Thanks trog,
You are right I feel ... paying top dollar for a unit that may or may not last as long as a cheaper unit is definately false economy. It's for that reason I'll not be buying from ruyan, sure they invented the the e-smoking system but their prices are way above those of other suppliers and what I'm reading tends to indicate their reliability is no better than anyone else's products.
I'm unclear about the meaning of the terms DSE901, DSE103, DSE102. Sure I know they are model numbers for atomizers, but what that means beyond that is unclear to me ... anyone able to enlighten me ?
Question ... given that I see those model numbers quoted by any number of manufacturers, is the e-smoking manfacturing process the same as other industries ? That is several companies produce the end product, but do so using components made by the same or a small basket of companies ... So, is there perhaps only 1 or perhaps 2 manufacturers of atomizers that supply to all the other companies ... The same for all the other components ? That would account for my original post ... that no matter what the name on the packaging says, basically the products inside are indentical with only relatively minor cosmetic differences. For example the LCD computer monitor market, there are dozens of different brands on the market now, but the LCD screen and central core components are all made in about 5 factories with relatively small peripheral alterations to take into account differing assembly processes and end usage. This would account for the commonality of complaints about failure rates across all product brands.
I remember reading in another post somewhere someone talking about the overall standard of products made in China ... generally very good but let down by using one cheap low rate component, I believe the comment was "good tools let down by the use of a cheesecake screw" My experience with Chinese products is pretty much the same. China is a relative new comer in the design and manufacture process but are learning rapidly from their shortcomings. It may have been in the same post a mention made of a comparison with product, made in Japan, previously crap but now world leading, and a hope that Japanese interests with pick up on the e-smoking market and then we will begin to see development of top quality e-smoking products. I can't wait !
Looking at current e-smoking products out of China it is very apparent that most if not all of the current range of products are made to a price/quality design. The battery is a classic example of this, every forum holds negative comments of battery life and high failure rates, around 300Mah and high failure rate is pathetic and is really unacceptable. Li-ion reliable long life batteries are readily available in a huge variety of sizes and in capacities 2-3 times greater than is found in e-smoking products available now. But, they will have a price point several times higher than the short life, low capacity used now ... The cheesecake screw ?
Plenty of other posters and also I have made the comment that all e-smoking products should be more modular in design, the pipe is a good example of this ... What a total waste to have to throw the whole bowl assembly in the bin when the atomizer, vacuum switch or other widget fails rendering the thing useless, I can't for the life of me see the rationale behind that thinking, same thing applies to cigar shapes, throw your whole pretty tube in the trash can and start again with a new one, ridiculous ! The internal should be removable/replaceable as some e-cigarette designs are now. The battery for e-cigs is another silly design ... Why isn't the end cap removable, like cigars, so the battery can be changed without the need for a whole new tube assembly. All I can put it down down is current Chinese design thought processes.
Well that's me for today ... I'll be interested to hear what others have to say on all this too
