Another Atomizer Possibility

[Jim Davis]

Gentlemen;

This is only a brain fart, and I don't have time to persue this, but if anyone want's to look into it, here's the idea. (If not already thought of.)

A possible way to convert a model airplane engine glow plug to an atty. I flew RC's for years.

The typical glow plug has a 1/4-32 SAE thread. You can get them from a Hobby store as cheap as $3.50 each. (Bulk would be dirt cheap.)

A glow plug with an "idle bar" is bridged.

Possible problem - no wicking material in the coil. Possible wicking material inserted on or near the coil? I don't know. And most are 1 1/2 volts.

If someone want's to run with this, good luck.

 

[dirt2suck]

Ah yes, the model plane atomizer.

Someone has got to get this in the works. I don't have a minute to spare in my day.

Great idea JD, some one please please get on this, quick. No time to spare.
OK I am going to far wit this, but really it is a good idea.
If I do happen to stuble upon my RC engines I might give it a try. Just havnt seen them for a few years. They are packed away.

Dirt

 

[kwcharlie]

Ya,
That might work GOOD but not on a battery, 1.5 volts doesn't work well at more than a ma from a chem source, ie the good power tools use high volt batteries, the 6 volt cheap tools use about the same watts as the 42 volt expensive ones (it's more than smaller wires in the motors) the batteries and motors just work better at the higher volts, here we would have problems with the batteries, might do good off USB with a chip to lower volts would be hard to make portable.
Getting the plug to work at a higher voltage would involve new coil with more/smaller wire. Nest time i pass a hobby shop I' get a plug to experiment with on the bench, shouldn't be too hard to put something around it to hold the juice, this might be one wheel (the coil) that won't need to be invented.
Didn't fly out today Jim?
Charlie

 

[Jim Davis]

Ya,
That might work GOOD but not on a battery, 1.5 volts doesn't work well at more than a ma from a chem source, ie the good power tools use high volt batteries, the 6 volt cheap tools use about the same watts as the 42 volt expensive ones (it's more than smaller wires in the motors) the batteries and motors just work better at the higher volts, here we would have problems with the batteries, might do good off USB with a chip to lower volts would be hard to make portable.
Getting the plug to work at a higher voltage would involve new coil with more/smaller wire. Nest time i pass a hobby shop I' get a plug to experiment with on the bench, shouldn't be too hard to put something around it to hold the juice, this might be one wheel (the coil) that won't need to be invented.
Didn't fly out today Jim?
Charlie

Yeah - I'm posting from a Hotel in Council Bluffs, IA.

On the battery issue for the glow plug, I would look for small bat's that would power it. Possibly from a photo / camera supply?

or a larger power unit like the screwdriver? The way I see it, the power source should be rather easy. It's developing a rugged or cheap atomizer that's the main issue.

 

[kwcharlie]

Yes and one less wheel to be reinvented/rewired. I'll work on it while your gone and let you know, may need your machining experience to make something usable. I'll do the electrical tests and work with TP wire (have LOTs of that) shield for juice holder. See if I can really burn it. I think it's all SS, bet it burns just a little slower than steel wool. Do a lot of testing to destruction (some of it on purpose ) on my bench so I'm use to fires I'll stop inhaling if it lights up. i think the SS is the way to go, thanks for the TP idea.

 

[RayJ1]

The problem with glow plugs is that the igniter coil is inside the body of the plug. This will make it very difficult to actually get any kind of vaper out of it w/o submerging the coil in liquid. The coils in our atomizers are also wound around a material that allows the coil not to distort itself with constant usage and short itself out. This is not the case with a glow plug.

 

[RatInDaHat]

why not submerge it? that give me an idea...

 

[Coombs]

This seems like an idea that may work,
I have plenty of glo plugs but they are all Medium heat so i dont think they would work for this...

I doubt it would work as well as an atomizer but if they do get banned this just might be a solution

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I decided to take a temperature reading from a couple of my glo plugs
In no way are these definitive tests, Just a plug and a digital thermometer.

I used a couple O.S #8 Plugs (2 plugs, 1 new, 1 slightly used)
Powered by a single AA Battery (NOT brand new)
Temerature range for both after a couple tests were between 205-225 degrees fahrenheit
(my thermometer isn't ideal for this, So i would bet the temp is a little higher)

So more (accurate) testing is needed but if the below post is correct,
Then the heat range from a glo plug is pretty close to optimal.
Which makes me think that glo plugs could be a viable way to drip smoke at least,
If it can accept some sort of wicking material

I think most atomizers are about 130 degrees celsius or 266 degrees fahrenheit.

 

[Brooks]

Why not just deal with present supplier of atty and have it shipped as a glo plug?

 

[planetofthevapes]

LOL brooks, that's a good idea. I was telling another thread that we could just call them cigarette lighters, because there are electronic cigarette lighters that have the same dang coil as what we vape on
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/11543-electric-cig-lighter.html
LOL. Keep us all posted on this glow plug thing, I'm interested!

 

[Coombs]

Attys are my only concern,
Everything else needed can be done at home,
But if we lose a steady supply of atomizers without having a viable alternative then we are all up S**t creek without a paddle.

I hope we can get around this as easily as re-classifying atomizers as something else
*Fingers Crossed*

 

[ccure]

We are working on that. I hope soon I can give you really great news!

Keep your fingers crossed!!

Attys are my only concern,
Everything else needed can be done at home,
But if we lose a steady supply of atomizers without having a viable alternative then we are all up S**t creek without a paddle.

I hope we can get around this as easily as re-classifying atomizers as something else
*Fingers Crossed*