Am I missing aomething?

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State O' Flux

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Alight I'm a mech man I always have been but looking at the possibility of getting an apv but I'm looking at the wattages and shaking my head. I generally build around .1 ohm and at full charge thats 176 watts so how could 50 or 100 possibly be enough?
It's not... unless you want to build at a higher resistance... or are willing to accept a cold heat flux value from a device that can't hit Ohm's law parity for your present net resistance.
 

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I'm not even against building up I just don't understand how it'll be enough to blow the clouds I'm used to unless I was to get something like the smy 260


It's not... unless you want to build at a higher resistance... or are willing to accept a cold heat flux value from a device that can't hit Ohm's law parity for your present net resistance.
 

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And with voltage drop of the cell and mod resistance in the way at .1 causing even More voltage drop you're probably lucky to even see 100 watts.

there isnt a battery on the planet that can hold 4+ v at 40 amps your likely around 3.5 or so if that even and since there isn't any 40 amp batteries either your pretty much running a dead shorted cell as well






And thats the something your missing, way cool huh
 
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Jake Guss

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And with voltage drop of the cell and mod resistance in the way at .1 causing even More voltage drop you're probably lucky to even see 100 watts.

there isnt a battery on the planet that can hold 4+ v at 40 amps your likely around 3.5 or so if that even and since there isn't any 40 amp batteries either your pretty much running a dead shorted cell as well






And thats the something your missing, way cool huh

You are correct no battery Can handle 40 amps which would probably be y I run two Sony vct5 in parallel so that I'm not hard shorting anything and the voltage drop on my mod is only .2~.4 so if you wanna get really technical I'm pushing (at .08 ohms with freshly charged cells) about 200~180 watts and 50~47.5 amps but none of this even remotely answered my question thank you and have a nice day... now can anyone answer the question I accually asked
 
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You are correct no battery Can handle 40 amps which would probably be y I run two Sony vct5 in parallel so that I'm not hard shorting anything and the voltage drop on my mod is only .2~.4 so if you wanna get really technical I'm pushing (at .8 ohms with freshly charged cells) about 200~180 watts and 50~47.5 amps but none of this even remotely answered my question thank you and have a nice day... now can anyone answer the question I accually asked

Well it would have been one answer to your first post, but it's only now that you've mention that you're actually using 2 batteries, which is a completely different answer.

The short answer is if you want to get the same vape with a regulated mod as with your dual battery mech, you obviously have to use at least a dual battery regulated mod.

If you believe you are using 200 watts then you'd need a 200 watt mod; that would be the smy 12 volt 3 battery mod.


but in the original post; if you are vaping on a 0.1 ohm coil and you have 0.1 ohm losses , at 4 volts, that's 160 watts total but you're really vaping at 80 watts and losing 80 watts to excess heat lost.

From your figures, sounds like your measurements are about 5%-10% losses, so your vape power would be about 140 - 150 watts.
 

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You are correct no battery Can handle 40 amps which would probably be y I run two Sony vct5 in parallel so that I'm not hard shorting anything and the voltage drop on my mod is only .2~.4 so if you wanna get really technical I'm pushing (at .08 ohms with freshly charged cells) about 200~180 watts and 50~47.5 amps but none of this even remotely answered my question thank you and have a nice day... now can anyone answer the question I accually asked

Take a deep breath and read this again. Slowly. It contains your actual answer. Which I've bolded for perhaps a better user experience.

It's not... unless you want to build at a higher resistance... or are willing to accept a cold heat flux value from a device that can't hit Ohm's law parity for your present net resistance.
 

Jake Guss

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My advice would be to build higher and raise your applied voltage higher than what you would get from your mech. You can hit high heat flux values using some massive coils and a lot of voltage.
Ok so the problem I've had with larger coils taking a month and a half to heat up wouldn't be an issue at a higher voltage correct? That is what heat Flux refers to if I'm correct
 

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Ok so the problem I've had with larger coils taking a month and a half to heat up wouldn't be an issue at a higher voltage correct? That is what heat Flux refers to if I'm correct

Exactly! And its one of the reasons I prefer regulated, though I own and use quite a few mechs. But, you almost have to learn everything you thought you knew about building over again, but I've found you really can get an amazing vape this way. I want to try a Clapton now. It could be over 1ohm, and probably rock the house.
 
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