Got an email from Avail the other day promoting new batteries. From what i could gather, they are $15/each.
Another battery joins the market.
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Oh boy another unknown rewrap for 2x the price of the real cell underneath.
Notice they say exclusive. Yet they dont exactly look like a battery manufacturer.
And their facebook page is lit upwith people wanting them...
I cant believe the average vapor is so gullible all it takes is a cool wrapper. Im sure the owners firing up a fat cigar laughin his .... off.
Hmmm thrashers new AnarchyX cell, ill even out do them with 38 1/2 amps ha
Notice they say exclusive. Yet they dont exactly look like a battery manufacturer.
And their facebook page is lit upwith people wanting them...
I cant believe the average vapor is so gullible all it takes is a cool wrapper. Im sure the owners firing up a fat cigar laughin his .... off.
Hmmm thrashers new AnarchyX cell, ill even out do them with 38 1/2 amps ha
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With just a quick google, Avail Vapor's have like 37 stores in several states and they have a very nice website. I am not familiar with their batteries so therefore I will not offer an opinion. Yelp had some very positive reviews and their stores look very nice. Thank you for posting this because I may just go check them out. I have only been in two B&M stores but this looks like a nice one to try.
I have Avail down the street from me, i have bought juice from them and thats how i got an email.
Their juice flavors and selections are unique and of good quality, and the juice tasting stations are far better then ego-sticks that many B&M stores have, even though half of them dont work, as they are wired to a central power source( no batteries).
Bring your own battery mod so you can unscrew the tank from their station mod and power it from your own battery mod.
Not sure which tanks they use for juice tasting, but they look like a large version of Kanger tanks, which gives you a great juice flavor compared to chepo ego sticks. Keep it under 13w if you use your own battery mod.
Last time i was at the shop, one of the employees let me use his Istick 30, because i didnt bring my Sig Mod.
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Oh
I'm not saying their not a good store or decent people.
But the battery hijinx need to stop before more vapors get hurt, once again we have an unknown cell claiming 35 amp output.
I find it quite troublesome that as vsping becomes more and more popular battery safety seems to be less and less of a concern to these shops.
I'm not saying their not a good store or decent people.
But the battery hijinx need to stop before more vapors get hurt, once again we have an unknown cell claiming 35 amp output.
I find it quite troublesome that as vsping becomes more and more popular battery safety seems to be less and less of a concern to these shops.
38 amps continuous? I don't believe it. I hope their liability insurance is up to date. Someone's gonna get hurt one of these days, and then when they find out it's really not 38 amp, watch out. In my opinion, only a irresponsible shop would sell something like this, and they shouldn't be in business.
Ill tell ya whats buggin me.
I been looking at the graph thinking something doesnt seem right but i couldnt get it to click
Sitting here with my coffee trying to find a match from another cell. But their graphs are completely different.
then it hit me
HOW DO YOU GET A BATTERY TO PRODUCE MORE AH (time)RUNNING AT 38 AMPS THEN WHEN IT IS RUNNING AT 2?
Even ignoring that the sag is terrible above 10 amps lol
Someone with a facebook account should go call them out
I been looking at the graph thinking something doesnt seem right but i couldnt get it to click
Sitting here with my coffee trying to find a match from another cell. But their graphs are completely different.
then it hit me
HOW DO YOU GET A BATTERY TO PRODUCE MORE AH (time)RUNNING AT 38 AMPS THEN WHEN IT IS RUNNING AT 2?
Even ignoring that the sag is terrible above 10 amps lol
Someone with a facebook account should go call them out
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Yup, another one
I'm up for a bit still tonight so I thought I would nerd out a bit
. I had a look at Illumination Supply's charts for the HE2, CTV4 and VTC5 at 35A. They used cooling for those tests. Test equipment is also not always calibrated the same so you can get a bit of difference from different test setups from that too, but it's usually not much.The 2100 mAh for "batt X" in the OP made me think it was probably a VTC4. If you have a look at the 35A and 38A (small enough amp difference to consider the rates the same for all intents) data, it's not far off in initial voltage drop and the way the curve curves. Initial V drop to around 3.4 for the VTC4 vs 3.5 for batt X and then they both hover around 3V for the flat part of the curve. The VTC4 curve then starts its drop earlier than batt X and finishes at 1.97'ish aH at 2.5V vs batt X at 2.05'ish aH at 2.5V. I might have thought the differences were test error, but if you check the 20A curves from Illumn and for batt X the VTC4 made significantly more aH than batt X does at 20A. So by this data it's not a VTC4.
The VTC5 35A curve actually looks kinda similar to batt X for the first half or so, but then it drifted off and ended up making 2.3 aH at 2.5V vs batt X's 2.05 which makes me think it's not a VTC5. The VTC5 also makes 2.6 aH at 20A from the Illumn data.
Batt X is also not a HE2 or a 25R.
While I have seen some battery data showing a bit more capacity at slightly higher amp rates, I agree with you there should not be a steady and significant increase through the range. I also trust the Illumn data way more than the data presented for batt X.
I think the batt X data is incorrect or misrepresented. If the supplier told us what the battery was we would be able to check against known good data, but these type of suppliers never do that because the game would then be up.
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They should have put SubOhm, or Cloud baser on the battery; that would really bring them in...
You know what I think they did.
And it would show they are paying attention
They altered the graph so we can't just overlay it on known charts and go ahaa its this cell.
And it would show they are paying attention
They altered the graph so we can't just overlay it on known charts and go ahaa its this cell.
what a waste of money! looks more like a 5Amp battery at best, the graph shows a 38amp build starting or stooping to below 3.5v, useless but comicle
SLIPPY_EEL, have a look at the 35A charts from Illumn. I believe these guys know what they're doing and they show HE2, VTC4 and VTC5 all very quickly going under 3.5V at that draw. The 20A charts also jive with my experience at that draw which gives me voltage under load in a mech mod of around 3.75-3.8V with fully charged HE2, 25R, VTC3, 4 and 5 which agrees with their charts.
For me the left end of the charts look OK, it's what happens to the right of there that bothers me because it doesn't jive with any of the batts I'm familiar with.
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Meh. As noted, another re-wrap marketing gimmick.
I really need to get some custom wrappers printed up, throw them on $6 25Rs, sell them for $15 each, and start counting my stacks.
I really need to get some custom wrappers printed up, throw them on $6 25Rs, sell them for $15 each, and start counting my stacks.
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