Amazing Panasonic 18650 deal for my GG Peeps!

[ChaosAffect]

Hey, guys. I stumbled across this on one of the Flashlight forums. We really owe a lot to those flashlight boys when it comes to batteries. This guys selling Panasonic 18650s, 2350mAh, $17.50 for 10! I just placed an order with him, and I've seen people raving all over the forum he's active at the the batteries are great. Thought y'all might want a piece of the action.

Panasonic 18650 2350mAh batteries | BudgetLightForum.com

The wonders of being cheap! You search a little harder, you find some amazing deals online.

Edit: PM'd 'ReverendJim' over at BudgetLightForum last night, had a reply in my box this morning, sent PP ($24 shipped for 10 Panasonic 2350mAh 18650 batteries!) and received a shipping notification less than 30 minutes later.

 

[wfarrar33]

Great Deal! sounds like they are unprotected, can someone tell me the risk if any for using these in my GG?

 

[Repent]

If they are unprotected you should use a fuse kit in your GG, otherwise you're asking for trouble. I read an article where a guy took an unprotected batt off his charger, stuck it into his flashlight, turned it on and it literally blew up. When they short and vent they release a tremendous amount of energy/hot gasses and flame. That energy has to go somewhere....Stick to protected batts.

Would one incident be worth your savings?

I know there are other variables involved such as battery chemistry, stacking, etc. I'm speaking as a general rule here and I am by no means a battery expert.

Just checked and yes they are unprotected.

Great Deal! sounds like they are unprotected, can someone tell me the risk if any for using these in my GG?

 

[ChaosAffect]

Unprotected batteries really shouldn't be an issue in a vented PV. Keep in mind AW IMRs are unprotected, and they're a very popular battery.

 

[Repent]

Unprotected batteries really shouldn't be an issue in a vented PV. Keep in mind AW IMRs are unprotected, and they're a very popular battery.

Very true I had forgotten. Wasn't there something about them that made them "safer" though? I know that Li-Po batteries use a "safe chemistry" that makes them safer as I remember they have no protection circuit?

I do use AW IMR's 18650 in my GG but I bought the fuse kit to be safe. My Provari has protection built-in the electronics. I like that feature and hope the upcoming GGVV will have such a feature.

 

[wfarrar33]

so to order i will need to create an account over there and PM him?

 

[ChaosAffect]

From everything I've heard the real danger comes from stacking unprotected batteries, not a single. Especially in a PV like the GGTS these should be fine. AAMOF, one of the posts in that thread was a guy saying that he's got AW IC 2900mAh 18650s, and these Panasonics actually perform better!

Very true I had forgotten. Wasn't there something about them that made them "safer" though? I know that Li-Po batteries use a "safe chemistry" that makes them safer as I remember they have no protection circuit?

I do use AW IMR's 18650 in my GG but I bought the fuse kit to be safe. My Provari has protection built-in the electronics. I like that feature and hope the upcoming GGVV will have such a feature.

Yep. It's like a 30 second process, ReverendJim seems to be pretty on the ball. It's a painless process.

so to order i will need to create an account over there and PM him?

 

[wfarrar33]

Yep. It's like a 30 second process, ReverendJim seems to be pretty on the ball. It's a painless process.

yeah he got back to me STAT

shipping is $6.50 so it ends up being less than $25 for 10 of them. Hope i dont blow up

 

[fright88]

Thanks for posting. This is tempting but I just don't think I will ever use 10 of them. Ahh well maybe if they are still available when I get paid and have some disposable funds I will see about either buying them or trying to get another pweson or 2 interisted in splitting the price up.

 

[ChaosAffect]

Np. From my perspective this is about what you'd pay for a couple of Trustfires, and even if I don't use them I can hook up some peeps that are new to vaping. I can't really see myself using 10 of them either, but 5? Sure. Then I'll have 5 that I can just give away, and still feel like I got an awesome deal.

 

[silentt]

awesome price. Just PM'ed him and asked to buy 10

thanks chaos

 

[ChaosAffect]

Glad I could give just a little back, y'all. Of course, if these suck for some reason I'm gonna feel like a real ..... lol.

 

[wfarrar33]

ill send you 5 of mine for half what i paid fright

 

[silentt]

Just talked to him and he's quick with responding. I bought 10

I will send you a couple if you need also Fright.. and that suede bag I owe you

 

[dspin]

You only get what you pay for::

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

Very true I had forgotten. Wasn't there something about them that made them "safer" though? I know that Li-Po batteries use a "safe chemistry" that makes them safer as I remember they have no protection circuit?

I do use AW IMR's 18650 in my GG but I bought the fuse kit to be safe. My Provari has protection built-in the electronics. I like that feature and hope the upcoming GGVV will have such a feature.

 

[ChaosAffect]

Personally, I don't agree with that. The Panasonics are well known to be great batteries, and usually aren't that expensive if you get them off eBay. This is a ridiculous deal, though. I see too many people with expensive mods and Trustfires just because they're protected. I once again refer to the fact that AW IMRs are unprotected cells too.

To cause a single cell to even outgas you've got to have a prolonged short going on. That's rare as it is, but you've got to be a real newb not to notice the fact that your entire mod has suddenly gotten VERY hot. Finally, venting means that even if batteries do outgas they won't go catastrophic.

I've heard the 'Unprotected Batteries Might Blow Up In My Face' concern over and over again. How many people do you know that have had this happen? I've seen a couple of catastrophic battery failures, but they're almost always in unattended mods, and there's usually a pretty hefty amount of User Error involved.

You only get what you pay for::

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

 

[Rick.45cal]

AW IMR's are a Li-Mn battery, not the same as a Li-ion. Just FYI different chemistry battery.

Y'all stay safe... I know me, and if a battery (single or stacked) is going to blow up, it would be me that it happens too. I trust Imeo's venting, but that would still be a very horrible experience.

Safer chemistry batteries tend to "vent" before bursting. Li Ion batteries sometimes go without a warning. Keep reading in those flashlight forums, you will find instances. Yes a lot of them are stacked batteries, but not all

 

[fright88]

Ha thanks for the offer guys I don't really "need" any more but if they are just going to sit on a shelf I wouldn't mind picking up a few as backups. Right now I am trying to slowly sock up on 18350s for the VV mod in case I don't get any extension tubes.

 

[pwyll]

... I read an article where a guy took an unprotected batt off his charger, stuck it into his flashlight, turned it on and it literally blew up. ...

I have read a thread on one of the flashlight forums, and the "exploding straight off the charger incident" happened when the fellow inadvertently recharged a primary battery rather than a rechargeable one. Totally different chemistry and the recharging process evidently (no one seems compleatly sure) short-circuited the cell itself so that it released the full charge instantly.

 

[Stinky Uncle Ed]

I'm not trying to derail this thread, I just wondered something:

Which side of a battery vents, should that be facing towards the vent holes in the GGTS?

If I have two stacked 18350's in a GGTS, can the one towards the front still vent correctly?