Another 'coils not lasting' thread.

[NicotineRush]

Fairly new to vaping. About a year. Sticking with Aspire as they don't leak! Had issues with other brands early on.

Equipment:

Aspire Triton Mini Kit. NI at 300F DTL Full open on the airflow.

Really like the Tritton Mini's. EASY to fill. NO leaks. Pocket size. Easy to use. etc.... Don't like coil life though.

Aspire K3's 1.8's at 13W DTL

juice: Blacknote 50/50 Prelude 12mg (all natural tobacco flavor only. no sweet/flavors stuff)

I consider myself a heavy user although I have no one to compare with.
Have to refill the Triton Mini maybe 5 times a day. (only vape down to about half full before I reload)

Coils in the Triton are lasting 3-4 days max. (last one only lasted 2 days!)
I presoak coils in juice a few days before use.

Coils in the K3's last 4-5 days but I don't hit them nearly as much.

Getting tired of buying so many coils. My general opinion, from reading other threads, I should be getting longer coil life. Correct? Any ideas are appreciated.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

No matter how they're marketed NET's are rapid coil gunkers & prelude is what I consider a very sweet liquid, high in naturally occurring sugars.
Yes, I am aware of the companies claims & the tons of 'reviews' saying their nets don't gunk coils.
I primarily vape tobacco flavors, I have tried their liquids many times, I have 3 partial 3mg/ml Nic bottles on the shelf right now.
IMO they are no different in coil gunking than any other decent quality net liquids.

10ml per day, 3 - 4 days = 30 - 40 ml.
NET + sweet in triton mini / nautilus type heads = low head life.

30 - 40 mils per head is very close, on rare occasion 50ml at most is what mine last when using blacknote or any other NET's.
I don't use TC / Ni heads, I have tried the .7Ω, 1.6Ω & 1.8Ω BVC heads with blacknote liquids.

 

[NicotineRush]

Thanks. Any suggestions? Live with it? Different mod/head/?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

If you like those liquids (net) & want to stick with the triton delivery device I'd try the non TC heads to see if they'd last a little longer for you.
I doubt they will, but it is worth a try.

An RBA of some sort will allow you to change the wicking & dry burn/clean the coil when necessary & give you endless options of wire type & resistance. RTA, RDTA, genesis, RDA will all be much less expensive to use than replaceable heads of any kind especially using net's.

If you like nets have you tried HHV liquids? some folks love them.

 

[Eskie]

Thanks. Any suggestions? Live with it? Different mod/head/?

Two (well, three) options. First, try a different Nautilus coil type and give up on the TC for now. Second, change your juice preference. Third, learn to build your own coils. Even if you have to dry burn and wick every three days it's an awful lot cheaper than factory coils.

A different mod won't make any difference as to what your coil does in the tank. It's just supplying the current.

Edit: @Topwater Elvis must have been watching my hand about to click the mouse to reply and got there a second before.

 

[NicotineRush]

@Topwater: Yes, I've tried the HHV liquids. Wasn't really a fan. Just something about them that I couldn't get used to.

Thanks guys. Didn't really want to go the rebuild route but if I have to......

@Eskie. Will try the different Nautilus coils first before going the rebuild route.

 

[gandymarsh]

I used to like the Nautilus Mini but I've switched to the Ego One group of tanks and CLR coils.

Quote;

Compared to the traditional eGo One atomizer heads, the "R" in CLR stands for Reusable, Rewickable and Rebuildable. The CLR features a unique body design, allowing users to conveniently replace the cotton and build their own coil. Organic cotton is used for wicking material of the CLR, which provides robust flavor.

End quote.

Joyetech eGo ONE Mega V2 Tank

Joyetech eGo ONE V2 Tank

Joyetech eGo ONE V2 Tank

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I suggest getting a box of the .7Ω & 1.8Ω authentic aspire nautilus / triton mini BVC heads, just to givem a try.
Stay away from the clone/counterfeit replacement heads.
A few US based online sources sell them for +/- $10 per 5 pack.

 

[sofarsogood]

I've been mixing and rebuilding for 2 years. When I was using commercial pre mix wicks were heavily gunked up in a couple of days on 7 ml per day. Coils were also heavily gunked up and I'd end up rebuilding about once a week. These days I'm vaping the same 7 ml's but using just 1% flavoring DIY. The rate of gunking is far far slower. I still rewick about twice a week and rebuild about twice a month on my rda, not because it's necessary but because the flavor and vapor quality are slightly improved by those intervals. I believe life long vapers will be mixing and rebuilding sooner or later not to save money but for the control they give for the sake of a quality vape.

 

[leftyandsparky]

I've been mixing and rebuilding for 2 years. When I was using commercial pre mix wicks were heavily gunked up in a couple of days on 7 ml per day. Coils were also heavily gunked up and I'd end up rebuilding about once a week. These days I'm vaping the same 7 ml's but using just 1% flavoring DIY. The rate of gunking is far far slower. I still rewick about twice a week and rebuild about twice a month on my rda, not because it's necessary but because the flavor and vapor quality are slightly improved by those intervals. I believe life long vapers will be mixing and rebuilding sooner or later not to save money but for the control they give for the sake of a quality vape.

To me it's a better vape, but I do miss the simplicity of just popping in a new coil!

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

This one of those uncommon instances where I agree that a rebuildable system is your very best option.

NET liquids are indeed notorious coil gunkers, and Aspire coils aren't known for longevity.

Last, your liquid demand is on the high side.

Put all three of these conditions together and... what took you so long to post the question?

 

[NicotineRush]

@coastal: Too busy being annoyed by short lived coils. Will try some of the 1.8's I have. See how that goes. Not sure I have the patience to learn/do rebuilding although I do have the skills. At my age, not sure I want to deal with it. Guess I have to live with for the time being.

 

[leftyandsparky]

@coastal: Too busy being annoyed by short lived coils. Will try some of the 1.8's I have. See how that goes. Not sure I have the patience to learn/do rebuilding.

Don't stress over rebuilding. When you have time there is a lot of people that will help and there's a lot of beginners tanks available.
I'm 39 and was scared to rebuild. This lovely community helped me learn and they are a very helpful bunch!
Good luck

 

[Smoke_too_much]

Hi NicRush & welcome
Well that is the longest and most complete priming method I've ever heard of. I let mine sit in a filled tank for 10 to 15 minutes before vaping but a couple of days would sure do it, and then some.

I chuckled at your comment "Didn't really want to go the rebuild route but if I have to......" as my very first thought was 'just wait until you try it and you'll wonder why you ever bought pre-made coils'. It really is not hard to do nor is it difficult to understand and contrary to popular belief, except for certain limited applications, you really don't have to know or understand Ohm's law. I've still got caches of pre-made coils I haven't used in more than a year since I converted almost all my tanks over to rebuildables. The tanks I wasn't able to convert now sit nestled together in a box that I've put away. I found my vapes were much improved with my own builds than the pre-made ones and I build simply, no fancy coils.

 

[NicotineRush]

I have no doubt I can do it, just not sure I want to!

I do know and understand Ohms Law and I have serious mechanical abilities, and the tools to go with.

I've read a bunch of the info on rebuilding and I'm just as confused now as I was before. I don't need fancy, just something that works like my Triton Minis. I'm happy with what I get from them except for the coils.

I have the funds but hate to buy stuff I don't need. You should see all the crap I have that I 'thought' I've needed over the years! (including a bunch of vape crap)

 

[stols001]

Honestly, I thought I couldn't build coils and with the help of this forum and my husband, I was able to build on something stupid complicated, which resulted in many fails, but I learned a lot. I have to be honest, I prefer the ease of storebought but I bet if I do more coils, more frequently, I will become more pleased with the process. I was Extremely pleased with the quality of the vape, though. I'm waiting for a less complicated tank to try and do a build solo. I refuse to take my own coils out of the house though, due to fears of leaking/needing to rewick, etc. So, I use the Nautilus coils (all sizes) frequently. They do require care and they have limitations. If I don't want my coil to die in a day and a half, I can't use storebought coco, for example.

That said, I DO feel confident in my DIY mixes which are FAR less sweet/flavored, and I actually enjoy the taste of the vape more that way.... I don't actually enjoy store bought juices anymore, but I don't use NETs and I can't imagine they wouldn't gunk up my coil. I actually don't really enjoy tobacco flavors any more (store made OR NET) but if that is your go to and you can't escape it, then coil life WILL shorten. For me, it's easier to DIY and choose clear/non-sweet flavorings than it is to build and wick coils RIGHT NOW. That may change, but for the moment, I am enjoying the ease of DIY over coil building, and maintain my coils appropriately to the best of my ability using low watts, high airflow, and juices my coils can handle.

That said, if you have the SKILLS to build, once you do your first deck you may vape it and go, "Oh... heaven! This was worth the trouble!" and over time, you will find building easier and easier, as do many on this forum. I'm pretty sure there are people on here who can build, install, and wick a coil just as quickly as I am able to prime a preinstalled coil, so it's not an option you should rule out at this point if you want to stay with NET. Were I handier and without a (much improved) fine motor tremor, I'd likely be happier taking those RTA out of the house, but alas, I'm not. I also love Aspire products and I'm willing to pay a bit extra for the privilege/ease for ME, saving myself $$$$ in the DIY department.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[Carl2]

I got over a month on the tank and coils that came with the Smok vaporizer, they were still good when I began switching to their RBA decks. Their reputation has been tarnished a bit but I've had pretty good luck with them and think they are doing great.

 

[suprtrkr]

Try turning down the wattage a bit. Welcome to the board.

 

[RainSong]

Thanks guys. Didn't really want to go the rebuild route but if I have to......

There's no rule that you have to, you can keep buying coils but you just have to accept that you're only going to get a few days out of them. I had to change my coil at least once a week when I used drop in coils, but I go with the sweeter liquids. Once you get the building thing down it really is as easy as a drop in coil. The coils usually last a long time and a dry burn and rewick only takes me a few minutes a few times a week. I only build simple micro coils, effective and easy. The quality of my vape improved greatly too. I don't think I could ever go back to premade coils unless I physically was unable to build.

 

[Carl2]

Making e liquid and coils has been kind of a hobby, since I've started using the SS Clapton coils which can be cleaned by burning them coil building takes less time.