Anyone build an automatic mod?

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FantWriter

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I've tried manuals, and they just aren't for me -- I need something I can hold between two fingers exactly like a regular cig or (more usual) hang off the corner of my mouth while my hands are busy.

I'm thinking that maybe, someday, perhaps I'll think about building one of my own design. There's a wealth of info here, but everything is about manuals.

Does anyone build automatic mods and/or have schematics/parts lists/parts sources for automatics?
 

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The thread should only be n the first few pages, but I'm not sure exactly where. S;opes, the member who created "el ......," the world's smallest e-cig was also working on (finished maybe?) a model which worked with a tilt sensor. Naturally tilted upward, like one does while holding a cig, it is off. Tilted downward, as it typically is when taking a drag, it is switched on. He was working on putting in a cutoff timer so it wouldn't just continually burn if you happen to have it tilted a little more than intended. As far as holding it in your mouth, for most PVs, that's typically difficult because of the weight of the battery but the tilt sensor ...... may be a winning design for you because of its size.

EDIT - Found the thread here.

I'm not sure if anyone has done any pressure-sensitive mods like some of the commercial models, but I know at least some of the cheaper ones use (or did in the past) a tiny microphone as a switch. The are problems with all automatics - specifically, they can turn on when you don't mean for them to. Also, they typically require you to draw air before they activate. However quickly that is, it's still an unnatural thing to draw and get nothing. That's why a lot of experienced vapers go with manuals. Modders prefer to build manuals because of the same reasons, plus a momentary pushbutton is cheaper and doesn't require cutoff circuitry.

That's not to say that you shouldn't use an automatic - just find the one that works best for you. On that note, have you tried any of the commercial autos? Maybe try a disposable and be sure it is what you want if you haven't. You may be surprised.

Good luck, and happy vaping!
 
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That's not to say that you shouldn't use an automatic - just find the one that works best for you. On that note, have you tried any of the commercial autos? Maybe try a disposable and be sure it is what you want if you haven't. You may be surprised.

Thanks for the link -- that's awesome!

I tried a wide variety of models/styles and now use 808 autos (batteries and PTs). I've heard they can turn on when they shouldn't, but I've been vaping since last year and it hasn't happened, yet. (Conversely, when my battery died when I was driving, I grabbed an old emergency pack of regular cigs out of the glove compartment, lit one, and just like I'd gotten into the habit of doing with my PVs, took a couple of drags and dropped it into my pocket.)

The real reason I'm thinking about building a mod is that I start planning now, there's a good chance I'll have at least a few good ideas before I need to actually design and build my own because the commercial ones have been banned.
 
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Generally it's the mic-activated auto batts that can activate unintentionally due to ambient noise or just rustling around in a pocket. However, KR808D-1 auto batts typically use a pneumatic switch activated by the vacuum of drawing air through the carto, so they're much less likely to activate inadvertently.

I've considered taking a dead auto batt, gutting/dismantling it, and putting some sort of cannister on the end at a right-angle, corncob-pipe style, big enough to hold a RCR123A/16340 or even an 18350.
 
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