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Preorders are an absolute nightmare. You really can't charge a customer until the item ships to them, which means you have to keep all those credit card numbers on file. (A normal purchase on an e-commerce site sends the encrypted cc # to a third-party processor, so the vendor actually never has a record of the cc#). It's an enormous liability.
 

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Well in short Isaac sold a large quantity of goods to a couple of lowlifes that were scumbags that used defrauded means to pay for them. The problem was there was no money. Now on top of the money he didn't get (that is in the thousands) he was also out the product they fleeced him for. Add to the woes he was looked upon as a risk by the CC handlers because of it. He now has to pay a redicules charge for every transaction. So you add the money lost, product lost, Revenue lost from being closed after it happened, plus the extra fees for doing business now and it all adds up to an exorbitant cost and almost put him out of business. So now he's playing catch up. Not to forget they just bought a new home that needed repairs and raising a family.
He's a great guy just trying to make it in this world.

Liked the post as a thanks for the info, not for what happened. Is that why the IKV cartos I bought off the classies last week said "Joker approved?" So someone wasn't selling stolen product? I hate to hear this happening to anyone, let alone someone who puts out an obviously superior product.

I will support his business for as long as I vape, I am that impressed with his stuff.
 

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Liked the post as a thanks for the info, not for what happened. Is that why the IKV cartos I bought off the classies last week said "Joker approved?" So someone wasn't selling stolen product? I hate to hear this happening to anyone, let alone someone who puts out an obviously superior product.

I will support his business for as long as I vape, I am that impressed with his stuff.

Could be also there are a few fakes the Chinese (bless their little hearts) have copied his products (to their best ability and still keep the cost down to :2c: each to manufacture) and sell them through other vendors that are only worried about the all mighty buck and not their customers. If Joker approved them as Ikenvape then you know they're good. He's a stand up guy.

It's been a tough yr. for the Ikenvapes for sure. I remember when the store was closed for a bit and everyone was in a frenzy. Then the reopening was a little bit of problems but it's getting better by the day.


Preorders are an absolute nightmare. You really can't charge a customer until the item ships to them, which means you have to keep all those credit card numbers on file. (A normal purchase on an e-commerce site sends the encrypted cc # to a third-party processor, so the vendor actually never has a record of the cc#). It's an enormous liability.

You hit the nail on the head. f you haven't been in business these things are overlooked. Especially when, like me, you want your stuff right now. It would be a project for sure.
 
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Besides, inside every box of Ikenvape cartomizers and atomizers is the heartbeat of excellence and the pulse of his customers wants and needs.
Dang cheap camera.
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They are implementing a limit because of my suggestion so yeah it did get somewhere.
To be honest, the Limit was inspired from the man you are arguing with a couple years ago and is now being revived not because of the recent outburst. The decision for the next max limit was because of how many people were buying hundreds upon hundreds at a time when that kind of stock is not necessary. I recently seen a guy in the classifieds selling over 75 of them. I verified they are "real" but still, the question is "why purchase so many when each one gives you so much time while others are left without at the moment. Should people have to wait for others to sell them because they diminished the stock? or should everyone have a a fair chance. I told you last for the reason of doing away with the max limit but if it's what I have to do, it is what must be done. The point of this post? Is just let you know, that you and J5 are on the same side. Yes, he's a little upset because when you believe in something and someone throws what could be interpreted as hurtful words it's only natural for defense. I was pretty hurt with your posts here as well. I'm just looking for a for of understanding between you two.

Well in short Isaac sold a large quantity of goods to a couple of lowlifes that were scumbags that used defrauded means to pay for them. The problem was there was no money. Now on top of the money he didn't get (that is in the thousands) he was also out the product they fleeced him for. Add to the woes he was looked upon as a risk by the CC handlers because of it. He now has to pay a redicules charge for every transaction. So you add the money lost, product lost, Revenue lost from being closed after it happened, plus the extra fees for doing business now and it all adds up to an exorbitant cost and almost put him out of business. So now he's playing catch up. Not to forget they just bought a new home that needed repairs and raising a family.
He's a great guy just trying to make it in this world.
Ugh don't forget that due to the high volume of fraudulent transactions that our merchant account provider black flagged us as a merchant and booted us off to the curb. Making it nearly impossible for us to be accepted by anywhere to accept payments which led to a 3 month down time while in the process of purchasing a house and then coming back with 300 plus orders back logged with customer payments being on hold and not having the money to ship out the orders :D Doing taxes now, this time last year we had over 100k now, we can't even reach 10 :cry:
Preorders are an absolute nightmare. You really can't charge a customer until the item ships to them, which means you have to keep all those credit card numbers on file. (A normal purchase on an e-commerce site sends the encrypted cc # to a third-party processor, so the vendor actually never has a record of the cc#). It's an enormous liability.
+1,000,000 However I been studying up on this and may make it happen, as long as customers only purchase one of the same product and stop changing thier minds so often :laugh:
 

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Liked the post as a thanks for the info, not for what happened. Is that why the IKV cartos I bought off the classies last week said "Joker approved?" So someone wasn't selling stolen product? I hate to hear this happening to anyone, let alone someone who puts out an obviously superior product.

I will support his business for as long as I vape, I am that impressed with his stuff.
Thanks Scoop! There's more info about what had transpired in my post above during our downfall to complete the story.
If Joker approved them. I don't see how they can be counterfeit. I don't think I seen him in forever though. I do have faith in him without a doubt however. Regardless, starting
April, All IKV cartomizers will be branded. :)
 

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To be honest, the Limit was inspired from the man you are arguing with a couple years ago and is now being revived not because of the recent outburst. The decision for the next max limit was because of how many people were buying hundreds upon hundreds at a time when that kind of stock is not necessary. I recently seen a guy in the classifieds selling over 75 of them. I verified they are "real" but still, the question is "why purchase so many when each one gives you so much time while others are left without at the moment. Should people have to wait for others to sell them because they diminished the stock? or should everyone have a a fair chance. I told you last for the reason of doing away with the max limit but if it's what I have to do, it is what must be done. The point of this post? Is just let you know, that you and J5 are on the same side. Yes, he's a little upset because when you believe in something and someone throws what could be interpreted as hurtful words it's only natural for defense. I was pretty hurt with your posts here as well. I'm just looking for a for of understanding between you two.


Ugh don't forget that due to the high volume of fraudulent transactions that our merchant account provider black flagged us as a merchant and booted us off to the curb. Making it nearly impossible for us to be accepted by anywhere to accept payments which led to a 3 month down time while in the process of purchasing a house and then coming back with 300 plus orders back logged with customer payments being on hold and not having the money to ship out the orders :D Doing taxes now, this time last year we had over 100k now, we can't even reach 10 :cry:
+1,000,000 However I been studying up on this and may make it happen, as long as customers only purchase one of the same product and stop changing thier minds so often :laugh:

What i dont get and really makes me mad is how could they hold you accountable for anothers actions as a thief! That is just absolutely absurd! And i am supper glad your back and hope all that is in the past for good.

Well Iken i for 1 would support pre orders to help get things going again for you. There is another thread about that here when able skim through it. I used to be in the restaurant business and pre orders werent unusual each place did them diff but most places made it clear once you pre order and pay its non refundable because said items have been ordered and purchased with that money. Just make it clear and have them check an agreement box with your terms that you can add and create on the page for pre orders.
 
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Thanks Scoop! There's more info about what had transpired in my post above during our downfall to complete the story.
If Joker approved them. I don't see how they can be counterfeit. I don't think I seen him in forever though. I do have faith in him without a doubt however. Regardless, starting
April, All IKV cartomizers will be branded. :)

Speaking of branding... will you be branding them with resistance as in the good old days?
 

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sorry to dig up this ugly thread but did anyone ever find out what Jwark was looking to get? I was just browsing the Ikenvape site and there's shockingly still a lot of stuff in stock. Perhaps not the exact item that you were looking for is not available but there's seems to still be a lot of good alternatives available. :confused:
 
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To be honest, the Limit was inspired from the man you are arguing with a couple years ago and is now being revived not because of the recent outburst. The decision for the next max limit was because of how many people were buying hundreds upon hundreds at a time when that kind of stock is not necessary. I recently seen a guy in the classifieds selling over 75 of them. I verified they are "real" but still, the question is "why purchase so many when each one gives you so much time while others are left without at the moment. Should people have to wait for others to sell them because they diminished the stock? or should everyone have a a fair chance. I told you last for the reason of doing away with the max limit but if it's what I have to do, it is what must be done. The point of this post? Is just let you know, that you and J5 are on the same side. Yes, he's a little upset because when you believe in something and someone throws what could be interpreted as hurtful words it's only natural for defense. I was pretty hurt with your posts here as well. I'm just looking for a for of understanding between you two.

Fair enough. Maybe you need people to voice their frustration too, though. If you just want a bunch of yes men worshipping the ground you walk on then that is your choice, though. I have no issue with you I think you handled the situation like a pro and I do admit I should have been more constructive with my post but maybe some of it was something that needed to be said as well.
 

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Fair enough. Maybe you need people to voice their frustration too, though. If you just want a bunch of yes men worshipping the ground you walk on then that is your choice, though. I have no issue with you I think you handled the situation like a pro and I do admit I should have been more constructive with my post but maybe some of it was something that needed to be said as well.

I suppose if you read the posts (Quite a lot of them) you would see that there are no "Yes Men" here. We quite often post our displeasure's with some of his products. We just do it in a more civilized manner but I guess everyone is entitled to post in an abrasive manner if they please. I hope your Easter was a good one.
 

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Fair enough. Maybe you need people to voice their frustration too, though. If you just want a bunch of yes men worshipping the ground you walk on then that is your choice, though. I have no issue with you I think you handled the situation like a pro and I do admit I should have been more constructive with my post but maybe some of it was something that needed to be said as well.

Hi Jwark,

I'm still just trying to find out what you are/were trying to buy if you don't mind me asking?

~BW
 

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Hi Jwark,

I'm still just trying to find out what you are/were trying to buy if you don't mind me asking?

~BW

My guess is he was looking for "punched" cartos.... Those are in high demand it seems. I got my order already, but if I was in dire need, I'd consider punching my own just to vape the Ike's. I'm blown away by how much better they vape than the Boge's and Smok's.
 

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My guess is he was looking for "punched" cartos.... Those are in high demand it seems.

If that was/is the case there are still 510 platinums left. Not the Fusion but the Platinums still blow Boges out of the water IMHO. And if it is an XL size he needs the 801 Fusions Mega Punches are still in stock. The adapters are only a couple bucks. :confused:
 

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Fair enough. Maybe you need people to voice their frustration too, though. If you just want a bunch of yes men worshipping the ground you walk on then that is your choice, though. I have no issue with you I think you handled the situation like a pro and I do admit I should have been more constructive with my post but maybe some of it was something that needed to be said as well.

I'm not really sure what you would like for us to reply to this with? Are we happy that we have to wait and hope to get his product? NOPE! It sucks balls! Are we happy that we have to wait in line and hope we can order in time to get our products even though we are "yes men" and other customers can' have, and will beat us to to it so we don't get anything? NOPE! That's the facts of life! I didn't get Jack last time! I was broke at the time and couldn't afford to order. That's the breaks! Maybe I'll get in on the next round! Maybe not, but my life will go on.
Issac on the other hand, he lost around $30k, to over seas buyers, there's no recouping that loss! Issac has also been hosed over buy other people in the past, this is a rough and tumble industry right now! BUT, I can't stress enough how much he's offered to help me out, just out of good faith! I've got a few ideas I hope to get worked out so he can run with them and hopefully get back to where he was. But it's a long hard road.
So call us what you will, but at the end of the day we are proud to call Issac a friend. You don't find many of them in this day and age.
 

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Well I am glad he is still in business at all. Haven't been to his site in awhile (or here for that matter) and went looking for some of his incredible RY4 tonight and don't see much stock on that either. Hopefully that changes too tho, hell, I'll take some 8MG VG for now.

Couldn't put it better myself. You speak truth and you get called Yes Men of Fan boys.
 
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