Another reason to quit - bacteria

[Vapinginjapan]

Cigarettes Might Be Infectious - Science News

According to this sciencenews article, apparently your average cigarette has traices of hundreds of different kinds of bacteria. While many would probably be instantly destroyed in the burning in the coal of the cigarette, they point out that the smoke particles could pick up bacteria ifrom the as of yet unburned tobacco, and ferry it deep into your lungs. I have no doubt that some make it onto the filter. If some do make it in, it's into your lungs you go. Another reason to vape, eh?

 

[Remie]

Cigarettes Might Be Infectious - Science News

According to this sciencenews article, apparently your average cigarette has traices of hundreds of different kinds of bacteria. While many would probably be instantly destroyed in the burning in the coal of the cigarette, they point out that the smoke particles could pick up bacteria ifrom the as of yet unburned tobacco, and ferry it deep into your lungs. I have no doubt that some make it onto the filter. If some do make it in, it's into your lungs you go. Another reason to vape, eh?

Yuck - it's logical though. Yup, another reason to be really happy about saying, "no thanks, I quit"

 

[Raid3n]

I bet a lot of people can contribute to the authenticity of this too. Like whenever I got sick it would take MONTHS to finally get fully better. Since I've started vaping actually a cough I've had since I got sick about 3 or more months ago has finally gone away! So this is a great reason to quit smoking

 

[Connman]

And to think I just would dangle a non-filter cig from my mouth for long periods of time. My one friend couldn`t stand it and always would light it for me.
I never realized he was trying to save me from bacteria.

 

[ladyraj]

Study: Bacteria common in snow

Study: Bacteria common in snow - USATODAY.com

Human Skin Harbors Completely Unknown Bacteria

Human Skin Harbors Completely Unknown Bacteria

Bacteria can be found everywhere and some are good, some are bad. The link supplied by the OP states:

"If these germs are alive, something she has not yet confirmed, just handling cigarettes or putting an unlit one to the mouth could be enough to cause an infection."

Inert bacteria is harmless so one has to inquire why the researcher did not ascertain if the "germs" were alive or not. What is the point of research if the obvious question is never answered?

These type of studies tend to make me laugh but leave me frustrated as well. Most of the bacteria found are in plants/crops via precipitation cycles.

 

[Elfyn]

And you don't think there are any bacteria growing in the carts we keep filling and refilling over and over? 8-o Also attys don't get as hot as a burning ciggy or at least don't burn down the way ciggys do so probably not killing many of the critters either. Not tryin' to burst anyone's bubble, just sayin'.

 

[Vapinginjapan]

The soggy carts you speak of, might indeed contain bacteria. However, propylene glycol is a very strong anti bacterial agent and are used in disinfection systems for buildings. Any bacteria present in the cartridge would quickly be destroyed by the flood of vapor rapidly plowing towards it on a regular basis.

Medicine: Air Germicide - TIME
Ever popular link to times propylene glycol air germicide article.

According to the rough statistics in this article, 1ML of propylene glycol is potent enough to, within seconds ,sterilize roughly 2 cubic meters of air. I'd imagine instead of delivering bacteria into the lungs, vaping introduces a potent antibacterial agent into the lungs.

From the times article, the scientist in question sprayed propylene glycol vapor into a mouse cage, and then sprayed the influenza virus. All lof the mice lived. Then he sprayed another group of mice with just the influenza virus. All of them died. (Sad story)

And as for the presence of bacteria in everything, this is indeed true. However, you don't put everything in your mouth, and you certainley don't suck everything into your lungs. It's not so much the presence of bacteria that concerns me, it's the possible delivery vector that smoking affords it.

I'm sure if you took bacteria laden sawdust, and sucked on it repeatedly, it's possible that a good deal of the bacteria would travel through the airways and directly into your lungs. Spending an hour or two a day sucking on something known to harbor bacteria (if they are indeed alive) is a bothersome prospect indeed. Not because of the presence of the bacteria, but because they immediately get a vector into one of the most important organs in your body. You can survive quite a while with liver and kidney failure. A lung failure spells instant death if not remedied.

 

[bionic1]

Nice info..I quitting now and I am so glad because I am here...I feel so easier..

 

[Elfyn]

The soggy carts you speak of, might indeed contain bacteria. However, propylene glycol is a very strong anti bacterial agent and are used in disinfection systems for buildings. Any bacteria present in the cartridge would quickly be destroyed by the flood of vapor rapidly plowing towards it on a regular basis.

*URL removed since I'm still a noob and can't post links yet*
Ever popular link to times propylene glycol air germicide article.

According to the rough statistics in this article, 1ML of propylene glycol is potent enough to, within seconds ,sterilize roughly 2 cubic meters of air. I'd imagine instead of delivering bacteria into the lungs, vaping introduces a potent antibacterial agent into the lungs.

From the times article, the scientist in question sprayed propylene glycol vapor into a mouse cage, and then sprayed the influenza virus. All lof the mice lived. Then he sprayed another group of mice with just the influenza virus. All of them died. (Sad story)

And as for the presence of bacteria in everything, this is indeed true. However, you don't put everything in your mouth, and you certainley don't suck everything into your lungs. It's not so much the presence of bacteria that concerns me, it's the possible delivery vector that smoking affords it.

I'm sure if you took bacteria laden sawdust, and sucked on it repeatedly, it's possible that a good deal of the bacteria would travel through the airways and directly into your lungs. Spending an hour or two a day sucking on something known to harbor bacteria (if they are indeed alive) is a bothersome prospect indeed. Not because of the presence of the bacteria, but because they immediately get a vector into one of the most important organs in your body. You can survive quite a while with liver and kidney failure. A lung failure spells instant death if not remedied.

Very interesting article even though it is from 1942. It's good to know of the germicidal properties of PG and that there didn't appear to be any ill effects to the monkeys that were exposed to it long term. What about VG?

 

[Fumes]

The soggy carts you speak of, might indeed contain bacteria. However, propylene glycol is a very strong anti bacterial agent and are used in disinfection systems for buildings. Any bacteria present in the cartridge would quickly be destroyed by the flood of vapor rapidly plowing towards it on a regular basis.

Well that sounds all well and good, ...., Our lungs are filled with white blood cells (macrophage) that walk around looking for invaders. They are our first line of defense. Regularly inhaling an anti-biotic might kill most or all of them. Of course our bodies would make more of them, I suppose.

interesting
Fumes

 

[Fumes]

Hi all,

Y'know, you guys keep giving me good ideas. I ran across NHaler who makes an herbal juice. He formulated it with extracts that are know to be beneficial to the lungs. I will make my own but you guys gave me the idea to add antibiotics that do not endanger white blood cells. excellent.

This forum kicks ....
I love it
Fumes

How about Oregano juice?

 

[VaporPhreak]

Thank you ladyraj! This is exactly what I was thinking. Not that I am defending Cigs, but honestly the whole bacteria debate is like beating a dead horse... Yes of course cigs have bacteria in them, everything does! Including human beings. thousands if not millions of different strains of them in fact. Some are actually good for you, others not so much. Point being, dont be a germ-a-phobe. I am not trying to flame anyone here, but I hear this from people all the time and its one of biggest pet peeves. Half my family are from the medical field and I grew up hearing them debating it with others. Anyway, off my soapbox now....

Study: Bacteria common in snow

Study: Bacteria common in snow - USATODAY.com

Human Skin Harbors Completely Unknown Bacteria

Human Skin Harbors Completely Unknown Bacteria

Bacteria can be found everywhere and some are good, some are bad. The link supplied by the OP states:

"If these germs are alive, something she has not yet confirmed, just handling cigarettes or putting an unlit one to the mouth could be enough to cause an infection."

Inert bacteria is harmless so one has to inquire why the researcher did not ascertain if the "germs" were alive or not. What is the point of research if the obvious question is never answered?

These type of studies tend to make me laugh but leave me frustrated as well. Most of the bacteria found are in plants/crops via precipitation cycles.

 

[mn shutterbug]

Smokers have been persecuted for way too mny years. I smoked for about 40 years before switching to e-cigs, and I haven't been sick for more than one day in over 20 years. I also never get colds My smokes must have had the good bacteria.