Another Joye 510 Cartomizer Question

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BigJohnJ

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I have been using the Joye 510 Cartomizers for a little over a week now. Keeping 4 of them in rotation and have already lost 3 of the 4. They just stopped working with no warning at all. Shouldn't they last longer than this? Should I be cleaning them? If so, does anyone know of a way to clean them. I love the way they vape and the ease of refilling them but I just think 4 should last more than a week.

Any help or suggestions on making these last longer and how to clean them if needed.

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John
 

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Well John how much liquid are you blowing through? Cartomizers are realitively cheap and are not designed to last forever. It is possible you got a bad batch. I have found the Boge cartos with a verticle element to be superior. I mostly drip but use these when I can't. I can put over 10mls through them without a problem. After that they still hit but I toss them anyway once they go over three weeks. I know I had problems withe the Joys that had the coiled element. They did not hold up well for me
 

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Cartomizers are disposable. Some last longer than others. It depends on who produced them. I had one lasted for months (longer than my atty). You only clean the contacts. You could take these precautions:

1. Do not let the cartos run dry.
2. Do not vape it hot. Its made of plastic casing. (I had one with hole burnt at its side)
3. Experiment with different suppliers.
Lastly.. good luck.
 
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BigJohnJ

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These are the new Joye Tech 510 Cartomizers that have only been out a couple of months. Only 2 places I have seen them available is Cignot and FSUSA. I go through between 3 to 5 ml of juice a day. I realize they are disposable but was hoping to get more than 5 or 6 refills per cartomizer. I have more ordered so instead of rotating through them I think I will just use one until it dies just to see how long they last.
 

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Oh my - I had 10 white ones that I got from Cignot and couldn't even tell you how many times I refilled them. I had to take them apart to see what it was all about and all but the couple I messed the threads up on continued refilling them longer until the plastic cracked from pulling them apart (don't take my new ones apart anymore). I don't know what could be wrong.
 

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I never used the Joye, but I really like the LR Boge with soft tip. Still in my experience with cartos on both the 510 and kr8, refilling has not been all that successful. It's more like nursing it to it's death. What I mean by that is, the first fill is a good 30+ drops. After that it's topping it off with 5-10 drops before it goes dry. Attempting to never get any juice in the hole, because once that happens it's all downhill from there, no matter how many napkins you twist up there or paperclips you run through it. Thick American juice clogs the heck out of those things.
 

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You should definitely be getting 10+ fills per carto. That's been my experience with the last 20 I've used. If they're completely dying on you (zero vapor, not just bad taste), I'd suspect that you're not keeping them wet enough. I fill mine about every 4 hours with moderate vaping. These are by far my favorite carto, but they are susceptible to burning out if they're run dry.
 

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I've only blown them out with limited success. I don't think cleaning them with water, vinegar, or alcohol is a good idea. Unless you have a spare month to let them dry out.

Yeah - I tried cleaning mine once by soaking them in water. Let them sit 24 hours and filled them - didn't get much in them. When I tried to vape it was like water. Took one apart and the filler was purely that - water. Just use until they die.
 

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I have only used the Joye cartomizers, and I've used a ton of them. I just ordered 20 more to replace the ones I bought two months ago that are now dying. I have a bowlful of them I keep refilling. Some last a long time and work great. A few died after only a single refill or so. Keep in mind that the filament of the atomizer inside is similar to a light bulb, but less dependable. Lightbulbs don't get a variety of different chemicals run through them, and they operate in a vacuum.

I used to wash my cartomizers, and I know a good routine for doing it, but it's a major pain and I don't think it's worth the effort unless you have a bad tasting juice you want to flush out. If that's the case, you can remove the mouthpiece and the plastic barrier below it, exposing the fill port. If you have filled the carto with a syringe, or have already pierced that fill port for any reason, that gives you access to air and water flow through the filler. If you don't open that port, you can still pass air and water through the carto, but it's only going through the air shaft down the side, not directly through the filler. This may flush the atomizer, but not the filler, so the juice remains inside.

Once you have that pierced fill port exposed, you can use any method that forces air or liquid through the carto to blow out or flush out any juice inside. If you are looking to clean everything inside, I'd recommend Everclear or grain alcohol, high proof vodka, or something high in alcohol purity. You can just inject it like you are filling the carto with a syringe, then blow it out forcefully with your mouth or an air pump. The alcohol will dissolve any crud and it dries very fast, especially with air flowing through it. I've even used canned air, but the kind of needle you insert into a basketball to inflate it will fit into that fill port with a little coaxing, and you can then use compressed air or a bicycle pump to force air in to dry out the alcohol inside. Careful not to use a high PSI air source or you'll blow the carto apart or send it through your neighbor's window!

Like I said, I rarely clean them anymore. Too much hassle for something that costs less than a fourth of the price of a pack of smokes.

Also, I've noticed that some e-liquids seem to kill cartomizers faster than others. There is no guide for that. Hit and miss, live and learn.

One last note... I don't know why, but it seems the ones I've bought most recently are dying faster than the ones I bought two months ago. And they are very slightly different in the size of the mouthpiece and the tightness of the battery threads, so something changed, but the vendor is not aware of any change. She said I'm the only one to report problems with the newer ones, so far.
 

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One last note... I don't know why, but it seems the ones I've bought most recently are dying faster than the ones I bought two months ago. And they are very slightly different in the size of the mouthpiece and the tightness of the battery threads, so something changed, but the vendor is not aware of any change. She said I'm the only one to report problems with the newer ones, so far.

I noticed the exact same thing with my last batch from FSUSA. The threads are definitely much tighter on the battery. I haven't lost one yet though, and I currently have 3 from that batch in rotation.
 
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