Almost a mod in a box

[ericdjobs]

You are confusing me. Are you talking about the same unit that Bdbodger is showing? Do you have one?

One cell can sustain over 2A. Why would there be a need for a higher than 2A output with a USB output? When USB (and the associated hardware) was developed they were basically looking at 100 and 500mA of current.

According to Wikipedia.


devices that need more than 2A usually use the more traditional DC connectors for input, the same ones you see on large power supplies.

Didn't know USB connectors were only rated for 1.5A. But yeah it's the same unit I'm speaking of,

5V Mobile Power Supply USB Battery Charger 18650 Box 2A | eBay

Ahh, I see what you mean. I had no idea what USB hardware was rated for current wise... then again, probably silly to assume it was higher than 2A)

But yeah, I guess I was looking at it as a piece of hardware designed for vaping, when in reality it's no such thing. I keep forgetting that the kind of current draw you get into with the vaping style I prefer (I prefer Boge 2.0 cartos at 5.2v on my evercool variable volt boxmod.. which is something around 2.6A of current) is quite a bit...

 

[Bdbodger]

I don't think he was looking at the one I posted . The one I posted is 5.1v input recommended 1A or more . I didn't have one rated at that high an output but I did try it with one rated at 500ma and the charge light did light . I assume that would work I mean the external charger for the batteries is 650ma at 3.7 volts and that is an ultrafire charger . This box should work well on a ego pass through battery .

 

[WillyB]

I don't think he was looking at the one I posted . The one I posted is 5.1v input recommended 1A or more . I didn't have one rated at that high an output but I did try it with one rated at 500ma and the charge light did light . I assume that would work I mean the external charger for the batteries is 650ma at 3.7 volts and that is an ultrafire charger . This box should work well on a ego pass through battery .

You should tap into the +/- somewhere before the USB out and see what happens. I say before just in case the limiting is a USB plug/out specific thing.

The original Tekkeon 1800 was listed as 5V @1400mA out on Amazon and 1000mA at their site, yet it worked fine.

Didn't know USB connectors were only rated for 1.5A. But yeah it's the same unit I'm speaking of,

5V Mobile Power Supply USB Battery Charger 18650 Box 2A | eBay

Actually that unit is significantly different. It appears to be wired in series (or a combo). That probably accounts for why it needs a higher input voltage for charging.

 

[CraigHB]

That's the problem with USB connectors, low current rating. The standard barrel style DC connectors are usually good for 5A.

When looking at the 3.0 USB spec, it's 900mA for data ports and 1500mA for charging ports. I'm thinking of over-driving a mini-usb connector to 1000mA for a high charging rate on my next mod, but I'm not sure if it will burn out the connector prematurely, any opinions? I've been using a barrel connector for high charging rates, but I want to use mini-USB on the next one, more compact.

 

[WillyB]

Sure wouldn't bother me.

 

[Bdbodger]

The original Tekkeon 1800 was listed as 5V @1400mA out on Amazon and 1000mA at their site, yet it worked fine.

The output on the one I posted is 1.5A max 2A so it says so it is similar to that . I can confirm it works well with an ego passthrough battery . I took it to work today and then when I got home plugged the PT into a usb and the charge light went out almost right away so it was fully charged even though I had been using it for about 10 hours . I did find a wall adapter for it from my video/mp3 player which was 5v @ 2.4A so that is good .

 

[Bdbodger]

Just an update . The box I posted will use a normal ego usb charger to charge a battery but when I tried it on my Motorola razor cell phone it did not work . I see the other box that was posted had adaptor cables . That box may have worked or at least this one may have with adaptors such as those .

 

[Bdbodger]

Another update day 1 this box worked all day . Day 2 protection tripped after about 5 hours . Day 3 protection tripped almost right away although I don't know exactly when . You have to keep opening the box to hit the protection button to reset it . I don't carry a screw driver with me so I had to wait until I got home . At first I though maybe you can charge a PT but not vape with it but no when I got home and reset it then hooked up my PT to it it tripped . I have it recharging right now but it should not need it I had put 4 fully charged 18650 batteries into it and that should have been 2400mah x 4 so now way a PT would run it down in 15 hours .

EDIT**** May have been wrong batteries seem to maybe have been run down . Will let you know later if that is the case .

 

[WillyB]

I don't quite understand what you are doing, but with a real PT any atty/carto lower than ~2.4Ω will exceed the 2A limit.

 

[Bdbodger]

I don't quite understand what you are doing, but with a real PT any atty/carto lower than ~2.4Ω will exceed the 2A limit.

Well it worked good the first day . I have been using 2ohm boge cartos and never had a problem using then on an ego battery . The PT connection charges the battery not the carto so I don't see the problem . I think the batteries where maybe just run down . Maybe the 18650 batteries where not charged as I had assumed . It is a pass through battery not a true PT .

 

[Livnoutdoorsxd9]

Well the two 18650 battery boxes/portable chargers finally got here today . I like . Here are some pictures with 4 18650 protected batteries

Howd you get that eyelet on your battery for the lanyard?

 

[Bdbodger]

I used one of the eGo-T Necklaces from ovale . It has a ring with part of it cut out for the button . You put in on before the cone cover .

 

[TUS172]

So how has it worked out for you thus far?

 

[Bdbodger]

I bought two of those boxes one has already stoped working but the other one is still working . I might use the first box for a mod I will just take out the electronics . Not sure why the first one isn't working . There is a reset button inside of it but that does not work or not any more .

 

[TUS172]

Hmm... I ordered 2 anyway just to give it a whirl. Were you using the unit that shut down as a passthough (did you have it on while vaping?) or were you using it as a charging unit?

 

[TUS172]

Considering the amp draw of a 1.5 atty... why couldn't you use a Boge 510 @ 2.0 or 2.5 ohms and use it as a passthrough. The amp draw should then be well within the limits of the unit then, right? Am I off here?

 

[WillyB]

I bought two of those boxes one has already stoped working but the other one is still working . I might use the first box for a mod I will just take out the electronics . Not sure why the first one isn't working . There is a reset button inside of it but that does not work or not any more .

These should probably be used with unprotected batteries.

 

[Bdbodger]

These should probably be used with unprotected batteries.

I guess I will try that but all I had for it at the time was protected 18650 batteries . I didn't think there would be any harm in using them . I have 4 aw imr 18650 batteries now but I am using them in rotation in my provari . On that note what would happen if I used a protected 18650 in the provari ? Provape recomends the imr batteries and that is what I use . It does have a vent hole on the bottom though . What should I do with the protected batteries though maybe put them in a mod ?

 

[TUS172]

I noted the batteries thta you had in the battery pack. The seller suggests that 2600 MAH bateries be used. Would that make any difference?
Most people have an expertise in something but mine is not for knowledge of electronics/electricity. So would appreciate an answer to my question above on the ohms to amp draw of the 2.0 or 2.5 attys...

 

[WillyB]

Considering the amp draw of a 1.5 atty... why couldn't you use a Boge 510 @ 2.0 or 2.5 ohms and use it as a passthrough. The amp draw should then be well within the limits of the unit then, right? Am I off here?

Just use this.

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Plunk in 5V and 1.5A. What ever resistance comes up you need to use a tad more. That's because unlike a simple power supply the unit may just kick itself off if more than it's max is called for.

I guess I will try that but all I had for it at the time was protected 18650 batteries . I didn't think there would be any harm in using them . I have 4 aw imr 18650 batteries now but I am using them in rotation in my provari . On that note what would happen if I used a protected 18650 in the provari ? Provape recomends the imr batteries and that is what I use . It does have a vent hole on the bottom though . What should I do with the protected batteries though maybe put them in a mod ?

Too many questions.

What ohms atty/cartos do you use?