All a mater of taste: Vaper's Tongue, or Olfactory Fatigue, and other issues

[Chemical Bromance]

Wanted to start a thread for taste issues, not taste notes and reviews. These will include problems like, vaper's tongue or even food pairings.
Jump in while the vape is hot!

What's that fishy taste?

On a recent trip North of the Wall (I heart GoT), because of time constraints, I picked up a few juices from the same vape shop. I've only started on 3 of them and all three consistently tasted fishy for the first 5 or so inhalations. I'd carry on and the fishy flavour would go away. It was like sucking in fish oil and quit unpleasant! I can't figure it out.
If it was a contaminated wick, then the juice in the tank should consistently be fishy throughout. But it's not. However when I add a dropperful of another juice into an empty tank, it fires up fishy again then goes away.

One consideration is that the fishiness was there consistently but my senses were overloaded and subsequently didn't taste it. When I loaded a diff juice in, maybe the different combo kickstarted up my buds again and I tasted the fishiness.

I did Google the issue and the answers seem to revolve around the freshness of the nic juice added. Apparently the nic juice can go stale... or something. Some people recommened steeping... while others recommended aeration through airing out for a few hours.

Last few facts of the case:
a) All three juices I cracked open and tried were made in Malaysia
b) The bottle were varied between glass and plastic
c) Vaping was at ard 23W at 0.65Ω on microcoiled SS316 on a Serpent Mini.

I can't figure it out and I'm hoping others have come across it and can shed some light on this and then I'll figure out what to do.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

Vaper's Tongue

So I've been having something of a "vaper's tongue" for a while and it's annoying the crap out of me. I've read up a lot online about it and tried most of the remedies, from smelling coffee grounds to sipping lemon water. Nothing seems to work. I'm hoping it will just recover. But I've also got a really bad sinus problem and am wondering if years of blowing my nose hard has shorted out my sense of smell somewhat. While I can smell my food fine, I must admit that my nose isn't as delicate as some of my friends'.

Frankly I don't get very strong flavours off my vape. Recently tried menthol juices and WHAM! the menthol hit was awesome. I guess getting one sensation is better than getting little taste. So far have tried rootbeer/ sarsaparilla (sarsi) menthol. Looking forward to some black currant menthol.

Anyone got any other ideas what I can do to ignite my buds?

 

[errolng]

never had the fishy problem.
may its just the juices?
never bought msia juices so i'm not too sure if its something they put in them.

i used to get vaper's tongue pretty often a few years back when i vaped the same juices for a few days in a row.
what i used to do was vape menthol/mint for 1/2 a day or so and switch back and it was fine.
haven't gotten it in a while as i switch flavours every 1-2 days

 

[WarA]

The fishy smell might be your cotton contaminated with hand oil.
As for vape tongue just swap juices for a few days/week.

Wash your hands properly before wicking or coiling should solve the issue.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

never had the fishy problem.
may its just the juices?
never bought msia juices so i'm not too sure if its something they put in them.

i used to get vaper's tongue pretty often a few years back when i vaped the same juices for a few days in a row.
what i used to do was vape menthol/mint for 1/2 a day or so and switch back and it was fine.
haven't gotten it in a while as i switch flavours every 1-2 days

Interesting. Never considered that.
But in this case, the wick was a used wick from an earlier tank loaded with KC Duchess. I hadn't changed it in a few days.

Sent from the road.

 

[LeftHandMan]

And whats the 3 juice that you tried? Anyway just a solution that you can try, both me and my friend sort of got vaper's tongue before. couldn't taste any flav for the juice. everything is just mild and tasteless for afew weeks. We were vaping mostly on US juice, so we swap to msia juice the ones with menthol and after awhile, you will get your taste buds back. ahaha

 

[errolng]

Interesting. Never considered that.
But in this case, the wick was a used wick from an earlier tank loaded with KC Duchess. I hadn't changed it in a few days.

Sent from the road.

wick should still be ok after a few days.
i normally only rewick once a week or so but i try to vape my wicks as dry as possible (i don't use tc and only use drippers) before switching flavours.

noticed you mentioned duchess a number of times in other threads so i ordered most of their line to try out.
hopefully its for me

 

[sofarsogood]

Early on withh DIY I discovered that very little flaoring was needed to keep me happy. My usual recipe is in the signiture area below. I can't vape pre mix any more. Its way to strong. Taste and smell are super sensitive if they are not constantly overwhelmed with flavors and scents that are too strong.

 

[Maestro]

Flavors are combinations of flavors and everyone will taste the notes in different strengths. I have a strawberries and cream which I taste mostly strawberries while my wife tastes mostly cream. As you age or do something to affect your tastes, like smoking, the different notes will change in strength and the total flavor will change. You'll likely find a flavor you loved when you started vaping tastes disgusting now, or vice versa.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Certain ingredients will give me vapers tongue and worse if I keep vaping them.
Most commercial ejuice gives me issues.
But the flavors that do not give me vapers tongue and worse I can vape continuously.
I am now 100% DIY btw.
I am of the opinion that certain ingredients in flavorings cause vapers tongue.
with me it is just worse than with the vast majority of people.

 

[frizzy_tyger]

Are all 3 juices with the fishy taste from the same company? I have a local company whose juices I won't buy any longer because I find the juices to have a "musty" kind of taste, but a lot of other people like their juices.

Also I would try changing the wick just to rule it out if nothing else, though I don't know what would cause the taste to only be at the beginning.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

Are all 3 juices with the fishy taste from the same company? I have a local company whose juices I won't buy any longer because I find the juices to have a "musty" kind of taste, but a lot of other people like their juices.

Also I would try changing the wick just to rule it out if nothing else, though I don't know what would cause the taste to only be at the beginning.

All diff companies but all are made in "boleh-land".

Sent from the road.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

I am of the opinion that certain ingredients in flavorings cause vapers tongue.

Can you share what makes it worse?


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[Chemical Bromance]

Early on withh DIY I discovered that very little flaoring was needed to keep me happy.

I'm beginning to come to the same conclusion.

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[Chemical Bromance]

Just tried a 12mg that I had bought on a whim. It was the only strength that they had for the Three Vikings Sigrid.
Was too strong and I was getting such a massive throat hit that I was coughing and choking. Totally didn't enjoy it, so much so I couldn't get a good feel for the flavour. Got seriously light headed after a few draws.
Am learning that I'm not ready for that level of nic and shd stay with the lightweight stuff.
Re-wicked and went back to Duchess.

For some reason, a dual coil SS316 works a lot better for me on this new Avocado 24 than Claptons. I'm actually tasting some of the juice!!

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[Chemical Bromance]

On the fishy-tasting juices, I'll try airing one bottle overnight and see if there's any improvement by tomorrow morning.
Am soaking two atties in hot soapy water over night and trying them fresh tomorrow. Will report back.

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[Robert Cromwell]

I wonder what they might make their PG out of....

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Can you share what makes it worse?


Sent from the road.

I have no idea of the ingredient since NONE list ingredients.
I do know that Most INW and TFA flavorings do it. But so do many CAP and FA flavorings.
CAP Vanilla Custard V1 and CAP Vanilla whipped cream are not a problem.
CAP Blueberry Jam Is and so is the INW melons and Shishia Strawberry.

 

[Chemical Bromance]

I have no idea of the ingredient since NONE list ingredients.
I do know that Most INW and TFA flavorings do it. But so do many CAP and FA flavorings.
CAP Vanilla Custard V1 and CAP Vanilla whipped cream are not a problem.
CAP Blueberry Jam Is and so is the INW melons and Shishia Strawberry.

That's a good starting point. I like those flavours

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[Robert Cromwell]

Also I do know that artificial sweeteners give me grief.
I use Liquid Stevia as a sweetener.