a monster. High wrap 28ga coils require a lot of power to fire well. At 6 volts, I get a great vape, (which is 24 watts!), with no burning or off flavors....but dropping it down to 4 volts means it takes a good 5+ seconds just to get warm.
Up your gauge.
Up your gauge.
I'd recommend you try 32 awg for your first RBA build.
Also, you might have over done it with trying to oxidize your wick. I don't quench in water, nor do I do a final burn in juice. You could have residual water in your wick (only slight possibility) or you might have clogged the external surface of your wick with the burnt juice (more likely).
Check YouTube for build videos. If you want to get something up and running quickly, search for the "Bluegrasslover cotton" wick method. Basically, his method is to put a light coating of cotton over the surface of the mesh wick where the coils would normally touch. This is what I turn to when I need to bust out an RBA build in a hurry and don't have time to "fiddle". Just be aware that you can't dry burn your mesh wick when you have applied cotton to it.
Also, you might have over done it with trying to oxidize your wick. I don't quench in water, nor do I do a final burn in juice. You could have residual water in your wick (only slight possibility) or you might have clogged the external surface of your wick with the burnt juice (more likely).
Check YouTube for build videos. If you want to get something up and running quickly, search for the "Bluegrasslover cotton" wick method. Basically, his method is to put a light coating of cotton over the surface of the mesh wick where the coils would normally touch. This is what I turn to when I need to bust out an RBA build in a hurry and don't have time to "fiddle". Just be aware that you can't dry burn your mesh wick when you have applied cotton to it.
As the easiest fix,my first guess would be top cap hole/wick alignment.My next guess would be 28ga. kanth is the issue.All the above posts are good guesses and any of them could be your problem.The good news is u have power to the +/- post,the rest is just a matter of fiddling around.
Thanks! I was thinking it was the wire. The wick seems good. I meant to order a higher gauge along with the 28 but didn't and it was too late. I'll have to wait until my next order and will get some 30 and 32. 
Thanks! I was thinking it was the wire. The wick seems good. I meant to order a higher gauge along with the 28 but didn't and it was too late. I'll have to wait until my next order and will get some 30 and 32.
Why wait? Get some on ebay. 8-10ish bucks shipped for 100 feet.
30 - Kanthal A1 Wire 30 Gauge 100 ft 0 39oz Resistance Resistor AWG A 1 | eBay
32 - Kanthal A1 Wire 32 Gauge 100 ft 0 25oz Resistance Resistor AWG A 1 | eBay
what are you vaping this set-up on. dont know of a vv device that allows 24 watts
Damn, seems like my post didn't take.
VAMO V2. VW mode only goes to 15 watts. But it has a 5 amp limit and a minimum ohm rating of 1.2, and runs up to 6 volts. So in VV mode, at 6 volts, with a 1.2 ohm coil, it's pushing 5 amps at 30 watts. I run at 5.7V, 1.5 ohm, for ~22 watts, typically.
Nevermind...Someone already answered this question. Just saw it. I will update with results when I try with some 30.
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thats some serious wattage, i have always prefered low resistant coils on my gennys, 28g 1.1 ohm or under. and on all my genesis devices it usually is about a 4 to 5 wrap. at most i vape this around 13 watts on the provari. from time to time i will try a higher resistance coil and higher volts just to see what would be the difference and every time i do, i get a harshness to the vape, not a burnt taste, but just a burning sensation in the throat, and the vapor seems to get darker and less dense, but these higher resistant coils were always done with thinner wire than i use, like i said i always use 28g, so to get a higher resistant coil i tried 30 and 32, because i never tried to get more wraps of 28. so maybe its the thinner wire that was giving the vapor a burning feeling. so after trying these higher resistant coils, i could never understand why people raved about pushing up the volts, to me a 1.0 ohm coil @ 3.6 volts blew the higher resistant coil away. but like i said i never have tried to make a 1.5ish coil of 28g wire and tried upping the voltage. so using your device, you can make a 1.2 ohm coil and vape it at 6volts? thats crazy.
With a quick and dirty multimeter test, I'm starting to think my vamo and it's specs are lying to me. I'll do more testing to see if it's really pushing that much.
i know with the provari, it has a 15 watts limit or 3.5 amps. from what i have heard on this is basically whatever comes first is a cut off, it will not produce anything over 15 watts nor 3.5 amps. i absolutely have no idea with the vamo, so i do not know.but it would seem that the 5 amps would be wasted if you cannot exceed 15 watts. i just wrapped a 28g 1.5ohm coil @ 5.0volts & 15watts, max on provari. what i noticed is because of the 7 wraps you get a delay compared to a lesser wraped coil, its just a little bit more unresponsive. also the device gets hotter, and the vapor gets alot hotter, also the throat hit is much more intense, for me its definately to the point of being like i said before harsh, but if a hotter vape and intense throat hit is what you want then this set-up is the one. now you would think with more volts and amps you would get more vapor, i didnt see it. to me the amount of vapor in a 1.0 ohm 4 wrap 28g @3.6 volts is no different to a 28g 7 wrap 1.5ohm coil @5.0volts. finally the taste of the lower resistant coil imo was better, i definately believe that more turns of wire on a ss mesh wick at higher volts produces a more metalic taste. you might say it could be from a poorly wicking wick, i use 500 mesh, and wicks like crazy. maybe a gravity wick of 270 or 325, with a big center hole might produce different results. i dont know, everyone is different, and have different results, there is no right or wrong way for sure. but i have tried so many different set-ups in the past 8 months and every time i find the best vape at definately 28g, no doubt the best flavor out of any of the wires that i have tried(28,30,32,36). also 1.1 ohm to 0.08 ohms at voltages between 3.3 to 3.8 ish, imo it is more mellow when talking about throat hit, but a thick vapor with max flavor.
Yah, my quick and dirty test was popping the bottom cap and trying my multimeter in amp mode, connecting the battery neg to the VAMO case. I got 4.76 amps. Obviously there's efficiency loss, so then I popped the AGA off the top and pushed the case of the AGA against the vamo case and did my best to connect the pos posts with the multimeter in amp mode...got 2.75 amps or something.
I want to rig up a setup to let me hook the AGA and VAMO together with leads in between that I can meter from....but the other thing nagging at me is I know the VAMO is using PWM, and I know that PWM is often misread by digital multimeters.
So hell if I know. Seems dumb to state 5 amp limit if it's impossible to hit with the 15 watt limit, (15 watts at 5 amps is 3 volts, which would necessitate a 0.6 ohm coil...which the vamo obviously won't fire), but when in China....
see for me , with the provari a 5 amp limit would be great. i love a 4 wrap with 28g, giving me a resistance of about 0.08ohms, i would love to vape this at maybe 14 watts, but a 0.08 coil is amped out at around 10 watts, but if the provari had a 5 amp limit, i could vape my 0.08 ohm coil @ 3.5v to be at 15watts. but for now the max wattage, max amps on the provari equals about a 1.2 ohm coil at around 4.1volts, although its a great vape, i do prefer around 12 to 13 watts, i have found a 1.0 to 1.1 ohm at 3.6 ish to be my sweet spot. but i still would like to try a 0.08 coil at 15 watts, but that is still way under 4 volts, i seem to prefer high watts at low volts, it just seems to me when you vape hi watts and hi volts the vape suffers somehow.
you can set the vamo to rms mode, actually i think it is the preferred setting.
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