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[Mr.Mann]

Congrats. You can probably start stocking up supplies a little better once you know. Let the baby shopping officially begin

Exactly! That is really the only reason why we want to know -- even though we will be doing mostly gender neutral things. The bottom line is that some things, like barrettes, ain't all that gender neutral! LOL

 

[Mr.Mann]

Double post.

 

[Mr.Mann]

And just thinking of the day my son was born and now, on Thursday, he will be moving to Florida on a new endeavor - I can only say to cherish every moment with your little one - I can't begin to tell you how fast it goes. I started very young - had both children by the time I was 18, and now my daughter is 30, married and has given me a beautiful grandson. My son has taken the slow road but still good non-the-less (served in the U.S. Marines) back in 2000, and now moving away - for good reasons but it's breaking my heart to have him far from me - my family and extended family are VERY close, and for one of the crew to be moving away is a big deal!

So again, I implore you to make the best of every minute when you child-to-be - you will blink and he/she will be grown!

I will take these words to heart.

 

[Zack nash]

I am vaping SC right now and this juice (no news here) is so dadgum good! Hey Mo, this is a 12 mg SC and to be honest, I barely recognize the difference between this and most other 18 mg juices. A+ uses A+ nicotine! Is there a difference between this and the 24 mg SC? Yes, but but as much as you'd think. I am not left wanting.

Thats good the hear, My first bottle of SC was 18 but I ordered 12 this time because I was vaping so much of it I kept giving myself a headache hard to put this one down.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

I think it's all about what you put on it. My atties never read any differently from my ProVari meter to a meter. However, the few times I tried to work with Ce(#)s,ViVis, Genesi and RBAs, I was adjusting that the ProVari like mad .

I had a 1.5 ohm Cisco Spec that started giving me ridiculous burning hits on a fixed-voltage device. I finally checked the ohms and it had worked its way down to 1.2 over the course of about three weeks! It can happen to the best of 'em.

Congrats on your upcoming baby news! Whew, I bet you're on pins and needles!

 

[Mr.Mann]

I had a 1.5 ohm Cisco Spec that started giving me ridiculous burning hits on a fixed-voltage device. I finally checked the ohms and it had worked its way down to 1.2 over the course of about three weeks! It can happen to the best of 'em.

Congrats on your upcoming baby news! Whew, I bet you're on pins and needles!

Dadgum attys! Though that has never happened to me -- of course I've gotten as many duds (probably) as I have work horses.

p.s. Thanks.

 

[Moueix]

Exactly! That is really the only reason why we want to know -- even though we will be doing mostly gender neutral things. The bottom line is that some things, like barrettes, ain't all that gender neutral! LOL

I wouldn't have believed 20 years ago that a day would soon come that I would go to slam a coffee in an auto cup holder, and feel real horror that I almost ruined some adorable little hair trinket that is one of MY favorites...

 

[Moueix]

Well, I have nothing on Mr. Mann, but my juice ships tomorrow, and I have a substantial test of my crews skills 600 miles away. If all goes well, Wednesday at 5pm that juice will be in my mailbox, and several hours later, my hand will join them.

 

[new kid]

The one thing I would add is any delivery system will vary over time. Out of the box a x.x ohm device may be off by a few. Over time it typically changes resistance. Using a VW will automatically adjust for it since it is checking the device on every vape thereby keeping it consistent to to the set wattage.

Neither one is perfect. I have got a ProVari and a Legacy with a Kick module. They are both great devices, just different. The ProVari takes more fiddling.

For me, VW never really had much of an appeal (at least trumping my ProVari). I only use two separate ohm ratings, while one barely gets used (1.5 ohm), or I will spend an entire day with one type of ohm. A VW, while always keeping the wattage consistent, doesn't necessarily mean that any JDS will taste the same because some JDSs will not taste good at certain temps, so that would mean adjusting, which is the same adjusting that a VV would entail. Now if you're someone who has a ton of JDSs with varying ohms ratings, and in turn, use them frequently, then maybe it would be nice. If you are someone who, like me, likes no more than two attys, or more specifically, two types of ohm ratings, then it is not going to provide you with a more consistent vape than a high-end (not like a lavatube) VV.

I am not comparing any one VW and VV device per se, just the effect of VW as opposed to VV. Also, once again, I am only talking high-end VV. One plus (actually, a HUGE plus!) with the Darwin DNA or The Kick, is that you can upgrade many big batt devices to act as a Darwin (though with less range in watts).

 

[new kid]

But that is the whole point behind VW. With VV you have to constantly factor for the device, with the VW it does it for you. The way it works is the actual setting you are trying to hit with the VV adjustments is to get to the wattage which is a factor of the voltage and the resistance. VW does the math for you. Its not perfect but from experience once I found the wattage that worked for me my Legend has not needed a single adjustment for anything - juice or device.

VW doesn't hold any appeal to me either. If I just vaped one juice maybe, but I vape a lot of different flavors, so I don't really see the point in VW over VV. I'd be changing the watts all the time just like I change volts now.

 

[new kid]

In this scenario, VW is KING (or better yet, the Kick or Darwin DNA is KING)! The Darwin has a ton of great features, but aesthetics it does not. But, to be able to transform mech mods into a Darwin brain, but with a beautiful body, that is sweet!

The Darwin is ugly and not very functional. Plus it you cannot swap out batteries which to me is a big negative.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

The Darwin is ugly and not very functional. Plus it you cannot swap out batteries which to me is a big negative.

I thought it was ugly until I saw one in person (MarcK's). While I don't think it's for me, I do think it's an acquired taste, and it's got a certain charm! It's built like a tank and the LED screen is really nice too, as is the scroll-wheel for adjusting the wattage.

I'm with you though, on the Kick wattage settings, NK. I have found very few juices that aren't at their best at my 9 watt setting (and I certainly haven't found any I can't live without). For those, I just throw them on an eGo batt or Twist and crank the volts way down, because they aren't very good on my fixed voltage set-ups either.

 

[gthompson]

But that is the whole point behind VW. With VV you have to constantly factor for the device, with the VW it does it for you. The way it works is the actual setting you are trying to hit with the VV adjustments is to get to the wattage which is a factor of the voltage and the resistance. VW does the math for you. Its not perfect but from experience once I found the wattage that worked for me my Legend has not needed a single adjustment for anything - juice or device.

We vape very differently then.

 

[Mr.Mann]

For those that use VW: I am in the process of breaking in a new atty (essentially breaking in a new coil) and while there are some attys that require no break in, most do. When you get a new coil and or atty, do you hit it with the same wattage that you will use for a broken in coil? Last night when I was vaping SC, DD and BGB, I realized that while BGB and DD were fine/awesome at 4.9, SC was a little reckless and needed to be at 4.8 -- I am talking the same atty.

p.s. GT was talking about juices at different temps, not different JDSs. While I still consider myself in a set-it and forget-about-it arena, I do occasionally need to adjust .1-.2 depending on the juice, but it's about as easy as counting to 5. Different tokes for different folks.

A+: Has anyone gotten CPBT profiled? I am thinking of getting it with extra pear. I was curious how you all thought that might turn out? Actually, not just CPBT, but I think I want to really explore more with the black tea base -- it seems to be a clear winner for a helluva good vape.

 

[EleanorR]

A+: Has anyone gotten CPBT profiled? I am thinking of getting it with extra pear. I was curious how you all thought that might turn out? Actually, not just CPBT, but I think I want to really explore more with the black tea base -- it seems to be a clear winner for a helluva good vape.

Awesome!! I too toyed with the idea of "more pear, please", but was afraid to mess with such magnificence!

Blaze the trail for us, oh Leading Mann, and let us know what you think!

 

[gthompson]

Maybe I'm just weird... OK, we all know there's no maybe.... but I just hate messing with a vendor's recipe. The few times I've asked for more this or that in a juice it always seemed to make it worse and not better.

 

[EleanorR]

Maybe I'm just weird... OK, we all know there's no maybe.... but I just hate messing with a vendor's recipe. The few times I've asked for more this or that in a juice it always seemed to make it worse and not better.

Face it, you're just a lousy cook.

 

[new kid]

Totally agree, gthompson. That is also why I have a Provari and a VW mod. In my opinion neither one is the perfect pv, IMHO. Both are excellent in their own right. I use both of them every day.

We vape very differently then.

 

[new kid]

Ok, you got me thinking. Another factor that we could consider is the users preference in settings. People use the same JDS but at different voltages/watts. So, if the persons desired setting is right on the borderline of the high end of the settings for the JDS/juice pairing then tweaking may be needed between liquids. If it is not close it slight variations in settings may not have a noticeable impact on the vape quality.

Just a thought. So now I am curious, what was the ohm reading of the atty when breaking it in?

In theory, this might explain something about why VW might not work as well for everyone.

For those that use VW: I am in the process of breaking in a new atty (essentially breaking in a new coil) and while there are some attys that require no break in, most do. When you get a new coil and or atty, do you hit it with the same wattage that you will use for a broken in coil? Last night when I was vaping SC, DD and BGB, I realized that while BGB and DD were fine/awesome at 4.9, SC was a little reckless and needed to be at 4.8 -- I am talking the same atty.

p.s. GT was talking about juices at different temps, not different JDSs. While I still consider myself in a set-it and forget-about-it arena, I do occasionally need to adjust .1-.2 depending on the juice, but it's about as easy as counting to 5. Different tokes for different folks.

A+: Has anyone gotten CPBT profiled? I am thinking of getting it with extra pear. I was curious how you all thought that might turn out? Actually, not just CPBT, but I think I want to really explore more with the black tea base -- it seems to be a clear winner for a helluva good vape.

 

[gthompson]

Don't get me wrong, VW would work just fine for me, but it would be no different from VV with my vaping style. I'd still be adjusting it all the time. I don't have any problem with VW, it's a great feature, but I have all the mods I need and no desire to buy another just to get VW.