Anticipated battery life and atomizer head life

[Rev Narwhal]

I'm looking forward to trying more stuff out. Going back to the atomizer topic for a second then, have any of you worked out a reasonable expected life on a new atomizer head for something like a ViVi Nova, smok TiTan, or a replaceable Stardust? Since I realized I wasn't cleaning mine well, I've discovered that the three I've decided were "dead" in the last three months, have actually come back to life. The issue with me is that I am often running three or more tanks at once, so the actual duration of any one atomizer is skewed into oblivion. Would you say that planning for one to die every three weeks (assuming it is the primary unit you are using for that three week period) is reasonable?

 

[orbach]

I think 3 weeks is a reasonable assumption. They can last longer but if they do then you're ahead $$-wise.

 

[dannoman]

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These are a must have IMO. Granted, not a true VV, but since I vape around 4.1, they will do. Cut down on Batt usage/cycles when sitting at home on the puter or watching the game..

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[trevor148]

I've got my eye on that amigo. Whenever this vornado pass-through becomes irreparable I'm grabbing one.

 

[zippersnapper]

Well said everyone. Here where Danno (Got Vapes) and myself live, Cigarettes are around $5.85 a pack/nearing $60 a carton.
What started out for me..Just Like Wally, was to get off the dead end road Literally.

As long as you don't let vaping become a full blow "Hobby" like many of us, the savings are substantial. Sure, the intial hardware is a bit, still under 3 cartons, but long term savings is out of this world.

Also, I LOVE the Vivi Nova's as well. Have a boatload of them, but that's because I love to swap juice flavors out all day long (about 25).
So I have a tank with each flavor in it. The economical way of course, is to simply vape the tank dry, clean/dry burn, then fill up with a different flavor. If the Nova heads are cleaned after every 2 tank fulls, or even 1 depending on juice, then they can go for several months.

The trick is to not let them get gunked up REALLY bad, before cleaning. Once the carbon deposits get so bad, then your almost past the point of no return.

"Sweet" flavors, will gunk up your coils pretty quick. A sure way to tell of course, is when your vape goes south of the boarder for no apparent reason. Do not confuse this with "Vapors tongue" however..

 

[trevor148]

If you have the mini nova a little trick you can do to extend the life of the heads is to carefully slide the wick out until you see the black part where the coils were and cut it out. Be careful to leave enough wick to touch both sides of the tank. Before you put it back on the battery check to make sure there are no wraps of the coil touching.

 

[burns_erin]

Ahhh, I see where you are going with this. I dont know that under 2 ml is a reasonable number to use though. I average more than ten. I think the average of average users was closer to five ml per day in the last polls I saw.

If you look down in my banner you will see the dollars saved, that is with cost of goods zeroed out. I have helpfully provided my actual COG to the side of it (this will be within 100 bucks depending on when I've gon back and updated it, but I do so mostly almost immediately when I receive a purchase) and even includes the things I ended up not liking or piffing our still have sitting in a drawer. Since I'm on tapatalk, I can't see it at the moment, but I can guarantee you I've saved. BUT, and this is the biggest, hugest but ever. I was a 3 pack a day smoker with each pack being just shy of 6 bucks each. I was spending more on my cigarettes than food, or my home loan and insurance combined. Frankly, it was the largest monthly expense I had. And I've cut down on this by DIYing a large percentage of my juice. One where the flavors are really cheap even. I've also switched to replaceable battery mods except for some mini egos for travel and my AmiGo's, one for home and one for work. The Amigo's are frankly awesome in that regard, because as you can imagine from the volume of juice I go through, I also go through batteries regularly.

Also, I clean my heads in a sonic cleaner and use peroxide soaks to really get them going. And I use a water pick sometimes from the bottom of the head to really flush them out. The pulsatile action is highly effective and when set on low doesn't destroy them. I can't think of when I might have thrown one away, but they go in rotation until I get a big cup to clean. I suspect though overall life time is going to be impacted by voltage and number of cleanings required as I suspect dry burning them is more stressful on the coils than simple use.

Anyway, I hope some of this helps.

 

[Adrena]

Yep 2 years now @ 5 mils a day. Ever wonder why GV juice came in 36mls when other sell 30? 1 bottle a week 52 bottles a year yeah baby!

adding : That was a day of cigs in my past for a weeks vape now.

 

[Rev Narwhal]

My initial estimates are based on feedback from my local pool of vapers (about 18 people), none of which report using more than 2 ml a day. I think I will up that daily anticipated average based on these last two posts. I don't know that I would have the time a day to actually get through 5 or 10 ml, but clearly it can be done. Mind you, my smoking habit was about half a pack a day, so the idea of getting through three a day is also outside of my scope.

In my study of my local population, I asked both, "how much did you smoke", and "how many ml do you use in a day" hoping to find a trend, but was shocked to find that there didn't seem to be. I should have asked about nic levels in the ejuice they were using as well, but I am now under the opinion that smokers who become vapers develop new habits, so there is likely to not be a real correlation.

Still, providing people with a "reasonable" expectation as to ongoing price helps them. I wish I had found that sort of data years ago.

 

[burns_erin]

My initial estimates are based on feedback from my local pool of vapers (about 18 people), none of which report using more than 2 ml a day. I think I will up that daily anticipated average based on these last two posts. I don't know that I would have the time a day to actually get through 5 or 10 ml, but clearly it can be done. Mind you, my smoking habit was about half a pack a day, so the idea of getting through three a day is also outside of my scope.

In my study of my local population, I asked both, "how much did you smoke", and "how many ml do you use in a day" hoping to find a trend, but was shocked to find that there didn't seem to be. I should have asked about nic levels in the ejuice they were using as well, but I am now under the opinion that smokers who become vapers develop new habits, so there is likely to not be a real correlation.

Still, providing people with a "reasonable" expectation as to ongoing price helps them. I wish I had found that sort of data years ago.

To that then I will add I use 24 mg/ml on my pre-mixed juice and about 20mg/ml on my DIY (easier for me to mix to a nice round number).

 

[Adrena]

18 Mg here I could see 2 mils for me lasting a day @ 24mgs, but I'm wired and hyper at 24mgs...

 

[trevor148]

I've always used more liquid with tanks. When I use stallions I use about 2-2.5 ml a day. With my nova I was using 3-4 ml a day.

 

[Rev Narwhal]

So anticipating the need to replace an eGo style battery every 6 months, is more assuming that someone dropped it, ran over it with their car, it fell in the toilet, or something like that, and is most likely not because the battery isn't "performing" any longer. I think I'd like to keep the theoretical need to replace around that 6 month mark, just for those other conditions.

And the data I've gotten from several manufacturers that an atomizer on a ViVi Nova only lasting about 2 to 6 weeks is greatly less than real world experience from those I have heard from. I may up my expectation to one per month as failures do happen, and the last thing I want to do is to present an unrealistically low estimate.

 

[Rev Narwhal]

Still gotta figure out what I'm going to do with ejuice estimates. I think it has a lot to do with what people pick, and from where. Some company's juice just burns so much quicker than others. I don't yet feel comfortable saying that a new vaper should expect to use more than 3 ml a day, and even that seems quite high to me based on the 17 IRL people I have spoken with. I'd rather give people a high estimate, but not an unreasonably high one.

 

[MorpheusPA]

Hardware estimates sound reasonable. At nearly month five every single item I have works (with a six month average, some should have failed at this point, or been dropped in the toilet, and that hasn't happened). I'd rather set it at a higher than expected level and be pleasantly surprised.

Particularly since my cousin lost one of his after two months. He's that sort of person. And it wasn't a cig-alike, let's just say that!

For liquids, 3 ml per day is a pretty reasonable, if somewhat high, estimate. Even if they eventually stabilize a lot lower, most of us found we chain-vaped during the transition. Mom used to go through 3 ml. Now she's down to 1-2, with 2 being rare.