alarmist threads

[jayvolt]

I am hoping that I am not the only person out here that has seen a rise in what can only be called unfounded alarmist threads created with the intent of scaring people off of e cigs. I am new to the game and approached this with an all out mentality, purchasing both a magma and inferno system, several Johnson creek liquids in both pg and non pg varieties. I have begun a blog about my quitting and a website to raise awareness about e cigs.

I for one am tired of people believing that all of the people on these boards are to stupid to research facts and believe that we will all crumble and falter back to regular cigarettes.

 

[Grimloki]

Well adults are entitled to make decisions for themselves. Some people are adverse to new things... or are just willfully ignorant and superstitious.

I'm not going back to regular cigarettes. I may not always vape, but I'm staying tobacco free for sure.

 

[NicLiq]

I am not going back to cigarettes either, if I drop over tomorrow, it is from the 30 years I smoked. We are waiting for the results from my husband's heartscan, and aren't expecting it to be good news - he's already in the beginning stages of COPD. Hopefully he will have another next year and show major improvement.

E-cigarettes have been nothing short of a miracle for us and no one can convince me that they anywhere nearly as harmful as than the 4000 chemicals I was sucking down every day.

 

[Alakar]

I'm new to vaping as well, and I've been singing it's praises to anyone I meet since I started. I was a heavy smoker (1 to 2 packs a day) for 30 years. I quit on several occasions, using everything to help me stop smoking, but I always ended up going back after a few months. This is the first time I have quit that I haven't felt like I've lost something I liked. I've now got two of my three sisters interested in PV's, and hopefully I can get them started on it.

The alarmist segment of the population is always going to be there, and there will always be someone around to pander to their ignorance. All you can do is give factual information to people like this and hope it gets through.

 

[cookiebun]

Some people are just knotheads. Pointless to argue with them. Intelligent people will figure out the truth.

 

[CGProg]

It's probably the antis getting on here stirring things up... lol
I usually just ignore them unless they actually raise some interesting questions.

 

[KissOfDeath]

just returned from my no smoking clinic. I now have a carbon monoxide output of 2 which officially classes me as a non smoker. All this has only been possible thanks to my Titan and my friend that recommended it. I never wish to smoke another cigarette ever again.

 

[ShannonA]

I am hoping that I am not the only person out here that has seen a rise in what can only be called unfounded alarmist threads created with the intent of scaring people off of e cigs. I am new to the game and approached this with an all out mentality, purchasing both a magma and inferno system, several Johnson creek liquids in both pg and non pg varieties. I have begun a blog about my quitting and a website to raise awareness about e cigs.

I for one am tired of people believing that all of the people on these boards are to stupid to research facts and believe that we will all crumble and falter back to regular cigarettes.

I'm fairly new but I'm thinking when you come accross one it would be good to post it in the comments needed section of the forum so we can provide an informed reply

 

[ropetrick]

I've started one or two of what you might think of as alarmist threads, all on the same (perfectly valid) topic. It had to do with the safety of clearomizers, and for the record I still use clearos regularly. I hope it's clear that the intent of my posts, and probably of others that might be thought of as alarmist, is to improve the industry. There are lots of good reasons to do so, not the least of which are to avoid over-regulation and bad press.

Having said that, true alarmists are pretty easy to pick out and, in my experience, people who are prone to giving credence to alarmists do it because, deep down, they want to be alarmed. Ain't no fixing that.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I've started one or two of what you might think of as alarmist threads, all on the same (perfectly valid) topic. It had to do with the safety of clearomizers, and for the record I still use clearos regularly. I hope it's clear that the intent of my posts, and probably of others that might be thought of as alarmist, is to improve the industry. There are lots of good reasons to do so, not the least of which are to avoid over-regulation and bad press.

Having said that, true alarmists are pretty easy to pick out and, in my experience, people who are prone to giving credence to alarmists do it because, deep down, they want to be alarmed. Ain't no fixing that.

I don't think that would qualify as an "alarmist" thread, considering there have been problems with the Clearomizers cracking.

There does appear to be a rise in the number of "OMG! E-cigs cause (insert some wild, alarmist and unfounded item here.)" Sometimes people just get crazy ideas in their heads or they're just gullible enough to believe what some other ignorant person told them. Sometimes these threads are started by trolls, although this doesn't happen very often here.

 

[jayvolt]

I am definatly speaking of the people that blame everything on the ecig. " my left toe turned blue and my knee is hurting, and my heart stopped 3 times last night because I tried e cigs" product failure is not in any way shape or form alarmist, and I for one agree that a little regulation is a good thing, I try to stick with good known brands and take what the vets on this site say as good info.

Take this for example I am on e cigs now for 2 days and have felt a little dizzy off and on, I have smoked a total of 3 ciggys for the 2 days. TEST, I smoked a ciggy today about 30 mins ago and the dizziness subsided. I could have blamed the dizzy feeling on the ecig, but there are more factors to be taken into account. Quitting smoking causes a list of symptoms a mile long, and people need to remember that ultimately you are quitting an addiction that I have not been able to kick for 14 years. Take into consideration I quit some heavy drugs cold turkey with no issues near as extreme as I feel when I don't smoke.

I am not saying that these ecigs won't cause any problems at all just saying that before you allow a post to panic you Do a little research. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Amanada]

Can I go with the conspiracy theory and say that they're all started by the internet henchmen of "Big Tobacco"? Makes me think of the scene from Clerks with the guy from Chewley's Gum.

And any of those members actually paying attention are now saying, "Oh $#!t! They're on to us!"

Fun thought, anyway.

 

[GMoney]

Can I go with the conspiracy theory and say that they're all started by the internet henchmen of "Big Tobacco"? Makes me think of the scene from Clerks with the guy from Chewley's Gum.

And any of those members actually paying attention are now saying, "Oh $#!t! They're on to us!"

Fun thought, anyway.

The "Clerks" reference made me smile.

I am far more worried about Big Pharma and Big Gov't than Big Tobacco.

 

[Amanada]

Oh, Big Pharma and Big Gov't would just find out where we live so then we would post "Ecigs are dangerous to your health because some guy just came to my house and beat my face in! Then he gave me a coupon for cigarettes and a sample pack of Chantix."

 

[swedishfish]

I don't think that would qualify as an "alarmist" thread, considering there have been problems with the Clearomizers cracking.

There does appear to be a rise in the number of "OMG! E-cigs cause (insert some wild, alarmist and unfounded item here.)" Sometimes people just get crazy ideas in their heads or they're just gullible enough to believe what some other ignorant person told them. Sometimes these threads are started by trolls, although this doesn't happen very often here.

+1

All of that information is readily availiable with a simple forum search, it does make you wonder what their motivation is.

Sort of fascinating that a smoker would come here and get their panties in a twist over an ingredient in juice or the perils of vaping. Please.

 

[player30]

Alarmist are pretty easy to pick out, and the best thing to do is to ignore their threads. But there are also people who are truly concerned that may sound alarmist at the moment. A few months back, I was concerned about diacetyl and made a few posts about them. And I went to my juice supplier's forums to find out if they used it. But I never said that I would not vape because smoking seemed healthier. Vaping is new to us when we start it, and most of us really want to quit smoking but not at the risk of making another stupid mistake. And hence, there are moments of alarm. Let's try to be patient with those trying to figure this out and just ignore the others.

And they will have to pry this e-cig from my cold dead hand!!!

 

[jayvolt]

I would say again that your post isn't alarmist either. I am an advocate of better control and ingredient listing by e juice vendors. Personally I feel that is a potentially dangerous point in e cigs, a lack of regulation allows for too many variables in production. Kudos to all of the manufacturers like Johnson creek etc that are More than happy to answer questions and list what they use.

By alarmist I was more concerned with all of the people that pray on health conscious individuals on this board and say " I ended up in the hospital because of e cigs " with no evidence that e cigs were in fact to blame.

 

[kimaw1313]

I now have a carbon monoxide output of 2 which officially classes me as a non smoker.
(post from kissofdeath)


Excellent!

I used to check my oxygen levels when I worked at the hospital. I had the same output that people on constant oxygen had. Pretty scary.