Anxiety and restlessness

[Stevenovich]

Hello, I am writing to try to find a solution to my problem.

I will preface this by saying that I am an anxious person and am being treated for anxiety disorders.

I am 33 years old and have smoked cigarettes (6-12 a day) from the age of 16 until last year. During all these years there were quite long periods when I stopped smoking traditional cigarettes and smoked electronic cigarettes. In particular I used Justfog Q16 and afterwards I used Aspire Triton Mini (I don't remember the battery).
In October 2023, I stopped smoking traditional cigarettes for good thanks to the Geekvape Wenax M1. From September I switched to the Vaporesso Luxe X2 and the problems started....
I specify that:
1) I vape without nicotine or with maximum nicotine at 2-3
2) I have always vaped the same Supreme First Pick Rebrand liquid
3) In switching from the Geekvape to the Luce X2 I increased my daily vaping to 10-15ml and then started making my own liquids...

I'm not sure when, but it seems to me that ever since I started vaping with the X2 I've been experiencing palpitations, heart in the throat feeling, nervousness and anxiety immediately after vaping. My heartbeats are regular (I don't have tachycardia) and I also had a cardiological check-up during these episodes which found no abnormalities. I therefore thought it was anxiety, however I noticed a strong connection between vaping and the almost immediate increase in anxiety.

I read somewhere that it could also be an allergy or intolerance to PG. However, it does not seem to me that these symptoms I have are among the symptoms of allergy or intolerance. Also, can an intolerance arise like this? I am very confused and stressed. I would like to find a solution to avoid going back to smoking traditional cigarettes. At the moment I have not vaped for a week and all symptoms have passed, however if I try to take a few puffs I feel a strong anxiety and like a thump in my heart that lasts for a few hours.

 

[smacuser]

Welcome to ECF my friend.

On its face, maybe you’re getting more effective doses of nicotine with the newer device and may need to lower the percentage in your mixing.

 

[Stevenovich]

Mi è capitato anche con liquidi senza nicotina. E ripeto, sento le palpitazioni ma quando misuro i battiti sono normali

 

[Stevenovich]

Benvenuto all'ECF, amico mio.

A prima vista, forse con il dispositivo più nuovo stai assumendo dosi di nicotina più efficaci e potresti dover ridurre la percentuale nella miscelazione.

PG could cause these symptoms? Or some type of aroma?

 

[smacuser]

PG could cause these symptoms? Or some type of aroma?

The act of vaping in itself can cause certain levels of anxiety. Not having researched the progression of devices you have used up until now, it’s my guess that the Geekvape is producing more clouds, thus making more vapor by volume. Having not become accustomed to it, your body may be reacting differently.

Could most likely be psychosomatic.

 

[Stevenovich]

L'atto di svapare in sé può causare certi livelli di ansia. Non avendo studiato la progressione dei dispositivi che hai usato finora, suppongo che Geekvape stia producendo più nuvole, creando quindi più vapore in volume. Non essendoci abituato, il tuo corpo potrebbe reagire in modo diverso.

Potrebbe essere molto probabilmente psicosomatico.

I Wish solve it.. any advice?

 

[smacuser]

I Wish solve it.. any advice?

Go back to the set up before you were having problems and see if you can establish a baseline.

 

[Stevenovich]

OK, proverò a tornare alla situazione precedente anche se ho un po' paura di svapare... In realtà non credo che sia un problema di nicotina perché non uso dosaggi così alti e comunque non ho mai avuto problemi con le sigarette. D'altro canto, mi sembra che molte persone lamentino gli stessi sintomi che ho io... e la maggior parte di noi soffre già di disturbi d'ansia e usa farmaci (io uso Xanax e Sertralina per esempio). È possibile che PG o VG interagiscano con i farmaci o abbiano comunque un effetto eccitatorio?

 

[smacuser]

Usually, it’s skin rashes and zitz.

 

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[Stevenovich]

Excuse me for writing in Italian. It was a mistake.

In any case, today I tried vaping using the old device and the old liquids without nicotine. Unfortunately I feel sick. I feel strong anxiety and palpitations. I think I have developed some problem with PG or with vaping in general. I'm sorry because it relaxed me and I was more fulfilled than traditional smoking....

 

[no|ah]

Welcome to ECF.

Excuse me for writing in Italian. It was a mistake.

In any case, today I tried vaping using the old device and the old liquids without nicotine. Unfortunately I feel sick. I feel strong anxiety and palpitations. I think I have developed some problem with PG or with vaping in general. I'm sorry because it relaxed me and I was more fulfilled than traditional smoking....

I'd try vaping straight 100% VG for awhile, nothing else. If you tolerate it, then you can slowly introduce nic, different flavors, sweeteners, PG, etc. If you don't, you could try 100% PG.

A couple more things come to mind. If you can't tolerate VG, you might just need to try a different source: I've read about people that have issues with coconut and palm derived VG that can vape soy VG without a problem (the reverse is probably true as well). Also might be worth looking into the symptoms of nickle allergies and/or trying to get kanthal coils to rule it out.

 

[francisis]

It seems like you might be reacting to an ingredient in your liquid or the way you’re vaping with the X2. While PG intolerance usually causes physical irritation, some people report general discomfort or anxiety. The increase in vaping amount could also be playing a role.

You could try using 100% VG liquids with fewer flavor additives to see if that helps. Another option is to reduce your vaping amount and take softer inhales. Since your symptoms disappeared when you stopped vaping, it might be a reaction specific to the X2 or its liquid combination.

If the anxiety persists, it might be worth discussing with your doctor to rule out other factors. Hope you find a solution without going back to smoking!