All my mods part1

[Gummy Bear]

It seems like you have to have condensation when breathing vapor. If it's smoke you absorb particles, if it's vapor you absorb microdropplets of flavor and nicotine.

Yes, but I think everyone understood that I was talking about vapor. perhaps I should have said artificial smoke (vapor) and my point has been that if the micro droplets are too large they will stick to any surface they contact (i.e., my lungs). If the are small enough they will condense and bond with the air giving "Hang time" and visibility. As you said "you absorb microdropplets of flavor and nicotine". True, but just how much do you want to absorb? I'm sure that you saw the photo I posted. That pic was after only 6 hits. I ran the same test the next day with a standard 510 atty and there was nothing sticking to the inside of the tube after 2 dozen hits. It's (510) particle size is much smaller thus a much dryer artificial smoke that doesn't stick to everything. Perhaps this is not an issue if you don't inhale, just puff, puff like a pipe smoker.

 

[roadrash]

It's (510) particle size is much smaller thus a much dryer artificial smoke that doesn't stick to everything.

Gummy, does the 510 atty still have its mesh?

 

[Gummy Bear]

It's (510) particle size is much smaller thus a much dryer artificial smoke that doesn't stick to everything.

Gummy, does the 510 atty still have its mesh?

yes, why?

And just to beat the dead horse one more time:
The Army and guys that build artificial smoke machines have been studying this issue a lot longer than the E-cig industry has. There is really no difference between an artificial smoke machine and a PV, other than the amount of vapor produced and the flavorings. Go here and read about the difference between wet or dry smoke (vapor).
http://www.smokemachines.com/QandA.htm#6
in particular their last Q&A. I'll post it here. When you get to the part about "the greater its versatility for ducted applications" think LUNGS.

17: How do I judge artificial smoke quality?
The quality of artificial smoke is primarily a function of the diameter of its aerosol particles. The smaller the particles, the brighter the smoke’s appearance, the longer its ‘hang time’, the more multidirectional its distribution, the greater its versatility for ducted applications artificial smoke machine, and the deeper its penetration into tiny cracks. The particles of Corona "smoke" measure between 0.2 and 0.3 microns in diameter – the smallest particles produced by any standard generator in the industry (A micron is one thousandth of a millimeter).

 

[Gummy Bear]

If others want to post their results about the condensation they get with this atty design well,,, that cool but, I'd rather not hijack Master Raidy's thread with this subject any longer than I have already. A better place to discuss it would be HERE if you wish to talk about it more.

 

[roygodbold]

Roy, you only need ~3.14mm to make that one layer. But it isn't all about the math. If you've ever 'built a joint' euro-style, with 3 papers (ECB) and a stiffer paper (used bus ticket) for a mouthpiece/filter, it is much like that filter. Once you get it started you roll it into itself, sliding it ever so slightly to tighten it and get a nice spiral shape. Funny how raidy can do this after 10 beers in the dark, hmmm.

Aha! The doobie roll. Got it down. Started with 14mm width and now fits nicely in my 2mm ID SS tube. Thanks! If you're ever in the U.S. drop on by
for some beers and ....

 

[l3oertjie]

Nice 'peace'. 'l3oer', can you PM me some dimensions for an Ego sized genisis? I'll more than likely make one for my Vgo which is similar.

I will post a CAD drawing on Monday for you Turbo. It works very nice.

 

[traderdan]

HI All
Just got threw vaping my Genisis and it was great, in its new case.
Hope you giys like it
Dan

 

[Kelemvor]

nice and very steampunk -

 

[WillyB]

Very nice. Didn't realize you are an artist too. Looks great.


PS and Thanks, got the package.

 

[asdaq]

Traderdan, I think it's great, love the steampunk look. One thing though, everything about it is round, so why not a round or oval window?

 

[traderdan]

Thanks Kelemvor
That's the effect I was going for. Basically a couple copper pipes with end caps and some copper wire Lot soldering lol.
used 18650 battery . I had Showed the atty earlier before I had finished the case . But here they are again for reference .
Dan

 

[traderdan]

Hi Asdaq
Thanks you have a point I didnt even think it should have been round too . Funny didnt cross my mind . Next one will be nicer . Making one with a smaller bat for my girl. Might get it right with hers .

 

[asdaq]

Hey, this one's right, dont get me wrong I do like the dual window for natural lighting too. Is the genisis all milled parts?

 

[traderdan]

Thanks Willy
I Used to do alot of pen and ink art work eyes aint as good as they use to be .So havent done any real art in awile . Oh yea Im waiting to see yours Willy get to work man dont fall behind .Got to be ready for part two .
dan

 

[traderdan]

Yes asdaq
I turned them on my old South bend Lathe. She's a sweety 1942 Navy training lathe . One of the toys in my shop.
Dan

 

[BillyP]

Very nice work traderdan. How is the vapor? Do you get alot of condensation like gummy Bear?

 

[traderdan]

Hey Billy
Thanks, the vapor is rich and thick ,the flavor is great in fact, never tasted that good in a factory atty . I made a few attys that came close to it . But I havent got their size down to where I wanted them to be . Condensation I havent noticed it will cheak to see if it does later tonight got to go to a dinner .I will post back later and say.
Dan

 

[BillyP]

Back in the 90's these got used alot. Seems like they might be a cheap body for a Gensis atty

 

[asdaq]

For just the mesh it would be possible, but the tapered ends would be difficult to get the power leads into as well.

 

[Gummy Bear]

Oh now that brings back memories. can you still get them? (other than in an antique shop)

And you can screw all kinds of extensions on them. One chamber for the juice one for the battery, one for the vapor top cap, that would make a very good one, especially if you bring the wires out the side.