Analogs and Noobs

[poetofisis]

Guys! Guys... (and gals. Don't mean to be sexist ...) We are all WAY too close to this. What is the big deal with amateurs using kr8's 510's and the like? Its like smoking back in the 80's all of a sudden. You're only cool if you vape a mod? I don't want to enrage anyone but to enlighten some. First off, I loved (love, rather) smoking. If I didn't, I would have quit long ago. That's what makes vaping so irresistible and addictive. Its the same concept without the negative consequences. Does my pv HAVE to look like a cig? No. Would I like it to? Too bloody right I do! If only to break the habit instead of aesthetics (though I find my volt sexy ).

Its been said before and I readily concur: it serves quite well at attracting the average smoker. Think about it... When you first started, did you want to put what appears to be an electric shaver or toothbrush in your mouth and zap the crap out of same strange liquid straight to the head? Granted I will, sure as the sun rises, eventually own darwin or Provari but if I had wanted (what seemed to me at the time) to put a big metal dildo in my mouth and puff on it, I would've converted my girlfriends vibrator! (Guys please don't do this as your girlfriend will surely beat the tar out of you if she comes home to find you smoking her pole!) (Moderators please feel free to inform me if this humor is too crude for the website and I shall gladly edit it out...)

I personally believe that smaller pv's are the perfect beginners tool. When one is starting out they are often short on cash, uncertain of the hobby, and helplessly ignorant of the world they have stumbled upon. We all have to start somewhere, why not in ones own comfort zone? (Go to your happy place!) Stupid joke, I know...

With that, I leave you to your own devices. Vape on, my brethren!​

 

[isoplus]

I agree. I don't think I would've been interested vaping if silver bullets or box mods were the only devices available. I wanted something that will be an easy transition from my analog smoking habit. My first e-cig was Greensmoke (paid $150 for it). After a while moved on to bloog maxfusion and stayed there for a while. It wasn't until recently that I started using mods. But even nowadays, IF there were a pen style e-cig which out performs big mods, I'd surely go for it. important thing is that whichever devices keep you away from analog cigarettes, those are the kewlest devices for you
yeah, vape on!

 

[Shadow102]

While I can't even call myself a noob in the vaping scene (haven't actually purchased my goodies yet) but someone who has spent a small fortune on hobbies in the past I can see both sides of the argument.

The new guys want/need something familiar to kick the habit of analogs, hence the 808's (what I'm buying) and the 510, and the nJoys, the Cig2O's, the Blu's, and the countless other gas station/kiosk rebrands. Most believe this is all they will ever need, some are right, some upgrade to bigger mods, and some fall of the wagon and go back to analogs.

The vets, pro's, "old-timers" have been through this phase already, and since they're still here, most have swapped up to bigger PV's, and mods, VV's, bottom/top feeders and other countless things that look more like a breathalyzer or belonging in the tool section of your local hardware store than anything close to what they were getting their nic fix with. These guys have spent $100's-$1,000's on their "hobby" (is hobby the right term here?) and want to have the new guys avoid this, or worse go back to analogs because they aren't getting the satisfaction they crave.

I think the best we, as a community, can do is inform them of this. Let them know that just because they aren't getting what they want out of that "cig-a-like" that there are other options besides going back to old habits. At the same time, preparing them with the knowledge of what else is available and that there is a likelihood that if they find vaping satisfying, that they'll probably end up spending more money on it as they get into it.

Like any hobby, the new guy is rarely going to start out with the best of the best, they're going to dabble a bit at first, see if they like it, and if they do, then they'll start the process.

For those wondering:
Hobbies I used to spend too much money on; paintball, hiking/camping, rock climbing, kayaking (flatwater), medieval reenactment (not that foam sword LARPing crap, live steel [actual combat grade weapons minus a sharp edge] and armor)

Hobbies I still spend too much money on: Cars(tuning), PC mods/building, PC Gaming, my gf (ok not really a hobby per se, but still rather expensive)

Edit: Wow I seriously get long winded in these thing don't I?

 

[Liv2Ski]

Hello poet. Yes you make some valid points and when I started out I wanted something that looked like a cig. Hell I even had auto batts. So whatever works to get someone off the smokes is all good. I have found though that for some (like me) it can and does turn into a hobby. One that since I am not smoking allows me to justify spending $$$$$ on really nice MOD's. In NY my habit was $15 dollars a day so that is a lot of justification . That is what I tell my wife anyway and I am sticking to it each time she .....es about another package or asks if I really need another PV.

As for the vib thing. It is already documented in a few posts. I have had a little idea for a product for a few months. I want to wire a cellphone buzzer into a nice tube MOD and get a silicone sleeve and market it as the "Vape and Play". That would put a whole new twist on theme night!!!!!

Use whatever PV works and happy vapes

 

[M2L32]

Thanks for starting this thread. This is my first post, and to be honest, I've been a little intimidated by the "experts" with very strong opinions about what is the "best" way to vape. Because today i'm officially one month analog free since receiving my starter kit in the mail, I thought it would be fitting to reply. I know that I would have gone back to analogs if I had tried something that didn't "feel" like a cigarette. As it was, it took me a little time to get used to the heavier weight and increased length even though I bought the shorter than standard KR808. I had to have something that I could hold in between my fingers while taking a corner and shifting gears (I have been chain smoking while driving for 14 years). I'm now trying all kinds of juice flavors and I bought an adapter to use a KR8 battery with a 510-T atomizer to be able to try out the liquids before filling a carto. Even though I'm getting really excited about all of the choices I still don't see myself using anything that would be too far from the feel of an analog. Well now that I've written a book I'll just say thanks again for keeping "noobs" like myself in mind when giving suggestions.

 

[poetofisis]

? Huh. Guess I was unaware you could spend too much on cars, paintball, and gaming. You can spend too much on your girl, (cleverly ducks her 30 pairs of shoes ) but never those things!

Seriously though, I'm ever grateful for the advice, wealth of knowledge, and genuine desire to help that this website and it's members faithfully engender. They are wise in their experience with their recommendations. Hell, they saved me from haplessly diving into the morbid, blood sucking pit that is greensmoke/V2/Whitecloud/Goldigger/etc. My only concern is that much of it tends to appear pushy, condescending, or confusing to the newcomer. Dunno. Just seen a lot of perplexed people on here and it had me concerned they may not return for simple errors we all commit from time to time. *shrug*

Vape n play! Lmao! Nice one! Noobs are what its all about, bud. If you can't enjoy something, share it with the world, and help the next guy who comes stumbling along in the dark then where is the continued enjoyment of said endeavor?

 

[dormouse]

I agree. Lotta mod and big battery pressure here. I vape 510 manuals and KR808D-1 manuals most of the time.

 

[Shadow102]

? Huh. Guess I was unaware you could spend too much on cars, paintball, and gaming. You can spend too much on your girl, (cleverly ducks her 30 pairs of shoes ) but never those things!

You won't realize it until you drop $2k on a set of rims then spend close to another $1k to wrap some rubber around them.

Or you spend $400 on a new marker (correct term for a paintball gun) then another $100 on paint that if you're lucky will last you a weekend.

Or you decide you really wanna see how good a game looks/plays at its fullest potential and drop $500 on a new GPU.

Yeah...needless to say I don't have that kind of money lying around too often anymore.

 

[Shadow102]

As for the vib thing. It is already documented in a few posts. I have had a little idea for a product for a few months. I want to wire a cellphone buzzer into a nice tube MOD and get a silicone sleeve and market it as the "Vape and Play". That would put a whole new twist on theme night!!!!!

I've already got this idea poking around in the back of my mind for the stealth or ninja vaper. It'll take some coercing of my friends with more electrical and metal fabrication expertise than myself, some more personal experience with vaping and the tech behind it, and I'm sure input from the guys here to pull it off though.

 

[poetofisis]

Go for that little invention bud! Great ideas sprout from tiny seeds... Sounds handy besides.

Yeah, I've shelled out more than I've cared too with markers, hoppers, jerseys, comp hardware, vehicular bling etc. Kinda fallen behind with at all as well, truth be told. Still enjoy the piss out of it, though! Boys n their toys...

 

[Shadow102]

Boys n their toys...

We never outgrow them, they just get bigger.

 

[Boodle]

I respect your difference of opinion for the most part. It's irritating that you insult those of us using mods insinuating we're vaping vibrators. Well ... ewwww. Not cool. My first thought was that you're on the Volt payroll.

I thought that because of the passive aggressive rant. There may be some zealous posters here attempting to help a noob bypass a learning curve that the new user may need to experience. So? Unlike your post, there is no malicious intent in helping others by offering too many options. It gets confusing for the new vaper. Most will wade through the data and choices. It's a big deal in their life. And most are inspired by the enthusiasm of the posters offering help.

You're using a good product. You overpaid but so what? I did too like many others. My mall kit was $190 and didn't last a week for satisfaction before I needed to upgrade or go back to smoking. MANY experience that with the Volt kit. That's where the passion comes in for many of those sharing options - to avoid that issue. Switching to vaping is life-altering and some want to share their opinions about better options.

I highly recommend a slim cigarette-looking kit with a $30 price tag just like the $70 Volt kit from trusted suppliers that are committed to making a reasonable profit without raping consumers. The Volt is rebranded like many others. There is no difference in that particular brand. It's marketing. As for recommending FatBatts for a new user, it's not much bigger than a cigarette and a kit is $45. I wish I'd known about those two options and more to make a far better, informed decision.

 

[poetofisis]

Point taken. My apologies if I came off a little too coarse. Merely felt as though something should be said in defense of others feeling overwhelmed. As for the volt, just got overzealous with my love of the lil blighter. For me it was game changing. And you're high if you think I paid 70 bucks for it. Only way I will throw down that kind of dough would be on a venerable vv mod. Which I think was one of my points. *shrug*

Not here to start brushfires man. Conflict is inevitable though my intent was to dispense with it. With that I'll gladly shut up.

 

[Boodle]

Nope, I'm not high. Well, at 24 mg maybe a little j/k. Glad you got a good deal on your PV. Not suggesting you to shut up. Thanks for the reply. Vape happy

 

[poetofisis]

Vape happy... Good advice. Ditto.

 

[VapahMan]

Very good point. I've recently started with a mini Volcano cig. It was one of the first mini PV's I saw. The switch from analogs to a small pv was almost effortless. I paid no attention to any of the larger models, heck! I didn't even see the mods. I'm only just starting to see a couple. As a young smoker who's smoked for years I can't imagine using something larger to replace my bad habit but that's just me. This stuff really will change things and save lives. I'm interested in what's out there for sure but if I hand my buddy an ego and say "try it" he might get a tad bit weird on me. Just my two cents! Happy Vaping guys!

 

[mafig]

i am only 5 months into vaping..from my photo below(l to r),i graduated from e-health cig to an EGO..that i will stay and just hope newer model on EGO style i want..the variable voltage EGO i am eyeing but will KIV as 650 mAh is to short vaping time...looking for at least 1000 mAh model..my e-liquid usage from 1 to 1 1/2 ml be4..now creep up to 2-2 1/2 ml daily with the tank system..& i am loving it..cloud of vapor with added VG..like most here we prepared for any emergency..our fear for any incident of whatever..we keep buying new kits/accessories and e-liquids by the Kg..hahaha..all $$ well spend & worth it..the new change from smoking to vaping, my health improve with each passing day..thank god for electronic cigarettes & ECF..regards mafig

 

[Wingapo]

I love my KR808D-1's. For $30 or so a travel kit with two batteries some cartomizers and a PCC you've got an all day vape system that can't be beat for size weight and convenience. So what if you have to change a battery and cartomizer or two over the day, is it really so hard to unscrew the two parts and screw two new ones together, are we really to the point where we are that lazy? Yet, sometimes I do like the feel of a chunk of metal like a Roughstack in my pocket with a 5ml tank on top as it makes me feel like I'm sucking on an old steam locomotive all day and out here in the old west it kind of matches the decor of most places. When I'm in town or near civilization I'll almost always go for the KR808D-1's as I'd rather vape than answer questions about vaping which can cut into my vape time. Out in the wilds I do rather like holding a big fat chunk of metal with a swimming pools worth of juice tanked to the top even though it can start to feel heavy in the pocket by the end of the day. The Ego is a good compromise for battery life and being able to pass it off as an unlit cigar in most situations. So to me it's all good as long as it gets that flavored nicotine loving into my lungs for as long as I need my fix. Then there's something like the pipe that is the GLV-2 which could prove rather useful in a mugging or during a bear attack. So it's up to each of us to find what works for us and for me it changes constantly what size battery I feel like shoving in my face at any given moment. I will say I've found it a lot easier to use KR808D-1's in the car when I'm driving than anything else as they're just lighter and easier to handle and I also don't worry so much about people thinking Im crazed enough to be doing something that looks illegal either. If I'm going to feel paranoid about something I'd want to be paranoid for a valid reason.

 

[Bdbodger]

I use an ecig all day so a cigarette type is not good for me it does not last long enough especially at work and it had to be refilled every 1/2 hour with a small cartridge . I did start with one that looked like a cigarette but only two batteries meant also smoking analogs after the batteries where gone . It is a progression you start with one that looks like a cigarette then need one like an ego for battery life . Then you visit the provari web site over and over again and one day you want one and can't wait . Stop when you get to the ego stage . Maybe spring for the ego booster but then stop . Don't come back to this site ever again or you will find yourself with a mod or three in no time at all .

 

[Wingapo]

Too late! ECF's already got most of us. My new goal in life is to suck on every battery known to man, as long as it has an atty or carto attached.