All Things about the Eleaf iCare & iCare Mini

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Burnie

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Part of what confused me are the dims given, they are the same as my iCare.

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Read further down, did not know these had temp control. :lol:

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I did appreciate my iCare yesterday as I went to a very good friends funeral, and after, other related events. The size was just perfect, and when slightly out of sight of others, I could hold it in my hand and it could not be seen, and easy to take a quick vape on. Other wise it rested in my shirt pocket undetectable.
 

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Does anyone know if these are regulated, do they have any built in protections?
From my understanding, battery output is not regulated. As for protection, I would think it Should have an overcharge protection, and it says that it has a 1Ω lower limit. That's all I have seen. Even Eleaf's website is sparse on info.
 

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I am planning on getting the mini/pcc next month when the little woman in my life clears the cc for take off. Surely don't need it, but you all know how that goes. I guess when I step out of the house I'll have to flip a coin to see which I'll take with me. I'll try to be fair so that each get equal use. Wouldn't want to accused of being partial to one or the other. :)
 

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...I just gotta quit trying to push a firing button on the top :facepalm:

old habits die hard, will probably do the same thing when I get mine..
I am sure once the newness wears off, I will attempt to replace the actuator with a button, I like my buttons. :facepalm:
 

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How is the airflow? I use juul and njoy daily disposables. I like a pretty tight airflow as I do not like anything airy. Also, would the mini do ok with black note or an n.e.t. liquid?

I think on the low air setting you would be satisfied. And I have used several NET liquids in mine with no trouble. I had received an order from naturally-extracted-tobacco.com right before I got my iCares so I got to try them out. Sorry I know nothing of black note.
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I am sure once the newness wears off, I will attempt to replace the actuator with a button, I like my buttons. :facepalm:
Yeah, I totally miss the button.

So I broke mine out today for football and it worked very well.
I closed airflow down to two holes which seems to work better with my PG-heavy liquid.

But because I missed the button, and the fiddling...
I eventually broke out my dripping setup...

I like the iCare, but only when dripping isn't an option.
 

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So, yesterday was my first day back in the truck with my iCares. I was certain the 2 of them would never last me thru a full day without refilling. To my surprise they did get me thru 14 hours! Just barely. Obviously I must be vaping alot less while driving. I did however vape the first one down to a nasty dry hit. Good news is there doesn't appear to be any ill effect to the coil now that I refilled it.
Started the day with 1 in my shirt pocket and 1 stowed upright in a pocket if my seatback organizer. Big mistake, it was flooded when I grabbed for it. After refilling the first one I stuck it in the organizer upside down. 8 hours later no flooding no apparent leakage...cool.
 
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Happy to say my regular iCare is still working fine. Still enjoying it very much.

I decided not to return the mini/PCC and just chalk it up to a defective device or perhaps user error. I did overfill it at least once and may have gotten some nicquid where it shouldn't be. Or something. :eek:

I just didn't want to return the PCC which works fine or the coils which will get used. I will order another standalone mini and be back where I started. Out about as much as a pack of the nasties.

:)

Does the pcc have a usb standing up in the bottom of the pcc for the mini to connect to? I'm assuming it does.
 

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Does the pcc have a usb standing up in the bottom of the pcc for the mini to connect to? I'm assuming it does.
No, it has it pins that make contact with two contacts that are on the mini (which are not on the regular one). It was in the video by PB a ways back in the thread. :)

If you look close you can see a pin on the PCC in this picture
http://www.dampfplanet.de/media/ima...leaf-icare-mini-starterset-mit-pcc-2300ma.jpg

and on the mini, you can see the contacts in this picture
https://img.fasttechcdn.com/546/5465204/5465204-14.jpg

They use magnets to keep you from charging wrong, attracts when right, repels when wrong.
 
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No, it has it pins that make contact with two contacts that are on the mini (which are not on the regular one). It was in the video by PB a ways back in the thread. :)

If you look close you can see a pin on the PCC in this picture
http://www.dampfplanet.de/media/ima...leaf-icare-mini-starterset-mit-pcc-2300ma.jpg

and on the mini, you can see the contacts in this picture
https://img.fasttechcdn.com/546/5465204/5465204-14.jpg

They use magnets to keep you from charging wrong, attracts when right, repels when wrong.

Ahh, now i see. Thanks. :)
 

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I have same results with rayon; I use rayon everywhere now. I had a thought though: since wool (actual clean, undyed, sheep's wool) doesn't burn and absorbs way more liquid than cotton without dripping, I wondered if anyone has ever tried wool for wicking? It actually puts fire out until you get to really high, consistent temperatures (way longer than your typical hit), and absorbs 30% liquid without feeling wet, and actually warms up when wet instead of feeling cold, like cotton/rayon. It's a protein fiber, not a cellulosic (like cotton and rayon). Idk which, if any, of these properties make a difference, just reporting them for science's sake :)

Anyone tried it?

Haven't ripped one apart yet, actually I haven't even opened the box :facepalm: It's been one of those weeks. By the pictures and the videos the construction looks similar to other Eleaf coils that I have opened up. The layer right up against the coil isn't cotton, it's some sort of silica based material, similar to (or maybe the same as) these:
$2.58 Rectangle Silica Wick for RDA RTA RBA Rebuildable Atomizers (20-Pack) 20-pack - single rectangle size: 80*50mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The cotton seems to feed the juice to that matting material. Other approaches that might work are very tightly packed cotton, or rayon. In RTA's I need much less rayon to keep it from leaking than I would with cotton. Just a thought.
 

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On that tank/leaking thing: the recent Genesis-style RDTAs don't leak and have the best flavor I've ever seen. I've tried these three and they're all amazing, but the VGOD rules big-time because flavor is AWESOME and cloudsbroclouds - really thick, juicy tasty clouds!). Not even a hint of a leak on any of these (in order of tastiness):
- VGOD Trick Tank Pro
- CoilArt Azeroth
- Geek Vape Avocado

Oh and my setup is dual 3-core Alien wire, 6 wraps @3mm, approx 22ohms. Wicked with rayon. AFC: half-open (full open on VGOD). I like both the others full open too, I just go back and forth. I vape on a R200s at 85w/4.02v or Hexohm v2 at 60% (~100w/4.5v).

For juice I DIY all my juices, 2-3 mg/ml nic, pretty gunky (bakery/cream/cereal juice), max VG (at least 90%).

Would the iCare system leak with 100% PG mix? I'm guessing the answer is yes, the same as other tank systems.

I'm finding, with that mix, there is no visible vapor on the exhale if it all comes from my lungs after holding it a second or 2. (All you get is a nic fix. Flavor and texture are sub par.)

Now I'm looking for the smallest possible device but there can't be a leaking issue. Normally I use an rda with a single side air supply I can seal with a slip ring for pocket carry. I'm waiting on an Evic Basic to power it and hoping the combination is stealthy enough.

Then I want to find out what objections there are going to be when the device and the vapor are not visible.
 
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I have same results with rayon; I use rayon everywhere now. I had a thought though: since wool (actual clean, undyed, sheep's wool) doesn't burn and absorbs way more liquid than cotton without dripping, I wondered if anyone has ever tried wool for wicking? It actually puts fire out until you get to really high, consistent temperatures (way longer than your typical hit), and absorbs 30% liquid without feeling wet, and actually warms up when wet instead of feeling cold, like cotton/rayon. It's a protein fiber, not a cellulosic (like cotton and rayon). Idk which, if any, of these properties make a difference, just reporting them for science's sake :)

Anyone tried it?
There have been all kinds of material used for wicking, I'm sure someone somewhere has tried it, but i have not heard if it, give it a try and let us know. :D
 
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