An open letter to the Family.

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Amraann

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I agree with opsguy! I cannot wait to check out the new 650 mah Zeus!

I found V4L because a friend of mine is a very happy customer. She used the vapor titan and when she decided to switch to another product that V4L carries she very generously sent me her supply of titans along with a bunch of carts. I am very happy with the products.
So much so that I ordered a zues when it first came out. I love it but, a smaller one would be awesome!

Thanks V4L For great products. :)
 

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I would LOVE to see Java Junction come back. I have not been able to find ANYTHING near it for my all day vape. And believe me, I have been trying. V4L has been my main source of batts, tanks, & cartos. But I have been using clearos with an adapter. So in summary, bring back Java Junction and add clearos and I will be a happy camper.
 

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    What about either a loyalty discount or a affiliate program, could offer a discount once someone had placed so many orders or reach a money amount, or where people have a affiliate code and when someone makes 1st order using that code, the sender receives a discount for it. Encourages people to order more and stay loyal once got, but they get a discount, so it's a win win for customer and V4L.
     

    MissEmma

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    I would LOVE to see Beach Bum return!!!

    As for the batteries, right now I'm loving the Zeus. I got the 1300 MAH to try. Wow!! Just as great as the original, with amazing battery life. Since I don't use that exclusively, I can get easily a week from that battery. If I used it only, I'm sure I would easily get 2 days without charging. That's saying something for me. The response of the automatic batteries blows me away every time. As I said before, no primer puffs. It just WORKS!!
    And the smileos are great as well. They hold plenty of juice, so there isn't constant refilling.

    I hoped you had made a device that would lure me back into the fold. So far, this is working ;)
     

    BHam

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    Something like this is being tested for sure already. I can't say when it will be launched on a full scale but we've been testing a rewards program based on something like this for 3 months now. We just have to make sure all the loopholes and kinks are worked out ;).

    What about either a loyalty discount or a affiliate program, could offer a discount once someone had placed so many orders or reach a money amount, or where people have a affiliate code and when someone makes 1st order using that code, the sender receives a discount for it. Encourages people to order more and stay loyal once got, but they get a discount, so it's a win win for customer and V4L.
     

    waylonjessi4ever

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    I would like to see an atomizer and drip shield i could use on all my 808 stuff from v4l without having to use a 510 adaptor.
    I still use v4l cartos ( dont like the taste of tanks ) and i use my v4l hardware religiously and have not seen anything comparable for the prices .
    Confession ,i did get bored with the juices and branched out ( dont flame me people ) jmho ...started tasting really chemically to me .If you are going to compete with the usa made juice companies your'e going to have to use usa made everything as thats what people want now. Consistancy is super important and while i was loyal to smilin special ,i just was not getting consistency .Sorry i cannot be on the rah rah team but I am just being honest . Best to all and i will eternally be grateful for v4l and morandir's help .
     

    Matt Dances

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    wow this makes me super excited for the future of V4L! and all the sweet and new devices and designs i get to try :) more colors for the DAVs is a nice touch i would love a red one for sure.

    bringing back the USA line is also great news hopefully at some point we can keep/bring back the outlaw apple flavor :) and also the ones you mentioned in your post.

    and did i read a ZEUS in 650? and color? WOW!!! that'll probably end up being the battery used most out of all the ones i own (I CANT WAIT). i love all the ZEUS batteries now but like you mentioned i am one of those people that feel they are a little big. i always preferred smaller batteries which is why i end up using my 650 DAV most times but the Zeus in 650 LITERALLY just made my day and i CANNOT wait to get this.


    for the threads i really have problem with the 808 threading V4L uses now.. i mean a 510 would be cool but for me personally it's not really a big deal the ones available now are freaking outstanding. either way though whatever you guys decide too do i'm sure is going to be awesome.

    i'm not really into tanks so i really don't have any input or suggestions on those. out of all the ones i ever tried they were either a hit or miss some would work very well while others would just leak no matter what i tried and i hated them.

    i'm glad to see new tips for the smilomizers in the works i'm looking forward to those BIG TIME. i love the rubber tips now and i got used to biting down and chewing on them but at times i wish they were just a little smaller. so being able to grab some new tips and switch them every now and again is going to sweet. Will the new tips be in color or just plain black? colored tips would be cool but really in the end for me i just want a device that works great and is comfortable.

    in the end no matter what VAPOR4LIFE you guys are the best out there and your customer service is seriously on another level. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK and the wait for these new items is going to KILL ME!! lol thanks again
     
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    dedi

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    I would LOVE to see Beach Bum return!!!

    As for the batteries, right now I'm loving the Zeus. I got the 1300 MAH to try. Wow!! Just as great as the original, with amazing battery life. Since I don't use that exclusively, I can get easily a week from that battery. If I used it only, I'm sure I would easily get 2 days without charging. That's saying something for me. The response of the automatic batteries blows me away every time. As I said before, no primer puffs. It just WORKS!!
    And the smileos are great as well. They hold plenty of juice, so there isn't constant refilling.

    I hoped you had made a device that would lure me back into the fold. So far, this is working ;)


    Ditto on the Beach Bum Miss Emma!!!!
     

    dedi

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    As someone earlier sd I do a lot of research and sit back and wait before I make buying decisions.
    For that reason I have not tried a Zeus as I have heard too many negatives. (waiting on "the bug's" to be worked out :)
    I think b/c of the darkness of the juices I prefer that the cartos nor the smileos work very well for me, just something I have to put up with or change and search for lighter juices.
    I wd love to see the USA juices return (I still have been buying Aces and Eights) however, Beach Bum was an all time fav.
    In the past couple of years I have been buying juice and odds and ends from other sources including using 901 adapters since there are limited offerings in the 808's.
    As everyone has mentioned of course a faster charger for the DAV's but understand the reasoning for the hold up. I do believe Smilin has our best interest at heart regarding safety.
    I think I got sidetracked b/c some of the products started to lose consistency. However, V4L continues to have my 100% business for batteries and who know's maybe I will try a Zeus! lol
     

    AaronY

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    The zeus is a great idea. Coming out with one with a smaller form factor will make them ever more amazing. Moving the line to 510 will make your product more desirable in theory for people that already invested in alot of 510 stuff. But I think the theory is false. People can by an adapter to go 808 to 510 for less a fancy cappuccino costs at Starbucks. Keep doing what you are doing. You are really innovating and coming out with great stuff.
     

    Sallyem

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    I'm loving the DAV's too, and the smileos! Would love to see the DAV's and smileos in other color options and maybe alternate tips for the smileos that we could order. I can live with what you already have in these areas though... ;)

    But what I really really truly truly would LOVE to have back is JAVA JUNCTION! I am missing it big time!

    Thanks for all you guys do! xoxo

    I am missing the Java Junction as well ! Does anyone know perhaps another company that has a similar flavor? If so, please private message me.
     

    MystStick

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    I am missing the Java Junction as well ! Does anyone know perhaps another company that has a similar flavor? If so, please private message me.

    Salleyem.... we have looked high and low and can't find anything that compares to Java Junction (not even on the Halo line), so if you happen to stumble upon one that is as good, please share! Fingers crossed that V4L will come up with something equally as awesome!
     

    katz-in-boots

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    Personally I do not think V4L should branch into other threading - there are plenty of 510 products out there. I know they are popular and they are the most readily available in Australia - but V4L's 808 stuff is way better IMHO.

    I would love to see the DAV & Zeus available in a wide range of colours now, and I love the idea of the patterns, they are awesome. Matching smileos for all those might be a bit much, but they'd look cool.

    It is sad that the family feel has gone. Used to be newbies joining every week, and the good people here giving them the support & advice needed to kick the nasties. I came to V4L products because of the wonderful forum here.

    How can we get that back - I wish I knew.

    edit: I'm not a fan of he USA juice line; tried 2-3 but they weren't for me. I would try Pescemker Peppermint, but would like to see a 0mg in the line - previously 6mg was the lowest. I usually vape 4mg but want to try getting down to 0mg & having only 1 juice instead of 2.
     
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    A couple of months ago started thinking 'bout the Zeus. Not in any hurry so just was checking things out. Getting a price comparison in my head, etc. Then on FB I have noticed at least once a week someone is nicely complaining about the Zeus going belly up and you have to go through the steps to explain to them how it is under warranty and send it back, etc. That concerns me, maybe it shouldn't. But I want a quality product. I do know it is guaranteed and can be sent back, but that is a hassle to the consumer. And all you get is an exchange anyway. So was looking at the DAV as well. At this point I'm waiting and not purchasing either, as time goes on that may change. The smileos go on sale periodically but they are rather on the expensive side in the grand scheme of things. So again, I'm waiting.

    My personal experience with vapor was a nightmare. I got a battery and some cartos. Only 2 cartos were good out of 5 the other 3 were dry and burnt.

    Then I went and ordered their OMG mod. The adapter nor battery worked properly so I was granted a return. I paid return shipping which was priority mail. They sent me a return first class mail taking a week to arrive. Not only that, they only sent back the mod and battery. I sent it all back but the tank. On the return I got another broken OMG mod. I informed them again and I was told I could have a refund.

    Well I got refund, minus this and that and my return shipping.

    I did not even get an apology. I ended up spending 30 bucks in shipping and minus the money they kept. I was told tough luck that's the way it rolled.

    Well if I buy something I expect it to work, not spend another 15 bucks in postage. Only to be told tough luck. Had I known I would have never purchased from this company.

    I personally feel they are con artists. They run specials and sales yet they raise the price on it to equal the original price or the coupon can not be used on most items.

    Pretty much watch this hand while my other steals your wallet.

    AND

    like I said half the stuff is faulty and if you watch them. Half of the people on their forum (my opinion) are plants to get us noobs to buy more from them. Same people buying hundreds of dollars in supplies daily. I can't see someone (same persons) spending that much cash daily on ecigs and supplies unless that v4l is for the rich and famous.

    Wait, I was told I was lucky they were taking the tank back because policy stated it was non-returnable. What????? It never worked in the first place so how could one not get a full refund.
     
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    Mary Kay

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    Custo, I have been a member of ECF for 4 1/2 years and a loyal customer of V4L for 4 years. I resent being called a "Plant". I have no affialiation with the company at all, except for being a customer. I never lie about my experience with V4L because I have no need to. They have been good to me and I return the favor with the truth. I don't complain on any forum, I take it up with customer service but if I had been cheated I would speak out because I have friends in this forum.
    You got a bad deal..take to BHam when he comes back and see if it can be resolved.
     

    katz-in-boots

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    Half of the people on their forum (my opinion) are plants to get us noobs to buy more from them. Same people buying hundreds of dollars in supplies daily. I can't see someone (same persons) spending that much cash daily on ecigs and supplies unless that v4l is for the rich and famous.

    I really resent that accusation. I, for one, am not a plant. I do buy lots of stuff - but not every day. I will go for a while without buying anything, but then restock. I will also buy new products that appeal to me. Definitely not rich & famous, but a very happy & loyal V4Ler - with good reason. Great products, great customer service.

    Yes, I have had items not work, but always received replacements where requested. Sorry to hear you have had such bad experiences, but there is a reason we sing their praises.
     

    Nailz

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    Companies are not going to please every single customer, doesn't matter what business they are in. Sorry you had a bad experience, but just because you have, doesn't mean the people praising V4L are plants, I have only been vaping for just over 4 months, and been a customer with V4L for about 3 months, yes I can't say I've not had any problems, but no company can test every single product they send out, what matters to me is they resolve the problem, which they have for me. If you look at my posts on ECF, only a very small amount of them are on the V4L forums, if I was a plant I would have most of my posts here.

    I do not spend 100's at any site, and I have not seen anyone claiming they are, so not sure where you are getting that from. I only have 5 V4L batteries, tanks and some replacement carto's, I don't think that is over the top.
     
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