Analog Smoker New to Forum/Personal Vaping

[Trypno]

Hello all, I'm feeling pretty tentative about this first post. I'm an analog smoker that's new to Personal vaping and live in an area not particularly conducive or "in" with electronic cigarettes just yet (Colorado Springs.) As such, I'm finding my search for a good personal vaporizer to be a bit overwhelming; I'm awash with the various types of tanks, mods, batteries, styles, and prices available, and I'm not sure where to begin.
There is one store in my area (two stores, same chain) that I have come to realize is a reseller. I say this because so far their website would lead one to believe THEY manufacture the products, (business policy enforcement in my area is pretty loose.)

Being that I'm a newbie, I want to ensure I'm getting myself the highest quality product possible, without getting ripped off by an overpriced retailer that controls the local market so far.

I've done some research, and believe I've come up with a list of preferences for what I'm looking for in a personal vaporizer:

•Durability: I'm pretty rough with my stuff, I need something built to last

•Variable Voltage: Something about this just fits for me, I don't trust myself with a mechanical mod just yet

•Liquid amount: The more the tank can hold, the better for me.

•Length of Use: The longer the battery and unit lasts, the better for me. I realize this means I will have to compromise with size, but this is no issue for me.

•Price: $200 and below is my preferred price range on this

•Pyrex bottom feeder tank (or just a pyrex tank): These tanks seem to be all the rage amongst vapers, and from what I've read about durability, quality, ease of use, and cleanliness, this style of tank seems to fit perfectly with what I'm looking for.

•Starter Kit: This isn't a biggie for me, if it turns out it would be cheaper to order various parts from various locations then I'll do that.

I realize there will be gives and takes, trade offs and sacrifices necessary, I accept that, but what I'm really looking for is a few helpful pushes in the right direction, and to get as close to those targets as possible.

Again, I'm a newbie here, so any advice AT ALL is greatly appreciated, thank you all, once again, nice to meet you.

Trypno

 

[ZeroOhms]

Welcome to ECF. Good luck with quitting!

Yes, there are lots of options but don't let that discourage you. Take it slow and start with whatever works for you. Key in personal vaping is "personal".
If you are willing to invest $200 into this, you can skip the starter kits and go straight to something dependable and long term.
ProVari Mini Variable Voltage Electronic Cigarette Starter Kit V2
Combination of ProVari and ProTank is premium set that even a long time vapers would use. This is especially nice if you have hard time finding local resources.
For replacement atomizer head, you can buy them cheap from DV. They are reliable online retailer with lots of good feedback.
Kanger ProTank & Evod Coil Replacement **5 Pack - 1.8ohms

If I was new to vaping, I would buy this setup in a heartbeat. Also would strongly recommend to all of my friends. You can thank me later.
By the way, the ProVari kit link is directly to the manufacture. So, 100% genuine and possibly the best price you can get. If you want have a bit of fun, revisit your local store and ask them how much ProVari+Battery+Charger+ProTank would cost.

 

[Dellamorte]

Hi there! Good to see a a-cig smoker wanting to start vaping!

If I were you, I wouldent spend that kind of money on my first kit.

I would go for a decent clearomizer (such as en Evod) with an VV ego type battery. First try a setup like that, although its a starter kid you need to gain experience before you go in for the full swing.

I really appreciated Pbusardo's video's when I first started with Vaping. He liked to tell people to take the "journey", start with a starter kit (a decent one), experience some liquids, then if you like it you can start with wrapping your first coil. Then go for some more advanced gear and go modding yourself.

Check this out: Taste Your Juice | BEGINNERS GUIDE TO E-CIGS AND E-CIG TECH

If you start to "heavy", you might bump into issues that will maybe make you fall back into analogs..

Just my 2 cents bro!

 

[CreepyLady]

Hi and welcome to ECF!

Definitely look through both posts above, the links and info. I will tell you if I were to do it over from the beginning - I would buy the Provari. If you are set that you are going to vape and quit smoking - that will be the most cost effective in the long term - however- if you are at all unsure about vaping, get the cheaper starter kit (a katana kit at vapor dojo x2 for 30 bucks will start you off) to test the waters first.

Good luck and happy vaping!

 

[ZeroOhms]

Hi there! Good to see a a-cig smoker wanting to start vaping!

If I were you, I wouldent spend that kind of money on my first kit.

I would go for a decent clearomizer (such as en Evod) with an VV ego type battery. First try a setup like that, although its a starter kid you need to gain experience before you go in for the full swing.

I really appreciated Pbusardo's video's when I first started with Vaping. He liked to tell people to take the "journey", start with a starter kit (a decent one), experience some liquids, then if you like it you can start with wrapping your first coil. Then go for some more advanced gear and go modding yourself.

Check this out: Taste Your Juice | BEGINNERS GUIDE TO E-CIGS AND E-CIG TECH

If you start to "heavy", you might bump into issues that will maybe make you fall back into analogs..

Just my 2 cents bro!

While I agree with taking things slow and try out small, things are changing. So many of brand new people going from nothing to full scale setup within a month. Two things that might be help accelerate the journey. Technology on newer devices are much better and even the full scale setups are pretty straight forward use now. Changing disposable clearomizer isn't that different from changing atty head on larger tanks. Also, people are getting educated faster with forums like ECF. This accelerate the learning curve and pushes the expectation level higher faster.
So, with all these acceleration, people taking the traditional step by step method ends up spending lots of money in short period time. How many times have we heard someone mentioning "I started with eGo first week, bought cheap APV on second week, and ended up buying premium stuff by end of the month". If people are shortening the journey from months to weeks, why not just skip them.
Another big factor is, level of help you can get online is tremendous now. Hence, you don't have to tinker and figure out the stuff by yourself and force to take the step by step approach. Buy the "good" stuff from the gate and if you get stuck, just ask here. there are people from all over the world around the clock willing to help.

I might get lots of heat for above statement but I just think maybe its time for us to rethink our approach.

 

[Dellamorte]

While I agree with taking things slow and try out small, things are changing. So many of brand new people going from nothing to full scale setup within a month. Two things that might be help accelerate the journey. Technology on newer devices are much better and even the full scale setups are pretty straight forward use now. Changing disposable clearomizer isn't that different from changing atty head on larger tanks. Also, people are getting educated faster with forums like ECF. This accelerate the learning curve and pushes the expectation level higher faster.
So, with all these acceleration, people taking the traditional step by step method ends up spending lots of money in short period time. How many times have we heard someone mentioning "I started with eGo first week, bought cheap APV on second week, and ended up buying premium stuff by end of the month". If people are shortening the journey from months to weeks, why not just skip them.
Another big factor is, level of help you can get online is tremendous now. Hence, you don't have to tinker and figure out the stuff by yourself and force to take the step by step approach. Buy the "good" stuff from the gate and if you get stuck, just ask here. there are people from all over the world around the clock willing to help.

I might get lots of heat for above statement but I just think maybe its time for us to rethink our approach.

I fully agree with everything you said. Better yet, im only on my 3rd month of vaping after 15+ years of smoking. I own 3 mech's with 2 on its way and im sub-ohming on my drippers..

So yes, I am "one of those" who went all the way in less then 4 weeks. BUT I rate myself a little more "freak" then others.. I watch every review out there, get in world of Ohms Law, and dont give up if stuff isnt working right away.

On the vaping forums in the Netherlands we keep having peepz who spend allot of money on stuff but want to give up because their clearomizers keep leaking or they keep having dry hits.

IMO, thats because its not "that easy" as it seems after watching a youtube vid.

People dont even think about safety (mech mods), the right batteries, or even more basic, the Niq level of their liquid.

Im just saying, be aware when youre just starting!

 

[pbusardo]

Hi there! Good to see a a-cig smoker wanting to start vaping!

If I were you, I wouldent spend that kind of money on my first kit.

I would go for a decent clearomizer (such as en Evod) with an VV ego type battery. First try a setup like that, although its a starter kid you need to gain experience before you go in for the full swing.

I really appreciated Pbusardo's video's when I first started with Vaping. He liked to tell people to take the "journey", start with a starter kit (a decent one), experience some liquids, then if you like it you can start with wrapping your first coil. Then go for some more advanced gear and go modding yourself.

Check this out: Taste Your Juice | BEGINNERS GUIDE TO E-CIGS AND E-CIG TECH

If you start to "heavy", you might bump into issues that will maybe make you fall back into analogs..

Just my 2 cents bro!

Thanks Dino! ;-)

 

[Boiler]

Thanks Dino! ;-)

Busardo lurks the newb forum!

 

[Baditude]

Many will not recommend a more expensive setup (like a Provari) for a beginner. However, you sound like an informed individual despite being new to vaping. Instead of going with a typical "starter setup" like a variable voltage Ego Spinner or Twist battery, I see no reason why a dedicated and informed "newbie" who has already dedicated the $200 or so funds to a known quality product shouldn't go straight to a Provari setup. You'll end up saving more money in the long run taking this approach. In the slim chance that the Provari isn't for you, they retain their value and you can easily resell it for nearly the amount that you paid for it new.

Concerning a Provari, just about anything you need to know about it can be found in this blog:

E-Cigarette Forum - Baditude - Blogs

FYI, PBusardo is frequently seen with his own Mini Provari.

 

[Trypno]

Wow, I gotta say I wasn't expect such quick responses, thanks everybody .

So I suppose I should include a little information on myself. I'm not entirely new to vaping per se, I'm an experienced hookah smoker and I've owned a couple of "cig-a-likes" in the past. My first venture into the wondrous world of vaping was about 4 years ago during the birth of the Ecig movement, I proudly dropped $70 on a sleek looking Smoke Fifty-One starter kit. Needless to say I quickly discovered I'd been ripped off and fell right back into analogs.

At the beginning of this month, 4 years after my first (awful) attempt to start vaping and quit analogs, I bought myself a VUSE Solo. Living in Colorado, I've been lucky enough to get my hands on some of the first commercial run models. The reason I chose the VUSE, and willingly chose to back Big Tobacco for my first dive back into vaping, was because Big Tobacco has had DECADES to master the analog cigarette, so right off the bat they have the experience with nicotine levels and smoke levels a vaper would need to quit smoking.

As I mentioned, so far it's been about two or three weeks since I had an analog cigarette thanks to VUSE, now I believe I'm ready to make the leap into an actual Personal Vape and shirk off Big Tobacco once and for all.

I'm definitely going to start looking into that Provari everyone's mentioned so far, as well as the Kanger's that have been brought up.

I should also mention, the less prone a product is to leaking, (o-rings and gaskets found in product to keep e-liquid in,) the more likely I am to purchase the product, I'm a bit clumsy and sometimes forgetful

Anyway, thanks again everybody, I'm glad to be here .

 

[Keeferes]

In my experience, I wish I would have skipped an ego style battery to start. Within a month I purchased a Vamo V5 (batteries, and charger), Protank 2, and an Anyvape Davide. Both tanks use the same coils as the Evod tank I already had. The difference between the Ego and the MOD was night and day. I would agree with start small until you know for sure this is for you, but at the same time don't start so small you risk being turned off and go head first back to analogs. I'm just under two months of vaping by the way. I also read here somewhere a good way to start off is allow your budget to equal what you were spending on analogs. This will allow you try alot of juice and accumulate gear. As you aquire new things, you'l find almost over night your spending will suddenly drop. This isn't the case for everyone, but is for most I have spoken with. Welcome aboard and ask all the questions you may come up with. There is a constant learning with this and the majority of folks here are more then willing to help out.

 

[Korzik]

I started with an eGo starter kit. Barely used it until I picked up a mini protank2. That is when I started the switch. I just picked up a MVP v2. And have 3 above basic toppers. The mini, a pro tank 3 and, that iClear30 that came with the MVP.

I really believe the MVP is a great place to start. Cheap $40-60. Built in large battery for ease of use. Variable voltage and wattage on the version 2. By no means will it be the last mod you need like a ProVari would be but, great value for the price.


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[Trypno]

I was checking out the MVP2 the other night based on advice I read in other threads (At this point, I must admit, much of what I know about ecig mods I've learned from lurking this forum for a few months, before finally introducing myself just yesterday *bashful*) and while that looks like a great product, and an awesome price...I'm not sure the side by side battery, bottle fed style of the MVP or even the REO is right for me...maybe for use just around the house, where I can leave it sitting upright at all times somewhere, but I need something less prone to spillage than those styles.

 

[kaldonia]

I was checking out the MVP2 the other night based on advice I read in other threads (At this point, I must admit, much of what I know about ecig mods I've learned from lurking this forum for a few months, before finally introducing myself just yesterday *bashful*) and while that looks like a great product, and an awesome price...I'm not sure the side by side battery, bottle fed style of the MVP or even the REO is right for me...maybe for use just around the house, where I can leave it sitting upright at all times somewhere, but I need something less prone to spillage than those styles.

Trypno,

I just started vaping after receiving a basic 900mah rig from my son for Christmas. You and I have about the same history on smoking and I just hated the idea of giving it up. This rig worked fine. I got a few different bottles of juice, all at 24mg/nic and proceeded to talk myself into it.

This week I decided I wasn't getting the right hit feel that was encouraging, so I went and picked up an MVP2 set up today and absolutely love it. The weight is great. It's solid. The vv/vw makes customizing my juice to the right hit is very easy. And the best thing is even with extra coils and gear, it came in at only $90.

Finding the right juice will now be my next challenge but my son set me up with BB and I love it, so finding something I like better will be tough.

 

[chikkaccino]

I wish I had known about the MVP v2 before picking up my first eGo batteries. I got it about my 2nd week of vaping and carried it everywhere I went for over 2 months before picking up a ProVari. Now the MVP v2 is my backup device, but I can't say much ill about it other than one day it's going to die and you can't change its battery, but at the price I paid for it ($40) it was well worth it.

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[Trypno]

Alright so what's the difference between the MVP iClear and the MVP V2?

 

[V^por Tr^il]

I would just like to say that I am relatively new to vaping as well. 13 1/2 days tobacco free and feeling great. I used an over the counter E pen and it was a good beginning experience. It really helped with the cravings. I felt ready to take the next step into a better unit and invested in the Innokin MVP V2, OMG it is at least 20x better than that little pen. Plus the battery lasted me over 2 days. 2600 mah is pretty good. But finding the right equipment is all about trial and error. Your doing the right thing by researching online, I also would like to recommend checking out Youtube and looking at some reviews. It really helped me out, especially Grimm Green. He seems so witty and yet informative. He has some great starter vids and tries hard not to talk above your level. good luck to ya.

 

[V^por Tr^il]

Trypno... You seem to be confusing different gear with others. The MVP and MVP V2 are your vaporizer bodies that have the batts and buttons . The Iclear is a style of tank . I clear 30 is what came with mine . its a multi wick 2 coil tank . Mine wasn't working so it's a good thing I ordered some Iclear 30s tanks at the same time. The Iclear 30s has the wicks inside what looks like a hole punched tube and it feeds to the top where the coils are. It has been working flawlessly. hope this helped a little

 

[V^por Tr^il]

Trypno,

I just started vaping after receiving a basic 900mah rig from my son for Christmas. You and I have about the same history on smoking and I just hated the idea of giving it up. This rig worked fine. I got a few different bottles of juice, all at 24mg/nic and proceeded to talk myself into it.

This week I decided I wasn't getting the right hit feel that was encouraging, so I went and picked up an MVP2 set up today and absolutely love it. The weight is great. It's solid. The vv/vw makes customizing my juice to the right hit is very easy. And the best thing is even with extra coils and gear, it came in at only $90.

Finding the right juice will now be my next challenge but my son set me up with BB and I love it, so finding something I like better will be tough.

Kaldonia, I finding the right juice for you is a daunting task indeed. I have tried at least 20 different flavors by dozens of different companies and I have 3 that I really like so far. My all time favorite right now is a Icy Lemon Drop. It really tastes like I am eating a Lemon Drop. Another is mixing 3/4 strawberry and 1/4 watermelon, delicious . I even got my coworker to question their analog after that concoction , keep your chin up and keep on vaping.

 

[newplague]

Hey Trypno, congrats on making the switch. Come stop by Reos Mods and see what we have to offer. If you are looking for a simple, bullet proof vape and a great community, stop in and say Hi.