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Foggin MooSe

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Just read today in The Telegraph that E cigarettes have been declared haram (forbidden) for Muslims by the Malaysian national council.
Considering tobacco products are still rife here and not legally forbidden I find the situation tragically ignorant and reeking of lack of tax income.
So far on my work tour since the beginning Of December I've learnt Singapore, johor and Teranganu have banned vaping or the sale or vape products.
Funnily enough I visited a shop in Kota kinabalu today and the guys were blissfully unaware. (Set me up with some great coils on a new atty too!).
As a recent ex smoker I have no desire to go back to that habit and accept the lesser risks of vaping for the enjoyment it brings.
I wish the study sponsored by the British health departments was issued to all states to assist them with their decisions.
Vapin is frickin huge in Malaysia so I'll be interested to see How the ban is implemented since it only mentioned Muslims.
 
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Just read today in The Telegraph that E cigarettes have been declared haram (forbidden) for Muslims by the Malaysian national council.
Considering tobacco products are still rife here and not legally forbidden I find the situation tragically ignorant and reeking of lack of tax income.
So far on my work tour since the beginning Of December I've learnt Singapore, johor and Teranganu have banned vaping or the sale or vape products.
Funnily enough I visited a shop in Kota kinabalu today and the guys were blissfully unaware. (Set me up with some great coils on a new atty too!).
As a recent ex smoker I have no desire to go back to that habit and accept the lesser risks of vaping for the enjoyment it brings.
I wish the study sponsored by the British health departments was issued to all states to assist them with their decisions.
Vapin is frickin huge in Malaysia so I'll be interested to see How the ban is implemented since it only mentioned Muslims.

YES, read that somewhere a week or two ago ...

Just yet another HARAM.... like music... and even smiling...in certain islamic countries (NOT kidding...) ;)
HARD on the local vapers though,I feel for them.
 
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Religious persecution from within:blink:
Based on a Statement of a Scientific unknown :glare: By a Professor no less :shock:

Abdul Shukor said the council came to decision after it considered Syariah teachings, and medical and scientific studies. "From the Syariah aspect, it is detrimental to health. Islam forbids its followers from using things that can harm them directly or indirectly," he was quoted as saying.

and Smoking isn't? :-x

Vaping is now forbidden for Muslims in Malaysia
 

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Just read today in The Telegraph that E cigarettes have been declared haram (forbidden) for Muslims by the Malaysian national council.
Considering tobacco products are still rife here and not legally forbidden I find the situation tragically ignorant and reeking of lack of tax income.
So far on my work tour since the beginning Of December I've learnt Singapore, johor and Teranganu have banned vaping or the sale or vape products.
Funnily enough I visited a shop in Kota kinabalu today and the guys were blissfully unaware. (Set me up with some great coils on a new atty too!).
As a recent ex smoker I have no desire to go back to that habit and accept the lesser risks of vaping for the enjoyment it brings.
I wish the study sponsored by the British health departments was issued to all states to assist them with their decisions.
Vapin is frickin huge in Malaysia so I'll be interested to see How the ban is implemented since it only mentioned Muslims.
But isn't it not because of health concerns but because PG and VG are chemically classified as alcohols?
 

Foggin MooSe

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So inhalers for asthma etc and food flavourings are banned as well? I don't want to enter a religious discussion but we went through this .... in the middle ages. ..... (I'm from England ).
Ps. Neither PG or VG are alcoholic although VG is chemically an alcohol it is classed as a carbohydrate. Best many other by products are banned to be sure. ......
And in the light of the Malaysian national councils thinking most food should be banned too. Those fried bananas and delicious rotis will kill ya!
 
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That's really cool that vaping is huge in Malaysia! I'm always curious about hobbies I'm interested in on the world wide scene. I sure have seen a lot of vapers on here from a huge number of countries, and I love it!

Interesting some folks aren't supposed to use it, but could that be related to tourism? As in not wanting visitors to not be able to use whatever they're interested in?
 

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I find it strange that Islam in some ways closely follows Christianity, especially new testament, yet pick and choose which parts to ignore. Anyone that has read the Bible and half way studied Islam will know what I mean about alcohol and participating when not knowing but if you ask and/or know you cannot.
 

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YES, read that somewhere a week or two ago ...

Just yet another HARAM.... like music... and even smiling...in certain islamic countries (NOT kidding...) ;)
HARD on the local vapers though,I feel for them.
kewl... they can "kill" 2 birds with one stone here... take away the vape and smiling will cease... ;)
 
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I find it strange that Islam in some ways closely follows Christianity, especially new testament, yet pick and choose which parts to ignore. Anyone that has read the Bible and half way studied Islam will know what I mean about alcohol and participating when not knowing but if you ask and/or know you cannot.

One might argue that the New Testament itself is the result of a picking and choosing process by various Church Council meetings.

It may be not as much about following Christianity as it is both being Abrahamic religions. Same god, different wrapping. One may see Jesus turning water into wine as a miracle (and a jolly good time), while the other would prefer it if Jesus turned wine into water. Not to mention how the former turns wine into Jesus for Communion. Color me confused.

I'm curious as to how this law works in practice. What is the sentence in practical terms - pay or pray? Or is it just a "don't do it while we're watching" kind of deal?
 
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