And yet another question... charging battery

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JanaOnWheels

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Ugh! Sorry! I just can't seem to find the info and/or the info confuses me!

I plugged in my Georgie battery to charge, and the little light was red, indicating it was charging. After only 1 1/2 hours, the light changed to green, indicating it was charged. That seemed like too short an amount of time, so I tried to find info on that, to see if something was wrong. The only info I could find was the suggestion that for the first time charging it, to do so for 8 hours... which I did night before last.

Then I also read that they suggest NOT using a computer but the wall charger. I had used the computer, so I thought maybe that was the problem. I unplugged it from the computer and instead plugged it into the wall charger. After a few minutes, the indicator light changed from red to green.

Is it normal for the battery to charge so quickly?

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If it's a new battery, it can come mostly charged from the manufacturer. Mine were. If there are no problems with the battery when using it, everything's a-ok. Mine ususally charge in about 4 hours after they are dead. I sue 650 mAh Egos. Hoep this helps!

Jennifer.

I'm using a 650mah ego-TYPE battery... it says it's fully charged after only 1 1/2 hours? But yours usually takes 4 hours? It's worked great since minute one, but the fast charging time has me baffled. I'm hoping this isn't an indication of a problem. Ya'know?

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It's nothing to worry about. Once the light is green it's fine to use. As long as you're using the correct charger for your battery (either on the computer or wall socket). I've had some ego batteries that came almost fully charged from the shop and only needed a 10 minute charge, while others have needed a couple of hours. Just enjoy the vape :D
 

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Best bet is to get a multi meter, (they're cheap) and check to voltage before and after charging, you'll know exactly what's happening, safety first too. :) As was stated your new battery likely had a near full charge when you received it.

Yeah, the guy said it did (have a near full charge). I used it all day after purchasing it, then that night plugged it in and let it charge for about 8 hours... maybe 8 1/2. Then it lasted for 27 1/2 hours before dying at about 10:30 A.M. California time. I immediately plugged it into my computer, and after 1 1/2 hours, it said it was fully charged. Confused, I Googled it to see if I could find if that was normal, as it seemed too short an amount of time. All I could find was the suggestion of using the wall charger, NOT the computer. So I unplugged it from the computer and plugged it into the wall charger. After a few minutes, the green light came on again.

It just seemed too short an amount of time for how long it held the charge! Even my cig-a-like takes 2 hours to charge!

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It's nothing to worry about. Once the light is green it's fine to use. As long as you're using the correct charger for your battery (either on the computer or wall socket). I've had some ego batteries that came almost fully charged from the shop and only needed a 10 minute charge, while others have needed a couple of hours. Just enjoy the vape :D

Yep, I'm using the charger that came with the system - it was a starter kit deal. :)

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My 650mah ego batteries charge in about 2-4 hrs on wall charger

My 650 twist, about 3-5
My 1000 twist, about 4-6

This is, dead empty. Won't fire anymore

But I use the wall plug, just how I do it

Once the green light comes on on the charger it's not charging anymore, so even if you think you charged it for 8hrs ( you probably did it overnight and weren't looking at it ) it wasn't charging the entire 8hrs.
 
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Your situation is normal.

Batteries ship from the factory with what's called a "storage charge." This is the safest charge level for storing batteries for long periods of time. It's typically 3.7v. The first time it's charged, it should charge fairly quickly to the max charge level of 4.2v, which is when the charger light goes from red to green.

As soon as the green light comes on, remove the battery from the charger. It's not a good idea to leave batteries connected to the charger for a significant period of time at a full charge, and it's not a good idea to do it overnight.

The mAh rating on the battery is as much an indication of its capacity as its ability to discharge current, and also the approximate length of time it will take to charge the battery to its full state. The higher the mAh rating, the more current it can deliver over a period of time, and the more time it will take to charge it.

I have some large batteries with 2900mAh and 3400mAh. It takes hours to restore all of that capacity, whereas my 650mAh and other batteries with capacities below 1000mAh can take an hour or two, depending on the charge level I start with.
 

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Once the green light comes on on the charger it's not charging anymore, so even if you think you charged it for 8hrs ( you probably did it overnight and weren't looking at it ) it wasn't charging the entire 8hrs.

So it has a 'cut off' type function? It's weird that they recommend charging it for a full 8 hours for the first charge.

And yeah, I plugged it in and went to sleep, then when I woke up, unplugged it. :)

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Your situation is normal.

Batteries ship from the factory with what's called a "storage charge." This is the safest charge level for storing batteries for long periods of time. It's typically 3.7v. The first time it's charged, it should charge fairly quickly to the max charge level of 4.2v, which is when the charger light goes from red to green.

As soon as the green light comes on, remove the battery from the charger. It's not a good idea to leave batteries connected to the charger for a significant period of time at a full charge, and it's not a good idea to do it overnight.

The mAh rating on the battery is as much an indication of its capacity as its ability to discharge current, and also the approximate length of time it will take to charge the battery to its full state. The higher the mAh rating, the more current it can deliver over a period of time, and the more time it will take to charge it.

I have some large batteries with 2900mAh and 3400mAh. It takes hours to restore all of that capacity, whereas my 650mAh and other batteries with capacities below 1000mAh can take an hour or two, depending on the charge level I start with.

I'd always heard the same - that leaving a battery plugged in for extended periods of time after it is charged can be damaging. I wonder then why it was suggested that it be charged for 8 hours for the first charge. So weird! I won't do that again!

So for a 650mah battery, it's usual for it to charge within 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

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Yeah, the guy said it did (have a near full charge). I used it all day after purchasing it, then that night plugged it in and let it charge for about 8 hours... maybe 8 1/2. Then it lasted for 27 1/2 hours before dying at about 10:30 A.M. California time. I immediately plugged it into my computer, and after 1 1/2 hours, it said it was fully charged. Confused, I Googled it to see if I could find if that was normal, as it seemed too short an amount of time. All I could find was the suggestion of using the wall charger, NOT the computer. So I unplugged it from the computer and plugged it into the wall charger. After a few minutes, the green light came on again.

It just seemed too short an amount of time for how long it held the charge! Even my cig-a-like takes 2 hours to charge!

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With that extra information it does seem a little weird. How is it lasting now, or have you used it enough to tell?
 

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With that extra information it does seem a little weird. How is it lasting now, or have you used it enough to tell?

I know, right? It's only been off the charger for an hour now; I'm going to be keeping an eye on it, see if it dies quicker than it did previously. I'll post and let everyone know my findings! :)

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I'd always heard the same - that leaving a battery plugged in for extended periods of time after it is charged can be damaging. I wonder then why it was suggested that it be charged for 8 hours for the first charge. So weird! I won't do that again!

So for a 650mah battery, it's usual for it to charge within 1 1/2 to 2 hours?

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Yeah, that's normal. And, while it's true that once the light goes green the battery is no longer being charged, there's still the chance that something can go wrong in the electronics of that cheap little charger dongle and it decides to start pumping current to a fully charged battery. Fireworks are the usual result.

Also, one other tip: Let your battery rest for a while after charging it before using it. Anywhere from 30 mins to an hour is good. The battery comes off of the charger "topped off" at 4.2v. After a brief rest, the chemical goo inside the battery settles down and the charge is actually somewhere south of 4.2v.

There have been reports of battery failure caused by disconnecting from the charger and using it immediately, before the chemical goo in the battery cell has had time to settle down.

I recall from your other thread that you're on a limited budget. However, if it's possible to do so, you should consider having a backup battery, which will let you vape while your other battery is charging. Here is a perfect match for your Evod system. It's genuine Kanger and this is one of the most respected vendors in the business.

Kanger eVod eGo Battery 1000mah - Red

and...

Kanger eVod eGo Battery 650mah - Red

Either one is fine. I have one of each. I have no affiliation with DV at all. I'm just a satisfied customer, and he only sells quality equipment at rock bottom prices.
 
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I'd always heard the same - that leaving a battery plugged in for extended periods of time after it is charged can be damaging. I wonder then why it was suggested that it be charged for 8 hours for the first charge. So weird! I won't do that again!
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did it say "might take UP to 8 hrs" ?

you should not charge UN attended (mostly sleeping)
once a Li-Ion battery is full charged, continuing to charge can harm it internally
I only use a wall charger, just because IF there is a problem I don't risk my computer
I don't allow my batteries to drain very low and recharge time usually about 40min - 90 min
have you ever read the numbers on your charger? (wall adp and USB cable)
one line will say OUTPUT: 500mA or 450mA or 420mA -- the bigger number will charge faster

use it hard, charge it up and VAPE some more ... ;)
 

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Yeah, that's normal. And, while it's true that once the light goes green the battery is no longer being charged, there's still the chance that something can go wrong in the electronics of that cheap little charger dongle and it decides to start pumping current to a fully charged battery. Fireworks are the usual result.

Also, one other tip: Let your battery rest for a while after charging it before using it. Anywhere from 30 mins to an hour is good. The battery comes off of the charger "topped off" at 4.2v. After a brief rest, the chemical goo inside the battery settles down and the charge is actually somewhere south of 4.2v.

There have been reports of battery failure caused by disconnecting from the charger and using it immediately, before the chemical goo in the battery cell has had time to settle down.

I recall from your other thread that you're on a limited budget. However, if it's possible to do so, you should consider having a backup battery, which will let you vape while your other battery is charging. Here is a perfect match for your Evod system. It's genuine Kanger and this is one of the most respected vendors in the business.

Kanger eVod eGo Battery 1000mah - Red

and...

Kanger eVod eGo Battery 650mah - Red

Either one is fine. I have one of each. I have no affiliation with DV at all. I'm just a satisfied customer, and he only sells quality equipment at rock bottom prices.

Thanks! These are definitely budget-able! :)

I was using my cig-a-like while the battery was charging, but did start vaping right away as soon as it was charged. Next time, I'll wait 30 or so minutes and just continue using the cig-a-like during that time!

MTLBYAKY

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