Any Diabetics out there?

[Riggs-]

I assume that there is, but as far as real life goes, I don't know any other diabetics that smoke, and all of the people I regularly hang out with aren't diabetic. I've read a few things on how smoking can reduce the effectiveness of insulin by 20% or so, but at this point I have no idea.

Right now I've been mixing the e-cig with regular cigs and have probably cut the regular cigs down to about half of what I was at (down to 5-10 cigs a day rather than 1 - 1.5 PAD). If there are any diabetics (I'm type 1 myself) out there I have a question for you.

Have you notice any beneficial (or negative) affects of switching to e-cigs vs. tobacco regarding diabetes?

Thank you,
Riggs-

 

[lolady]

Hi, Riggs!

I'm new, too, and I've just started, my doctor told me to check my fasting numbers, just to catch it in case I happen to be one of the few people who gets spikes from propylene glycol, and I've been dutifully doing that and haven't noticed any problems, touch wood and pet spirits!

The health section here has some stuff, and I did a blogrant, which you're welcome to read but it basically takes 9 squillion words to say what I just said!

In the unlikely event that you should happen to be one of the unlucky few who is bothered by it, you can just use juices that are made with vegetable glyerine mixed in, which lots of people say is better anyway. I'm still too clueless to know why, but there are so many people here who are positively crawling with knowledge and information, you will love it here!

 

[incog]

I have type II but don't use insulin. My numbers went down a couple of notches, but not up. I have not had any spikes at all using 100% PG and PG VG blends.

 

[redheadone]

My ex-brother-in-law is an diabetic type two and has switched totally to e-cigs. He has had no negative effects whatsoever to vaping and he says is health has improved. He still has to check his levels twice a day but so far so good he vapes total pg or a pg vg mix so i would not know about all vg or mostly vg

 

[hawkizefan]

I've not noticed a change in my blood sugars, insulin use or my cholesterol. I do smell better however.

 

[hawkizefan]

Ah riggs...just noticed you're an Omahaian also. Small world.

 

[Uncle]

Great Question - "Riggs" . . . Thanks . . .
I'm diabetic also - Type II for the past 7 years . . . and just got here too . . .
So I will be watching your post to see what others have to say . . .
Again, Thank you for bringing up the subject . . .

Oh Yea - I almost forgot - good luck . . .

 

[stillalive]

I have pre-diabetes (so pre-type-II, obviously) with severe hypoglycemic episodes. So far I'm doing better, not worse, although I never used nicotine prior to vaping. I vape 100% vg. I feel a lot better overall.

 

[MagnusEunson]

I've done some reading on this and it would appear that if your nicotine levels remain a constant that even though nicotine does cause insulin response fluctuations that other components of analog cigarettes in sum total increased that substantially. So you're better off in that regard based on recent study returns. -Magnus

 

[Susett]

I assume that there is, but as far as real life goes, I don't know any other diabetics that smoke, and all of the people I regularly hang out with aren't diabetic. I've read a few things on how smoking can reduce the effectiveness of insulin by 20% or so, but at this point I have no idea.

Right now I've been mixing the e-cig with regular cigs and have probably cut the regular cigs down to about half of what I was at (down to 5-10 cigs a day rather than 1 - 1.5 PAD). If there are any diabetics (I'm type 1 myself) out there I have a question for you.

Have you notice any beneficial (or negative) affects of switching to e-cigs vs. tobacco regarding diabetes?

Thank you,
Riggs-

Type II here.. I havent had any changes caused by vaping that I can tell so far (its been about 3months now). But doc did tell me to stay off the nic as diabetis causes circulation probs and clogged .. She said Nic caused cloggin up arteries also. My brothers doc told him to vape the nic it was better than smoking, but then the surgen that had to go unblock arteries in his chest and leg told him the nic does clog.. so best to leave the nic or at least cut down as much as you can. Three docs and three opinions lol .. but to play safe im off the nic so im off to look for strong flavs.. gotta go look at the juice forum and see who has the strongest juices lol .. anyway best of luck with the vaping and the diabetis

 

[hairball]

Hubby is pre-stage type II. He went to vaping instead of chewing. So far, no hicks in levels. Infact, they dropped a little.

 

[webgeek]

Type II, on a small daily dose of long-acting insulin. Over the course of the last 10 years or so, I've had no fewer than three doctors (one GP, one internist and one wunderkind cardiologist) tell me that nothing would help me more than quitting smoking. Even if I gained 30 pounds, the weight was less harmful than the smoke. I've only had one comment on the ecig, but she was supportive. It's better than smoking. I haven't seen fluctuation of my sugars with the ecig, but remember that smoking raises your blood sugar too.

 

[hawkizefan]

My endo was completely clueless about e-cigs/vaping. Her practitioner ( read that as the real brains behind the operation ) was very supportive. She had no real idea what it was all about, and I explained the ingredients and whatnot and she said that as long as you are cutting out all the other crap that she was all for it. She also said that vaping had to be better than smoking but not vaping or sucking anything into your lungs would be best.

I have given up a lot because of diabetes and one of the hardest things ever to give up was a nice hand rolled Drum cig. All the foods I use to love that I can't eat anymore are just that....simply things that I can't eat anymore. If I were on death row my last meal would be a heaping plate of waffles, soaked in butter and SWIMMING in hot maple syrup. And ice cream...and a cream filled long john with maple icing and nuts...and pretty much anything in aisle 5 at Hy-vee. Now sure, I could just bump my bolus WAY up and eat like that anyway ( I know diabetics that do ) but the fallout of eating like that lasts for days with me. Really...food addictions were not that hard for me to break, but giving up my hand rolled drummies was. 40 to 50 drummies a day when I picked up my first e-cig. Within a week I had all but quit smoking. Within 2 weeks I was done.

Yes, not putting anything in your lungs would be better than vaping and I don't think anyone disputes that. But to be where I am today as opposed to where I was 7 months ago still amazes me...and it was way easier than any other method I had tried.

For some reason I have a hankerin to go to the waffle house...and hy-vee...strange.

 

[Shadow Ryder]

I'm type 2 been vaping over a year and my numbers dropped several notches dosen't matter whether it PG or VG I'm a VG vaper they used to use VG as a sweetener many moons ago. keep up the good work and remember to test,test,test. what works for one may not work for another diabetic we have verry personalized condition.


Shadow.

 

[Riggs-]

Whoa, some how this thread got removed from my subscriptions and I forgot about it

Anyways, I'm actually pretty surprised that there are that many around here. Guess I'm not alone.

So far I haven't really noticed any changes in levels, but I'm also in the process of recovering from burnout. I probably test a few times a day now rather than a few times a week as I had been doing.

Really switching to e-cigs is a part of me trying to me more healthy. Cutting out fast food, cutting out smoking, checking BGs more often etc.

Is there a Nebraska/Omaha sub forum?
edit: There is, but it looks pretty dead :/

Thanks,
Riggs-

 

[hawkizefan]

Riggs...don't go into the nebraska vaper subforum alone...it's dark, scary and lonely in there. Rumor has it this one guy went in there and was never heard from again...lol.

Seriously though, it's not only nice to see another Omaha vaper (almost thought I was the only one) but another local pancreatically challenged omaha vaper is way weird.

Perhaps someone who is WAY more computer literate than I am should start a diabetics subforum.

Testing is paramount...I do at least 10 a day (fingertips are like leather) you can't follow trends without input. Glad you replied in the thread. What part of the big "O" do you reside? I'm in Papillion.

 

[Riggs-]

Riggs...don't go into the nebraska vaper subforum alone...it's dark, scary and lonely in there. Rumor has it this one guy went in there and was never heard from again...lol.

Seriously though, it's not only nice to see another Omaha vaper (almost thought I was the only one) but another local pancreatically challenged omaha vaper is way weird.

Perhaps someone who is WAY more computer literate than I am should start a diabetics subforum.

Testing is paramount...I do at least 10 a day (fingertips are like leather) you can't follow trends without input. Glad you replied in the thread. What part of the big "O" do you reside? I'm in Papillion.

I live in mid townish over by all the new stuff that they built, near the Attic bar and grill if you know where that is (it's closed now).

It is kind of weird, I haven't even seen another person on here that is in Nebraska, let alone the same city with the same condition. Also I use to roll my own Drum's too, just remembered that I didn't smoke them exclusively though.

Having a diabetic subforum would be pretty awesome. We should look into that, maybe there is enough of us here to warrant our own sub forum.

Riggs-

 

[hawkizefan]

I think 2 is enough to start a sub-forum and I'm sure there are a few more 'betics out there lurking. Thank god vaping hasn't affected my "affliction"...don't know what I would do. That was a big concern for me when I started.

What hardware and whatnot are you using Riggs? Myself I'm vaping a Maxi Roughstack @ 5v with dual coils mainly. Burning up a lot of Madvapes Dekang and waiting to get to the mailbox when I get home for some Backwoods Brew (first order) and some Iken 801 fusions and a few more items. Mainly a carto guy and have heard good things about the 801's.

Glad to see another local vaper....maybe one day we will get the chance to meet up and tell each other lies.

 

[sierrabravo]

If there are any diabetics (I'm type 1 myself) out there I have a question for you.

Have you notice any beneficial (or negative) affects of switching to e-cigs vs. tobacco regarding diabetes?

Hi Riggs,
I'm a type 1 too. I haven't noticed anything specific in terms of my a1c going up or down in relation to switching over to e-cigs (it's been going up, but I'm willing to bet that has more to do with me sitting on my .... and not monitoring/controlling my bg nearly as well as I should... )
I've also taped my nic level down, and should be on 0mg juice sooner rather than later, so we'll see if that has an effect.

 

[Riggs-]

I think 2 is enough to start a sub-forum and I'm sure there are a few more 'betics out there lurking. Thank god vaping hasn't affected my "affliction"...don't know what I would do. That was a big concern for me when I started.

What hardware and whatnot are you using Riggs? Myself I'm vaping a Maxi Roughstack @ 5v with dual coils mainly. Burning up a lot of Madvapes Dekang and waiting to get to the mailbox when I get home for some Backwoods Brew (first order) and some Iken 801 fusions and a few more items. Mainly a carto guy and have heard good things about the 801's.

Glad to see another local vaper....maybe one day we will get the chance to meet up and tell each other lies.

I'm using a Provari with XL CE2's from madvapes right now at 4.4v. I have a few dual coils from them as well, but the CE2's seem to be doing it for me. I'm still playing around with juices. So far I'm really like the vanilla from vapor bomb, unless someone else has a better suggestion for a good vanilla. I have 6 different 5ML bottles coming in here pretty soon to try those out, as well as another box of CE2's.

As for the sub-forums I'm not even sure who I would contact, and I don't really have much of reputation around here yet, so I have no idea if I could even get one started by contacting the correct person.

Hi Riggs,
I'm a type 1 too. I haven't noticed anything specific in terms of my a1c going up or down in relation to switching over to e-cigs (it's been going up, but I'm willing to bet that has more to do with me sitting on my .... and not monitoring/controlling my bg nearly as well as I should... )
I've also taped my nic level down, and should be on 0mg juice sooner rather than later, so we'll see if that has an effect.

I'm kinda in the same boat. I've been trying to test more often and keep track of everything better than I am now. I also plan on tapering my nic levels, although at this point I'm just trying to get up to the point where I don't get cravings. Currently I still have 1-2 cigs a day, but that's way down from my 1 -1.5 PAD.

Since you've been tapering your nic levels down I have a question for you. It seems like if you taper off the nic levels you would just end up vaping more to keep up. What has your experience been with the tapering?

Riggs-