Am I Overreacting?

[JustMeAgain]

I've been at this a few months, and with the help of those in this forum, I've made quite a bit of progress.

Right now I have 7 - 510's, a Prodigy and, of course, the required newbie first purchase that "looks like a cigarette" that I never use. I also have a ton of liquid - some of which I like and some not so much, but I'm still searching for that perfect juice. I thought for quite some time that the 510/menthol was it for me, but now I'm not so sure. I've got enough flavoring to put a bakery to shame.

The problem is I still haven't hit the exact combo of equipment/juice that is right for me, but I am getting closer all the time.

But the whole FDA thing is making me a bit frantic that I HAVE to find it NOW because if I don't get it figured out it's all going to be snatched away and since it's both expensive and time consuming to order and give things a try, plus after I have the right stuff, then I have to stock up, and who knows what stocking up really means?

I feel like the clock is ticking while my back account keeps taking hits. I don't mind spending the money when I find what it is I'm looking for.

Right now, I like the Prodigy, but I am wondering if I should chuck the 510 in favor of the 801 in order to stop having to drip after every 3-4 drags. That frustrates me, and I understand the 801's atty holds more liquid.

I also wondered why we don't just make a longer cartridge. I asked about this in the cart mod forum, but no one responded, so I tried it myself and it seemed to work, but I'm still questioning what I should do.

If I felt like I could do this in a more leisurely way, I'd be ok, but with the possibility of impending doom, I have become obsessed with the idea that I have to get it worked out immediately, so that makes me spend a ridiculous amout of time in this forum.

I'd really like to get settled and have a life again. Can you give yourself a heart attack trying to quit smoking?

Am I the only one driving myself crazy with this?8-o Or am I just making too big of a deal of it all?

 

[AngusATAT]

As long as you have a good supply of attys put aside, you'll be fine. Anything else, you can make for yourself.

With the addition of my new Chuck, all I have to worry about it attys. I can refill carts, buy regular rechargeable batteries, and even make my own nic juice out of snus if I have to. As long as the attys hold out, I can vape indefinitely, ban or no ban. A heavy duty battery mod can last you for a very long time.

 

[snap6cat]

I see your point. For me over time I became less frantic about running out and actually am vaping less. I do not think you will ever get that "perfect vape" but it does seem to get closer. I find I keep finding new flavors that I like and rotating the flavors and equipment helps keep me satisfied. Calm down, enjoy what it is, it will never be perfect.
David

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

Justmeagain ~ Relax, what is going to happen is going to happen. As has been said, atty's atty's atty's. The rest will take care of itself. BTW, you will never find the perfect vap. Each time you learn or acheive one level, you will become aware of another level to acheive. Once you love a flavor you will look for another flavor that is better and on and on and on. That is what life is albout. Moving smoothly to the next level and the next and the next and the next.....


AngusTAT ~ Making nic juice out of snus? What! Details, Details man!
First I've heard of this.

 

[trog100]

if you need loads of vapour carts will not work without keeping everything wet with regular tops ups.. the carts wick but only relatively slowly.. lots of vapor needs ether direct dripping or regular wet cart top ups...

its just the way it is... light users are okay here.. something that produces lots of vapor like a 510 or even more so a prodigy needs to be kept wet..

half empty carts will just not deliver enough liquid to the heater coil quickly enough..

in short the ability of newer e cig to produce plenty of vapor has left the ability of the wicking system behind.. it now needs some help to feed the atomizer properly..

trog

 

[Linthorn]

A lot of people ask this same question. They are thinking about vaping like smoking. I know that I was pretty consistent about what I smoked. I would change brands and then stay with it for years. Not so with vaping. I don't stay with a juice/vaporizer combo for very long before I want something different. think about it like food. What is the perfect meal that you want 3 times a day, 7 days a week, forever? Nothing I can think of. With the choices we have vaping, we aren't limited to variations of the same theme. Enjoy the variety. It's not something to work around!

 

[YKruss]

Making nic juice out of snus? What! Details, Details man!
First I've heard of this.

Thanks to Tropical Bob, there you go http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokeless-tobacco/33923-tobacco-e-cig.html

 

[Closet Toker]

I've been there, done it too.

Choosing the right atomizer is crucial for satisfaction.

I got the 901 atty for my Prodigy... I was unhappy with it.

Dropped another $30.00 and Now I have the 801.... much better.

The 801 holds liquid, doesn't leak, and the vapor is crazy.

The 801 is all I'll need.

.

 

[baby driver]

I suggest you stock up on high nic unflavored liquid. I get the 60mg from Nhaler. Read up on the DIY Liquid forum. You can either make your own from scratch, or doctor up what you have to get the right flavor and nic strength.

I am learning, and having a lot of fun. So far I have 3 flavors that I can make and really like a lot: Peach (w/ tobacco flavor mixed in -- my current all day vape), Kalhua which is fabulous for after dinner, and a nice light Mimosa for mornings.

Since the flavor is just for you, you have an opportunity to perfect your recipes in various ways: PG vs VG is the first experiment. Go on from there.

Lorann's sells dram bottles of concentrated flavor for about $1.50 each. An ebay seller sells them even cheaper. The sky's the limit!

 

[JenJen]

I suggest you stock up on high nic unflavored liquid. I get the 60mg from Nhaler. Read up on the DIY Liquid forum. You can either make your own from scratch, or doctor up what you have to get the right flavor and nic strength.

I can also recommend Nhaler's juices! The High Voltage are killers! And service is top notch!

 

[JustMeAgain]

Ok, Angus, went atty shopping this morning and made an offer on 15 of them, so hopefully I’ll have a better supply soon. How many do you consider an ample supply?

Snapcat, I think maybe I do need to rotate more in the flavor thing. Good suggestion. I think I’ve gotten so fixated on vanilla that I really need to expand my horizons. I loved Sweet Dreams Vanilla back in the good ole days before FDA decided I must be immature – an adult liking vanilla - who ever heard of such a thing - and pulled Sweet Dreams out of the game.

Sheerluck, you’re right too…I need to look at this as more of a hobby and not a race. I will get what I can together, and suck it up as best I can if the worst happens. I had seen the thread Ykruss mentioned and yesterday I put a snus in w/some glycerine, a bit of everclear, and some flavoring. It’s still marinating as we speak. My atty’s aren’t big enough to put the snus in (at least until I get an 801 kit that I made an offer on today) but there’s a nice nicotine soup color to the glycerin now, so I’m going to see what that’s like.

Trog, I’ve been wondering something about the cartridges. This is a random thought, so don’t laugh, but what would happen if a small thread of the atty material (steel wool, right?) was inserted into the filler and ran down and wrapped around the atty? Would the whole thing explode? Just curious.

Jen and Baby mentioned Nhaler’s liquid. I do have a bottle of the 48 mg, but I just haven’t been that great at mixing. I ordered some more Lorann’s yesterday, and got some of the sweeter flavors than what I’ve been able to find in Hobby Lobby. I think that may help w/my DIY stuff. I also have some of the high voltage from Nhaler.

So, now that I’ve got a bit more stock on the way, I may be able to start to relax a bit. If not, I guess I’ll start breathing into a paper sack soon.

BTW, Baby, those recipes you listed all sound really good especially the Kalhua. I’m going to go and see if I can find them in the DIY recipes forum.

Thanks ya’all…I needed a bit of hand holding today.

 

[frankie1]

If I felt like I could do this in a more leisurely way, I'd be ok, but with the possibility of impending doom, I have become obsessed with the idea that I have to get it worked out immediately, so that makes me spend a ridiculous amout of time in this forum.

I'd really like to get settled and have a life again. Can you give yourself a heart attack trying to quit smoking?

Am I the only one driving myself crazy with this?8-o Or am I just making too big of a deal of it all?

I feel your pain! I have spent untold hours and feel just like you do! sheesh!

 

[trog100]

Trog, I’ve been wondering something about the cartridges. This is a random thought, so don’t laugh, but what would happen if a small thread of the atty material (steel wool, right?) was inserted into the filler and ran down and wrapped around the atty? Would the whole thing explode? Just curious.

to cut a long story short.. no.. he he

trog

 

[AngusATAT]

Thanks to Tropical Bob, there you go http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokeless-tobacco/33923-tobacco-e-cig.html

That's not what I was talking about. Somewhere in the DIY juice section there is a recipe to make e-juice out of snus. You have to soak the snus in a bit of alcohol and PGor VG, then let it sit for a while to leach out the nicotine. Then use that as a base.

If anyone knows the thread I am talking about, help me out here. I gotta go search for it.

 

[AngusATAT]

Ok, Angus, went atty shopping this morning and made an offer on 15 of them, so hopefully I’ll have a better supply soon. How many do you consider an ample supply?

Well, if we are talking a worst case scenario and all-out ban, I would say buy as many as you possibly can, every chance you get.

I don't know exactly how scarce attys will be when the FDA issues a ban. The worst that could happen is you won't have to buy attys for a long time. But if the ban hammer comes down hard and you run out of attys, it's game over.

So only you can say how many attys is enough. Personally, I'm going to buy as many as I can, as often as I can, until we find out one way or another.

 

[AngusATAT]

Here it is!

DIY Nic Juice

I may try this fairly soon, just to see how well it works.

 

[JustMeAgain]

I feel your pain! I have spent untold hours and feel just like you do! sheesh!

Exhausting, ain't it? I wish I'd found out about all this sooner and I wish I'd not waited so long before ordering my first ecig. Then I could be sitting around with barrels and vats of liquid (by now I would have figured how to store it on tap ) and my enormous collection of devices.

Keep repeating this with me...We will NOT give up. Nevereverevereverever.

Ya with me?

 

[JustMeAgain]

Here it is!

DIY Nic Juice

I may try this fairly soon, just to see how well it works.

I hadn't seen that one - that actually what I'm doing - at least the part before the apple - on a teeny tiny scale. I put one snus pouch in a shot glass & enough VG/Everclear/Flavor to cover. I'm going to see what that tastes like.

I really hadn't thought of it on a grand scale yet. Scubadan is always up to something interesting, though.

I will continue to add to my atty supply until I feel it can be fairly called a stockpile.

 

[AngusATAT]

I hadn't seen that one - that actually what I'm doing - at least the part before the apple - on a teeny tiny scale. I put one snus pouch in a shot glass & enough VG/Everclear/Flavor to cover. I'm going to see what that tastes like.

I really hadn't thought of it on a grand scale yet. Scubadan is always up to something interesting, though.

I will continue to add to my atty supply until I feel it can be fairly called a stockpile.

That's probably the method I'd use if the FDA makes finding nic juice impossible. Unless someone came up with something better that's cheap.