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HappyTimeHarry

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I've been wrestling with myself on whether to post about this in this forum, but here goes. Hopefully this will help someone in the future. I began on V2 Cigs a couple months ago and finally decided to updgrad to eGo Twists a couple weeks ago. I didn't do much research on vendors and found AltSmokes through just a general Google search. I bout two eGo Twists through their website (a 650 and an 1100) as well as everything else in order to start vaping (chargers, cartos, juices and a case). I was so excited to get it that I paid $30 for express shipping and did get it in just a couple days (which I paid for).

When I pulled the products out of the box, they had all been fit into the case I ordered, so it was obvious someone at their company took the time to do this. I put everything together and started vaping. What I noticed was that the trigger button was indented halfway in, and the product would work but was really hard to press down. You see, I did not think this was odd at first because both batteries had this same issue. Both were pushed in in the exact same spot and could not be pryed out. After some research on this forum I found that this was a major defect. I couldn't believe I had paid all this money and they both came with problems from the jump. What really frustrated me is that all the products I ordered were fit into the custom case. Therefore, someone from their company had to handle the products and still shipped them to me defective. I believe this is unacceptable. There was no quality control done on my shipment at all. This seems like it would be an easy issue to catch.

By the time I notice they were defective, AltSmoke was already closed. It was Friday night and I believe they are closed all weekend. I did leave a message right away saying I was concerned about this. Come Saturday, I decided to just send the batteries for a refund and purchase two other locally. I shipped everything back with a note telling them about everything and the packing slip which I circled what I expected to be refunded: the batteries and the shipping. You see, I paid $30 to get the products in earlier so that I could use them. Instead I had to pay for shipping back to them and purchase from a different shop. This was a complete waste of my time and resources. I also left a message on Saturday telling them I had shipped th products back. I did not receive any other correspondence with them until they received the shipment back, at which time they called and left me a message saying they would refund the batteries, but could not refund the shipping. There was no apology or attempt to rectify the situation. I feel I should have been given some money back for shipping at least due to their lack of attention to product. I wasted $30 for a product from them I could not use and had to pay more to acutally ship it back. I didn't want to continue this anymore because it was causing too much stress than it was worth. They were not interested in my satifaction at all and I will NEVER buy from them again.

Since that purchase I've spent about $500 on other crap that could have gone to them if they had taken any care toward customer satisfaction.
 

halopunker

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While we Strive to reach resolutions with every customers sadly we weren't able to rectify the situation to the customers full expectations. In regards to shipping, the order consisted of quite a few different products, not just ego twists. The shipping charges were used in the matter that were selected, Express Shipping. We never refund shipping charges, the products were received within proper times via USPS so no refund could be processed for this order. Express Mail via USPS does have a money back guarantee if they are not received within 1-2 Days from time of shipment.

The proper method in this procedure should have been to get a RMA from us in order to process the return. This involves communicating with a Customer Service Representative. But instead the customer decided to send back the item and therefore making the decision to return the defective products in the improper way (Returning Items) and pay for the shipping. If you had communicated with a Customer Service Rep Prior, which Ethan did leave a voicemail when the package was returned, they may have given you a prepaid label to send the defective item back. As we know it's not the customers fault that products were received this way. You're more than welcome to E-Mail me the receipt for the shipping charges and I'll gladly refund you the shipping that you incurred to ship the product back to us.

While the products may have been defective from the get go it is almost impossible to check every single order that is going out. While the shippers may take the extra few seconds it takes to put things inside of a case when possible to better protect certain items, it is unreasonable to have them check over every single item in every single order.

We do run a lite shift on Saturday's and depending on when you called we may have been closed, we're normally open until about 4pm EST and with the time difference may not of had time to return your call that day. I did speak to the person in charge of making sure that voicemails get answered and there was no record of the call but that's not to say there wasn't a call. Sometimes VM's can be muffled or inaudible which makes it hard to return calls. We did call you on Tuesday and left a message and processed the refund shortly there after. This was due to the note that was enclosed in the return.

Like I said in the beginning, we strive to provide great customer service, but in this case we were not able to make comply with the requests from the customer due to policies that we have. Where ever you may go to buy your vaping gear, we wish you the best. If you have further questions feel free to use the Contact Us or email me Rob@ altsmoke .com

-Rob
 

HappyTimeHarry

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Thank you for the response. I understand mistakes are made. I don't hold any ill will or anything like that toward your company. I just wanted to share my experience. As a fairly new customer in the vaping community it was quite disheartening to get defective equipment on my first order with your company. I would understand one battery having an issue, but for both to have it I would've expected some follow up on your part to ensure that everthing is satisfactory. On message that was left, I was just told that you would refund the equipment but could not the shipping; no instructions to call back or offer any other recourse. I feel like that should have been done, but it was not. Something to think about if this happens again in the future.
 

halopunker

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I'll make sure to mention this in our next employee meeting on Thursday about voicemail messages left. I apologize for the issues, typically we have the DOA items returned with a prepaid shipping labels. Once we receive, we send out replacement products. Issues do happen, problems get resolved (for the most part ), the ones that don't we learn from the mistakes and press on. Problems we have are few and far between but do happen. But it only makes us human :p

Have a Great Fourth of July, and hope everything else was good with your order :)

-Rob
 
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