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Bliss Doubt

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I'm starting a new Alert thread. My previous one is closed to further replies. I'll never understand some things about ECF.

I heard this morning that Fentanyl, a synthetic opioid, many times stronger than morphine or her0ine, has been flooding into this country the last few years. I knew that, as most of us have heard about it. What I didn't know is that it's being used to lace street products of all kinds, some of which we can't mention in this forum, but today I learned it is used to lace vape products sold at street level, which means the guy selling things off the record in bars, nightclubs, at races, flea markets, public events and so forth.

Fentanyl is not only terribly addictive, but is deadly in small amounts, and what happens is that people who overdose and go to the emergency room risk being ventilated, which means being killed.

Many of us have to continuously address peoples concerns about our vapes, and we promote vaping to others who are trying to quit cigarettes. Now it is very important for us to tell people what should be obvious: don't buy vape gear, liquids, disposables, or anything vape related, anywhere but in real brick & mortar vape shops or from reputable online sellers.

Gawd, it's always something, to threaten our access to smoking cessation and harm reduction products. It will take one nanny on a soapbox to get our vapes taken away, even though I wouldn't doubt that tobacco "loosies" sold on the street are also laced with Fentanyl. It is just another weapon against us.
 
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I'm starting a new Alert thread. My previous one is closed to further replies. I'll never understand some things about ECF.

The system automatically closes threads that haven't had any activity for 90 days.

The last post in your Alert? thread was July 28, 2022. If you want that thread active again then tag classwife. She can reopen it and also merge the posts from this thread over to that one.

Whatever you decide, you'll need to post in the thread so it doesn't auto-close. ;)
 

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The system automatically closes threads that haven't had any activity for 90 days.

The last post in your Alert? thread was July 28, 2022. If you want that thread active again then tag classwife. She can reopen it and also merge the posts from this thread over to that one.

Whatever you decide, you'll need to post in the thread so it doesn't auto-close. ;)
Thank you. That's very helpful.
 

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This post from CASAA comes right to the point in saying that big tobacco is not the enemy of vaping. They point out that big tobacco is fully invested in vaping products, while doing a poor job of promoting them at the retail level, where they have contracts with massive national chains of grocery and convenience stores, and drugstores like Walgreen and so forth. For example, instead of having multiple rows of Marlboro behind every counter, they could be filling some of those slots with vapor products.

Further, CASAA points out that big tobacco is equally under fire for offering vape products, from the ANTZ, and therefore from our Congress, about allegedly creating products meant to addict children and hurt people.

They point out that big tobacco piggy-packed its success on the vaping community, us, not the other way around. They invested in vaping because of our success in quitting cigarettes, writing joyfully about it in the forums (they mention ECF specifically), having fun creating flavors, having meet-ups and conventions, starting many, many YouTube channels and blogs dedicated to vaping and product reviews.



I would add to what they said, the pharmaceutical industry is still a stealthy enemy of vaping, but I agree with them that big tobacco no longer has any reason to see vaping as a threat to its profits.
 
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    It is high time that the problem was addressed, it should have been done a long time ago:
     
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