Analogs and Noobs

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wizard10000

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...Hobbies I still spend too much money on: Cars(tuning), PC mods/building, PC Gaming, my gf (ok not really a hobby per se, but still rather expensive)

I'm a PC hardware geek myself - overclocked Core i7 desktop PC upstairs that mainly gets used for video rendering and a fairly well-tricked out HP netbook that gets about 90% of my computer use. Most of my gaming is done on the PS3 or the Xbox 360 I'm not really into PC gaming - besides, although I work in Windows I quit running it at home more than three years ago :D

If you are a hardware geek that 808 ain't gonna keep you interested long ;)
 

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The benefits of a mod are beyond contestation. Can't wait to get one, honestly. The dildo remark was for humor. Got to ad mit, coming from a cig, it does look a bit funny seeing people smoke one... I just don't think its always the right thing for beginners. Its been tough helping my gf quit. She's doing much better now that she's got her volt and getting used to the things I've passed along from all of you (eternal thanks, by the way). I just know a mod wouldn't have cut it for her. Was awkward enough for me at first, anything other than a quality kr8 would've been game over for my queen...
 

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I, for one, thought your initial post was HYSTERICAL ... and I'm a 58 year old woman ... so don't sweat the dildo reference. I'm still chuckling over it ... :) Not everyone has our "refined" sense of humor!

I wonder if there's a market for mods encased in latex? Now I gotta go write a business plan ;)

I can't see pulling one out at a party, though.

Well, maybe at one of *those* kinda parties :D
 

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I can tell you from experience still as a smoker, about 4 months before I found ECF a friend gave me some sort of mod, a quick explanation and thought I would start vaping. Well I couldn't get it to work so in the tool box it went and on the way home I stopped and bought some analogs.

Fast forward 4 months and one of the tech news sites had an article on the NZ study of e-cigs, so I started searching out e-cigs and found ECF and through a lot of reading decided on a DSE801/BE112. It was about a month later that I decided on getting a Janty Stick and have been using that type ever since.

It just chaps my hide to no end to see someone suggesting an advanced mod for someone looking to get their first e-cig, just because you've figured out how these things work doesn't mean everyone else has. I always suggest a simple e-cig to learn how things are supposed to work and then work you way up, some like dormouse and me find what we like and stick with it. It's a good rule to keep is simple when starting out anything, after all most mods are a lot more difficult to use than an analog and lighter.
 

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I think the issue here isn't a degree of snobbishness, but one of happiness.

Many if not most people here started with something small and graduated up the latter to whatever degree they felt comfortable with their current favourite PV. For me, it turned out I made a pretty good choice when I started out with the eGo, so that was really my main PV for nearly a year (along with the various upgrades/attachments, from Mega atties to the tanks I ended up hating to dual coil cartos that I ended up loving). I finally landed on a ProVari because ultimately, I wanted something that could adjust itself to any juice, any atty, any carto I attached to it so I could always get the best vape no matter what I've got.

I love my ProVari. It's bloody awesome. But I couldn't suggest it to a newbie. There's a little too much technicality about it that a newbie may have a hard time wrapping their head around, what with the voltages and resistances and Ohm's Law and all that. But, I can understand why some people might want to suggest it -- or Darwin, or Buzz Pro, or Silver Bullet, or GLV2, or REO, or GGTS, or whatever. They are all great PVs and make for fantastic vaping experiences -- and importantly, better vaping experiences than what we all started with.

We love vaping. Each of our personal discoveries of E-cigs was revelatory and life-changing in more ways than one, and we're all so thankful for their existence and what they've done for our lives that we want to share not only our experience with vaping in general, but with our favourite hardware, too, because we also want newbies to have the best experiences that they possibly can so that they, too, can see how amazing vaping can be with the right combination of hardware and juice and run-on sentences such as this one.

But sometimes it is easy to forget what it took to get where we are and how important each of those steps along the way were to our own understanding of E-cigs and the vaping experience. Sometimes we seek to offer newbies shortcuts to the best that vaping has to offer while forgetting what knowledge and personal experience this also circumvents. As much as I'd love to offer a suggestion for a kick-.... mod to a newbie, I'll tend to offer something a little more modest to start off with so they can discover more of what they like in a setting with less pressure and, perhaps more importantly, less monetary investment. Although in certain cases I'll suggest a mod or two if they have specific needs that only a mod can provide.

So yes, I do agree, gunning hard for the mods with newbies is probably not the best course of action when their understanding of the vaping world at large is pretty small, and I think some would do well to consider the needs of the newbie above the preferences of oneself. But I also understand the desire to push for those favourite mods, and I don't think it comes from any desire to be snobby, merely to proffer what, in people's experience, has been their best vape ever in the hopes that the newbie, too, can experience such vaping nirvana.
 

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I'm right with Wingapo. ;] Although I agree with you in that if I had NOT started on a pen style PV two months ago (Vapor Kings [KR808D-1] and yes, plenty of autos too! And when I have my PCC with me, they definitely still get some good use), there is a huge chance I would have gone back to analogs. And who wants that? Anyways, I recently invested in my first step up - the E-Power starter kit w/ 14650 batts (510) and I just love it! Eternally grateful to all the wonderful people here who suggested it to me. It just took me awhile to decide what mattered to me- which turned out to be good battery life, increased vapor production, and extreme versatility so I can play with mods and easily swap out my now far too extensive collection of juices in my still very much active quest for my all-day vape. I'm hooked now, and I can only see myself moving up from here. Analogs for me are a thing of the past, and this is the first time I've been able to say that with conviction. Thanks for this post, Poet. The most important thing you can invest in in the PV world is yourself. Whatever works to keep you away from inhaling those carcinogens. Vape on, my friends. :]
 

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As soon as they come out with 1800 mAh cig sized batteries, I'll be right on em. Even 900 mAh would be fine. I'll just switch back to 3.7 volts with LRs or make a smaller mod. I hear it's in the labs.

Until then, 2x14500 5 volt mod for me. Performance and duration.

I started with cig-sized tho. And I do miss the form factor. So here's hoping.
 
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