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Moueix

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Thus far I am distinctly unimpressed, to say the least. If this stuff isn't ten times more gratifying than Chateau Margaux, I think it's safe to say that I'll be forgoing the rare and magical Ahlusion experience for the foreseeable future.

imho, think Petrus or LaFleur. Above First Growth. Paul Pontallier has NOTHING on Wlad Foo. I consider it the... uh, Sine Qua Non of my vape Cellar. So, what'd you order?

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LOL :)

I like your style, Moueix. (I can't quite believe the seriousness with which people seem to approach this particular vender. It's really very odd to me.)

Anyway, I ordered a strawberry cake that people seem to like; something with "serenity" in the name; a bowl of oatmeal and . . . a couple other things. It's been so long I've forgotten.
 

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LOL :)

I like your style, Moueix. (I can't quite believe the seriousness with which people seem to approach this particular vender. It's really very odd to me.)

Anyway, I ordered a strawberry cake that people seem to like; something with "serenity" in the name; a bowl of oatmeal and . . . a couple other things. It's been so long I've forgotten.

Thanks Kropotkin. Do you know how long I waited and how many people I had to kill to get on the Sine Qua Non list? Just like wine, the best is usually small production, limited availability, wait your darn turn and pay through the nose. Ahlusion doesn't make you pay through the nose. I'm DRIVEN in the pursuit of the pinnacle of all things. You know when you've found it. Like Tyleris, I haven't bought another vendors juice since my first order of this came.

I'm lukewarm on the Strawberry Vanilla Cake, I don't like cake type vapes. "Serenity" is probably Sweet Surrender and it is very good, Oatmeal, I do not do....
Seriously, they have 150 flavors, something for EVERYone. I have yet to have anything that WASN'T good, but my top 3 favorites are Kona Kick with chocolate, J.G. Blend (a smooth tobacco with coffee, and I used to HATE tobacco vapes), and Fijian Nights (Cream, Coconut, Banana, Pineapple, sugarcane, vanilla and some realllly exotic spices). YMMV.
 

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I reread the Order Policy again and finally noticed an "or" I previously interpreted as an "and".

Any order including Ahlusion E-Liquid (not including XPress line e-liquid) is processed within 3 - 5 business days and in the event an order is delayed, you will be notified or your order will be cancelled and refunded in full."

Looking forward to receiving my order. I feel the pain of the others posting here so frustrated with adding a new account and placing the order during "open" hours. It is an understandable business decision to limit orders to capacity, and to limit new accounts and better serve the existing customer base.
 

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IMHO the hype outweighs the actual product. I jumped through the hype hoop, placed a couple of orders and found the wait time and communication acceptable. The juice was good to above average, I've had better and much much worse. I'm afraid I'm not a loyal customer so that should free up another registration spot. It seems that some of the "gourmet" vendors just get too popular too fast and simply can't keep up......mostly due to exposure on this forum.
 

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Moueix said:
I'm DRIVEN in the pursuit of the pinnacle of all things. You know when you've found it. Like Tyleris, I haven't bought another vendors juice since my first order of this came.
I understand and respect connoisseurship, I think. (I'm an academic in the Humanities, and nuance is what we do best.)

And who knows? Maybe Serenity or Surrender or whatever it is will change my entire world in a nanosecond, and I will instantly forget to wonder why such a wildly successful company is somehow unable to hire an adequate staff . . . oh well. Mustn't quibble.

In any event, I sincerely wish you the best.

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wonder why such a wildly successful company is somehow unable to hire an adequate staff

Perhaps because it's a relatively young company in a relatively young -- and rapidly changing -- business. It would be foolish to hire staff that it might have to let go in less than a year. With potential government regulation looming, many would agree that a conservative approach is best, for now.

Besides, providing e-liquid directly to customers is only part of what Ahlusion does.
 

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I don't mean to be negative; its just that I've been trying to order for months. I wanted that Boba Tea with honeydew as I'm addicted to the actual drink. :) I also wanted to try their Kentucky Tobacco. I'm extra frustrated because they never even opened today. I sat at the computer, refreshing constantly for over 3 hours! I don't mind waiting, but it would be nice to at least get to place the order or even register. Maybe someday I'll be able to experience some Ahlusion juice. :)
 

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Perhaps because it's a relatively young company in a relatively young -- and rapidly changing -- business. It would be foolish to hire staff that it might have to let go in less than a year. With potential government regulation looming, many would agree that a conservative approach is best, for now.

Besides, providing e-liquid directly to customers is only part of what Ahlusion does.

I can say, unequivocally, that the hiring problem is the ability of the applicant to meet Wlad's very high standards. It is happening, but VERY slowly. The operation is not an assembly line, it is a laboratory. The credentials for mixing is "flavor chemist" and if you think that is anywhere close to "basket weaver", google it. The described salary alone will give you a clue as to the demand, and supply.
 
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I don't mean to be negative; its just that I've been trying to order for months. I wanted that Boba Tea with honeydew as I'm addicted to the actual drink. :) I also wanted to try their Kentucky Tobacco. I'm extra frustrated because they never even opened today. I sat at the computer, refreshing constantly for over 3 hours! I don't mind waiting, but it would be nice to at least get to place the order or even register. Maybe someday I'll be able to experience some Ahlusion juice. :)

Your fustration is understandable and I do hope you get the chance to try them sometime soon! What mg do you vape, if you don't mind my asking?
 

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I understand and respect connoisseurship, I think. (I'm an academic in the Humanities, and nuance is what we do best.)

And who knows? Maybe Serenity or Surrender or whatever it is will change my entire world in a nanosecond, and I will instantly forget to wonder why such a wildly successful company is somehow unable to hire an adequate staff . . . oh well. Mustn't quibble.

In any event, I sincerely wish you the best.

:)

As a fellow academic on the poorly-funded side of campus, I respect your standpoint. Let me give you my take on Ahlusion's customer volume limitations and put it this way -- would a great author hire ghost writers just to keep up with demand? Would a great painter expand her workshop in order to sell more paintings? The sense I get is that Wlad excels at and enjoys creating new flavors and building relationships with customers -- these aren't discrete practices for him, and he is able to understand and predict customers' flavor preferences based on correspondence. While I sympathize with people who have trouble placing orders, I have to applaud his efforts to maintain quality control over his product and develop personal and interactive customer service in the age of mechanical reproduction.
 

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But we're not talking about Virginia Woolf, Comrade Tezcatlipoca. We're talking about little bottles of flavored nicotine.

Surely it's possible to get just a bit too precious about all this?

. . . in the age of mechanical reproduction.
But please tell me this is Walter Benjamin reference! (I'm a Critical Theorist - at the very epicenter of "the underfunded side of campus.")
 

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We're talking about little bottles of flavored nicotine.

You could say wine is just "bottles of fermented grape juice", but it's obviously a lot more to someone who's into wine. Some people get into ejuice the same way, and as complex as the flavorings can be, it's perfect for that.

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But we're not talking about Virginia Woolf, Comrade Tezcatlipoca. We're talking about little bottles of flavored nicotine.

Surely it's possible to get just a bit too precious about all this?


But please tell me this is Walter Benjamin reference! (I'm a Critical Theorist - at the very epicenter of "the underfunded side of campus.")

And Chateau Margaux is squashed grapes. Yet people wait in line to pay $1000/btl, years before it is even out of barrel. The number of people who get precious about anything, determine the availability. In the case of greed, price too, yet this has not seemed to affect the proprietors of Ahlusion. MOST precious things are allocation controlled by setting a price so that quantity meets demand. Simply raising the price would cure the excessive demand that frustrates those who would like to purchase it, and in terms of pure Economics, would be a valid reaction. With the utmost respect, Now how excited are you?

Edit: Ah Jerms, you beat me to the punchline.
 
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Edit: Ah Jerms, you beat me to the punchline.

Maybe, but you used more impressive words lol.

I dislike the argument of simplifying a hobby in order to try to discredit it. Sure, a painting is just colored liquid on canvass. But just anybody can't take paint and brush and create the Mona Lisa. Eliquid may just be pg, vg, nic, and flavoring, but the potential for different flavors is limitless.

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But we're not talking about Virginia Woolf, Comrade Tezcatlipoca. We're talking about little bottles of flavored nicotine.

Surely it's possible to get just a bit too precious about all this?


But please tell me this is Walter Benjamin reference! (I'm a Critical Theorist - at the very epicenter of "the underfunded side of campus.")

You caught me red handed! :laugh: Good to know there's a kindred spirit here on the ECF! Archaeologist / Art Historian here, but my MA was in Anthropological Theory (leaning heavily toward the radical side).

I won't over-hype this juice -- it's my favorite vendor and pretty much the only one I use these days, but if others are happy with vendors with faster turnaround time and 'round the clock ordering, they might be best off sticking with them. My point in a nutshell is that Wlad is trying to run his business on his terms as he wants to run it, rather than letting the invisible hand of the market run him and his business, and I admire that. As a former small business owner (manufacturing artwork -- ironically, especially given the Benjamin reference :)), getting your business to expand is not necessarily the hard part if you have a solid product. Having the foresight to shape the business into something you want it to be and knowing when to put the brakes on if it starts getting out of control is a challenge when money and attention start rolling in.

If that bowl of oatmeal your ordered is Rick's Request, be prepared for a loooooong steep before it's at its best (like months). The others don't take anywhere near that long, but Rick's is pretty special that way!
 
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Do you honestly think eliquid is equivalent to rare wine, Moueix?

This isn't a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely curious.


I drink wine 4 or 5 nights of the week. I vape all day, every day. The quality of my vape is at least as important to me as the quality of my wine. As someone who came from Volt and Dekang, and who has been serious about wine for 3 decades, the incremental differences in quality vs. demand is not lost on me. I was fortunate. I did not have to try dozens of vendors before I found this. I wish I could say that of wine. Years and fortunes were spent finding my preferences. I receive nicquid samples regularly from vendors and friends. I have yet to find better.

With respect, I have no dog in this fight. I'd prefer you didn't like it. They are 30 miles from me and yet I also have difficulty obtaining it. I have met Wlad several times, and consider him a friend but I am not a fanboi, nor am I loyal when it comes to my money, or product. I am an unabashed hedonist. If I found better, well, he would still be my friend...

But to directly answer your question. Rare does not make wine better. Fine does. Would I have believed that there was such a thing as a "fine" nicquid? Previously, no.
 
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Moueix said:
I drink wine 4 or 5 nights of the week. I vape all day, every day. The quality of my vape is at least as important to me as the quality of my wine. As someone who came from Volt and Dekang, and who has been serious about wine for 3 decades, the incremental differences in quality vs. demand is not lost on me. I was fortunate. I did not have to try dozens of vendors before I found this. I wish I could say that of wine. Years and fortunes were spent finding my preferences. I receive nicquid samples regularly from vendors and friends.

With respect, I have no dog in this fight. I'd prefer you didn't like it. They are 30 miles from me and yet I also have difficulty obtaining it. I have met Wlad several times, and consider him a friend but I am not a fanboi, nor am I loyal when it comes to my money, or product. I am an unabashed hedonist. If I found better, well, he would still be my friend...

But to directly answer your question. Rare does not make wine better. Fine does. Would I have believed that there was such a thing as a "fine" nicquid? Previously, no.
Well, that's a very interesting answer.

I'll be sure to keep it in mind if this mysterious package ever arrives. (Which, of course, I hope it does. I can't say I'm convinced, but you've piqued my curiosity, certainly.)

Thank you for your forthrightness. I appreciate it. :)
 

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Vaping is actually the first thing I've had the desire or funds to get into the "finer" aspects of it. Wine? If it was in a box count me in. I drank to get drunk, not for flavor. Vaping started out the same way, a method to get the drug, nicotine, into my system. I quickly got more interested in the flavor part of it more than anything else.

I vape many flavors a day, love looking forward to and evaluating flavors, reading other peoples opinions on juices, and have special flavors that I enjoy in a way that's much more satisfying than just getting my nic. I enjoy vaping in a way that's totally different than when I smoked, nicotine is almost secondary now. Just like the alcohol content is below the enjoyment of taste for wine lovers. If I vaped like I drank, give me cheap 36mg nic Dekang lol.

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