So I bought a pass thru a few weeks ago... anyway, it has been collecting dust since it will not work with any of my cartos. It worked well with a few older reg cartos... well they are all dead and unavailable for purchase. All I had from V4L were the gold soft caps and it just doesn't work with those. Anyway, out of desperation to use it I (please don't thrash me!) ordered some Mega Cartomizers from another vendor. Guess what? They don't work either. How can it work with the old ones and not the new ones? I really don't want to ask for a replacement as I have already had to ship back 3 batteries in the last 6 weeks and they are going to start seeing my emails and think "Oh no, her again!". Anyway, I even tried messing with that little screw thing on the bottom in case it wasn't making contact. Having seen people advise against it I was hesitant to fiddle too much but figured it was worth a shot. Before, I email them is there something I am missing here?
Anyone help me figure out my Pass thru problem, pretty please?
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Ok did you try them on a battery? and did they work on them?
if you have tried and they did work.. then we can rule out the cartomizer being bad.
First,(which you might not have the means) is to test the pass through with a multimeter. setting it to DC Voltage black probe center post of PT,red probe outer ring activate the PT and see if you have voltage.. voltage= good PT.
Now with that techy talk out of the way... you can guess that the PT works and try below:
if they thread on the passthru with no problems and you think you are not making contact.. one thing to do is fiddle with the center post of the cartomizer connection
NOW don't twist... but you can gently pull that center post out just a tiny tiny bit.. find something small like a tooth pick and pry (ever so gently) the post by the sides ..evenly all around... meaning dont just pry one end ..go around evenly.
it doesn't have to be much but a little bit can go a long way...
if you have done that/or just did that and it still doesn't work.. I am cashed out on ideas
good luck though
if you have tried and they did work.. then we can rule out the cartomizer being bad.
First,(which you might not have the means) is to test the pass through with a multimeter. setting it to DC Voltage black probe center post of PT,red probe outer ring activate the PT and see if you have voltage.. voltage= good PT.
Now with that techy talk out of the way... you can guess that the PT works and try below:
if they thread on the passthru with no problems and you think you are not making contact.. one thing to do is fiddle with the center post of the cartomizer connection
NOW don't twist... but you can gently pull that center post out just a tiny tiny bit.. find something small like a tooth pick and pry (ever so gently) the post by the sides ..evenly all around... meaning dont just pry one end ..go around evenly.
it doesn't have to be much but a little bit can go a long way...
if you have done that/or just did that and it still doesn't work.. I am cashed out on ideas
good luck though
I suspect you're going to find inadequate power sourced, Gooey. Asking someone to buy a multimeter and overcome their fear of it afterwards is probably... excessive. We "all" know what the underlying problem is here, it's simple math and even simpler electronics (although faaaaar beyond the reach of most of the ecig industry as a whole): at some point someone in the industry needs to suck it up and acknowledge that the premium carts drive the source out-of-spec for USB. Great on battery with high instantaneous wattage on-tap, but well out-of-spec coming off a USB port.
We "all" know what the underlying problem is here, it's simple math and even simpler electronics (although faaaaar beyond the reach of most of the ecig industry as a whole): at some point someone in the industry needs to suck it up and acknowledge that the premium carts drive the source out-of-spec for USB. Great on battery with high instantaneous wattage on-tap, but well out-of-spec coming off a USB port.
Um I didn't ask anyone to buy a multimeter, but if one had one that would be what you would do.... I also mentioned that if that wasn't possible to guess that the pt is good
and basically try stuff that are with in the means of being multimeter deprived
and if it is a USB power source issue... which is a possibility ...since that is common to all
and if it is what we all know ,and all the simples you are saying it is, that is telling me that the "new-to-her" cartos are of much less resistance level then the "old-to-her" cartos that worked on the PT. ("" quotes are applied since I don't know what is old and new any more )
So if that is the known..... a simple the cartos that you currently have might not allow the PT to supply enough power for you to utilize your "new" cartos
"Do you have an ac to dc usb power supply to test that?"
and that could be determined if her "new" cartos worked on the battery and depending on the results to my previous post tips.
and even if it is what you suggested there should still be some signs of cartomizer activity even on a PC USB..
in short Adren.. we don't need to Engineer up a post to weed out the issues and come to a solution.
and basically try stuff that are with in the means of being multimeter deprived
and if it is a USB power source issue... which is a possibility ...since that is common to all
and if it is what we all know ,and all the simples you are saying it is, that is telling me that the "new-to-her" cartos are of much less resistance level then the "old-to-her" cartos that worked on the PT. ("" quotes are applied since I don't know what is old and new any more
)So if that is the known..... a simple the cartos that you currently have might not allow the PT to supply enough power for you to utilize your "new" cartos
"Do you have an ac to dc usb power supply to test that?"
and that could be determined if her "new" cartos worked on the battery and depending on the results to my previous post tips.
and even if it is what you suggested there should still be some signs of cartomizer activity even on a PC USB..
in short Adren.. we don't need to Engineer up a post to weed out the issues and come to a solution.
Well I have never had much use for a multi-meter. However, now that I have a use looks like it is time to purchase one. I am pretty sure a basic cheapo can be had for between 15-20. Hubby recently mentioned that he needed on for something related to his guitar rig anyway... two birds with one stone
Thanks LigthGeo for giving me the basics on how to use it.
I appreciate the input from both of you...
No worries, I am not afraid of using it. I have simply have had no professional or practical need (like many others on here I am sure) to pursue even basic knowledge of electrical engineering.
I touched on this pass thru briefly in another thread but let it drop since I did not want to hijack ...but others mentioned that they were using their premium cartos with the pass thrus with no issues other than that they get very hot and blow thru juice like no body's business.
Leaford chimed in an suggested that it may be a bad passthru. Maybe it is.
I do know that I am using the same cartos on my batteries and they function perfectly. That is what led me to believe there is something odd here. It seemed counterintuitive to me that the new premiums that have a lower resistance would take less current to operate and that the older with the higher resistance would take more current...
Anyway, I am going to get a multimeter. I will also purchase yet another ugly "wall wart" and see if it is the USB port (I have been running it off of a spare laptop since I am afraid to hook it up to my iMac). At this point I don't even know if I care about the passthru. I just want to know why the new ones won't work.
Anyway, no need to waste anymore time until I test the thing and see what a multi-meter says. I will post it when I get it done. Thanks very much for your time and input!
Thanks LigthGeo for giving me the basics on how to use it.
I appreciate the input from both of you...
No worries, I am not afraid of using it. I have simply have had no professional or practical need (like many others on here I am sure) to pursue even basic knowledge of electrical engineering.
I touched on this pass thru briefly in another thread but let it drop since I did not want to hijack ...but others mentioned that they were using their premium cartos with the pass thrus with no issues other than that they get very hot and blow thru juice like no body's business.
Leaford chimed in an suggested that it may be a bad passthru. Maybe it is.
I do know that I am using the same cartos on my batteries and they function perfectly. That is what led me to believe there is something odd here. It seemed counterintuitive to me that the new premiums that have a lower resistance would take less current to operate and that the older with the higher resistance would take more current...
Anyway, I am going to get a multimeter. I will also purchase yet another ugly "wall wart" and see if it is the USB port (I have been running it off of a spare laptop since I am afraid to hook it up to my iMac). At this point I don't even know if I care about the passthru. I just want to know why the new ones won't work.
Anyway, no need to waste anymore time until I test the thing and see what a multi-meter says. I will post it when I get it done. Thanks very much for your time and input!
its the other way around lower resistance would require higher current and if it is true that the newer cartos have lower resistance... plus if they work on your batteries and you are trying to power it with lets say your computer USB ... then that may explain your dilemma.
not having a proper power source
but since you plan on buying a multimeter anyway... it never hurts to eliminate one more variable and check to see if your pt is at least still providing an output
not having a proper power source
but since you plan on buying a multimeter anyway... it never hurts to eliminate one more variable and check to see if your pt is at least still providing an output
ahhh... the other way around! Ok, I see now! Thank you.
Mystery solved, I should have done this before I bothered y'all. I ventured into husbands man cave and used some of his usb ports (thank god I didn't fry anything of his- I would feel awful!) and found this...
My Older Hp laptop will not power the premiums.
My brand new Imac will not power the premiums.
Hubbys older Apple Cinema display powered it though.
Also, used the usb on hubbys HP Photosmart printer and that worked as well.
I had previously gotten suggestions on where to find a wall wort that would power this thing and I guess I will just heed their kind suggestions and be done with the whole problem.
I can't say I understand why it won't work on a new Imac...because I use that port all the time with other things but for whatever reason it doesn't. C'est la vie! Thanks so much- saved me from hassling V4L for no reason!
Mystery solved, I should have done this before I bothered y'all. I ventured into husbands man cave and used some of his usb ports (thank god I didn't fry anything of his- I would feel awful!) and found this...
My Older Hp laptop will not power the premiums.
My brand new Imac will not power the premiums.
Hubbys older Apple Cinema display powered it though.
Also, used the usb on hubbys HP Photosmart printer and that worked as well.
I had previously gotten suggestions on where to find a wall wort that would power this thing and I guess I will just heed their kind suggestions and be done with the whole problem.
I can't say I understand why it won't work on a new Imac...because I use that port all the time with other things but for whatever reason it doesn't. C'est la vie! Thanks so much- saved me from hassling V4L for no reason!
If you still want a meter, for most things a cheapie little Harbor Freight meter will do the job well enough. On sale, ~$2.50-$5.00, off sale, about $8.00
You may have a Harbor Freight near you. I buy those meters to loan out/give away to students and haul up ladders by the case. Battery dies? Throw the meter out.
You may have a Harbor Freight near you. I buy those meters to loan out/give away to students and haul up ladders by the case. Battery dies? Throw the meter out.
If you still want a meter, for most things a cheapie little Harbor Freight meter will do the job well enough. On sale, ~$2.50-$5.00, off sale, about $8.00
You may have a Harbor Freight near you. I buy those meters to loan out/give away to students and haul up ladders by the case. Battery dies? Throw the meter out.
Thanks! Never heard of the place but there is one pretty close and basic purposes is absolutely all I intend to use it for and it seems like a pretty useful thing to have around!
sure thing!
These are the ones I buy: 7 Function Multimeter
But like I say - I wait for 'em to go on sale.
I've actually never had one fail out of several hundred. The batteries die and I advise people throw them away at that point, but I've not even heard of one I've given away failing. I've seen them blown up from 1D10T errors (operator error), but not legitimately fail.
For anything I care to be really precise on, I use multi-thousand-dollar Fluke and Agilent meters, but hauling those up a ladder or giving them to a middle school student is pretty much out of the question.
These are the ones I buy: 7 Function Multimeter
But like I say - I wait for 'em to go on sale.
I've actually never had one fail out of several hundred. The batteries die and I advise people throw them away at that point, but I've not even heard of one I've given away failing. I've seen them blown up from 1D10T errors (operator error), but not legitimately fail.
For anything I care to be really precise on, I use multi-thousand-dollar Fluke and Agilent meters, but hauling those up a ladder or giving them to a middle school student is pretty much out of the question.
Oh - I should give you my hard-won Harbor Freight advice (after nearly two decades of buying from them):
It's easy to go "kid in candy store" in there, but be aware:
It's cheap Chinese Junk.
1: Never buy a battery operated power tool there.
2: They DO honor the warranty, no questions.
3: Never buy anything you're going to use daily or really depend upon to function there.
4: Don't take any specification on the package/site/flyer seriously
If you follow those rules, you'll enjoy many great experiences in said candy store. I have tools I've bought there almost twenty years ago that are still getting used almost daily and perform flawlessly for an insanely cheap price. And I've got bits of tools laying around that didn't make it ten minutes before failing spectacularly... Kinda remains you of V4L, eh? ;-)
It's easy to go "kid in candy store" in there, but be aware:
It's cheap Chinese Junk.
1: Never buy a battery operated power tool there.
2: They DO honor the warranty, no questions.
3: Never buy anything you're going to use daily or really depend upon to function there.
4: Don't take any specification on the package/site/flyer seriously
If you follow those rules, you'll enjoy many great experiences in said candy store. I have tools I've bought there almost twenty years ago that are still getting used almost daily and perform flawlessly for an insanely cheap price. And I've got bits of tools laying around that didn't make it ten minutes before failing spectacularly... Kinda remains you of V4L, eh? ;-)
is this a new product? I keep waiting for them to carry one but have never seen it on their site ... I do know that several other vendors have some one their sites but have never seen a V4L one.
You mean you can buy stuff that isn't made in China??
V4L had a wall adapter and an automotive adapter. The wall adapter is out of stock - but it was underspec'd for the "premium" cartomizers. The automotive adapter was in stock with a claimed 2A which is fine.
"Cheap Chinese Junk" versus "Good Chinese Stuff" is really a reality. It becomes a reality with proper management of the manufacturer. Harbor Freight doesn't care - they're just going for the price-point. It's cheap and junk and they're fine with that - and the customer that doesn't expect better will be too, imho.
"Cheap Chinese Junk" versus "Good Chinese Stuff" is really a reality. It becomes a reality with proper management of the manufacturer. Harbor Freight doesn't care - they're just going for the price-point. It's cheap and junk and they're fine with that - and the customer that doesn't expect better will be too, imho.
Maybe soon we will be able to vape, off the walls.
It's About Time: Power Plug Wall Sockets WIth USB Ports Built In | Popular Science
It's About Time: Power Plug Wall Sockets WIth USB Ports Built In | Popular Science
If you're going to use a PT, then you absolutely DON'T want those. Not even of any value with standard cartomizers...
Specifications:
Input voltage: AC 100 to 240V 50/60Hz
USB input current: 80mA
Output voltage: USB: DC 5.0V 600mA
Operation temperature: -15 to 45 Degrees Celsius
Relative humidity: < 95%
Air pressure: 86 to 106kPa
Specifications:
Input voltage: AC 100 to 240V 50/60Hz
USB input current: 80mA
Output voltage: USB: DC 5.0V 600mA
Operation temperature: -15 to 45 Degrees Celsius
Relative humidity: < 95%
Air pressure: 86 to 106kPa
Geez-o-pete, maybe we need premium PTs then, that are true USB devices.Unless... they upgrade the USB specifications to 2 amps?
Lastly, if all else fails, could they just make a transformer plug instead of a USB plug for the PT?
Doesn't Duracell, Energizer, or Kesington have a 2amp wall adaptor?
2A+ adapters and hubs are out there in numbers. Just need to pick a reputable supplier that is providing 2A+ continuous rather than peak.
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