Anyone here used fasttech.

[trouble1000]

Bob - love the look of your new toy mate. Bet over time it will tarnish really well and have a lovely patina to it.

Trisha - have you ever thought about getting into DIY mixing. You can buy the nic solution as a PG or a VG base. Buy some extra VG to dilute it to the right strength. Then it will only be your flavourings that contain PG. If you use 10% flavouring in a mix, you'll basically have a 10PG/90VG mix - might help with the issues with your sensitivity to PG. When I mix I use AG instead of VG, it's a mixture of VG with distilled water - as VG tends to be quite thick, the distilled water makes it easier to work with. Plus if you buy highly concentrated flavourings like "Inawera" you only need 2-5% flavouring in a mix, so this will lower the PG amount even more. A lot of people think DIY is complicated, but to be honest it's pretty easy. The hardest part is getting the right amount of flavour in a mix.

Dan - Nice reviews mate. The apple pie and custard sounds really tempting

Terry - leave those baffles alone

Cody - I thought you were cutting back on juice buying

 

[terry w]

Bob - love the look of your new toy mate. Bet over time it will tarnish really well and have a lovely patina to it.

Trisha - have you ever thought about getting into DIY mixing. You can buy the nic solution as a PG or a VG base. Buy some extra VG to dilute it to the right strength. Then it will only be your flavourings that contain PG. If you use 10% flavouring in a mix, you'll basically have a 10PG/90VG mix - might help with the issues with your sensitivity to PG. When I mix I use AG instead of VG, it's a mixture of VG with distilled water - as VG tends to be quite thick, the distilled water makes it easier to work with. Plus if you buy highly concentrated flavourings like "Inawera" you only need 2-5% flavouring in a mix, so this will lower the PG amount even more. A lot of people think DIY is complicated, but to be honest it's pretty easy. The hardest part is getting the right amount of flavour in a mix.

Dan - Nice reviews mate. The apple pie and custard sounds really tempting



Cody - I thought you were cutting back on juice buying

Terry - leave those baffles alone
LOL yeah mate, TBH with you i am quite happy with the sound of them since i drilled them out.

 

[terry w]

30ml of the spotted d.ck and custard
10ml each of ABC, mint choc vapeto & Jamaican Ginger.

Should keep my dessert cravings in check for a while

Out of them four cody, you will love the SD&C mate. One of my favourites is that.

The three new ones I tried yesterday were really nice - definitely keepers for me.

Last night I needed to top up my Jamaican Ginger into an Evod, and needed to use some from the new 30ml bottle. It tasted odd ..a bit like dirty or burnt oil. I assumed it was the new Evod, so drained it out and soaked it in mild warm water/detergent.
I got another Evod -same! I tried it in a previously used Evod - same, tried a new CE5 - same. Couldn't all have a problem!
So, I then turned to putting a bit of two of the other new ones into small clearomisers ready to try today.
It was as that point that I noticed the label on all the new 10ml and three 30ml bottles: 35PG/65VG! I'd asked for 100% VG (apart from flavouring). Now if that would make the Jamaican Ginger taste so different I don't know - sort of doubt it, and not like I'd not tasted PG before. I'd only ever used the Jamaican Ginger in a small clearomiser on a smaller battery before.
I've put some of that Jamaican Ginger in a Vision Nano clearomiser on an eSmart battery today and it's tasting a lot better most of the time ....still a hint of the dirty/oily flavour now and then but not much. Odd!

So, I tried the other two I'd left ready this morning: Orange Custard Creams & Confusion, and they don't taste brilliant at this stage - not awful like the other Jamaican, but more like 'not as I'd expect' (Orange Custard Creams), or very little taste of anything (Confusion)!
The Orange Custard Creams has a hint of orange icing and biscuits, but the orange part isn't right yet. The confusion just gave me a very light hint of creamy caramel, but not even a definite taste yet.
Perhaps they need steeping though.
I went on to try the last new one- Spottedick: has a hint of dried fruit and suet pudding, but not enough to form an opinion ..again, I'll leave it a week.

Didn't expect that because the first order with three 10mls was excellent from the start, and the three I tried yesterday from this new order were great too.
Still, not all flavours will behave the same. I'll try those three again next week and tell you if they improved!
Seeing they're partly PG though, they could get to be more of a problem for me: eczema getting more visible on my face after yesterday & today for a start. I've sent an email to CV.

I've got three Vapology ones to try, but sniffing them, think they do need to steep for a while. The Black Forest so far just smells strongly of cherry, Very Berry Cool has a fairly weak smell at present, and the Cappuccino smells nice so I'd tried a little bit - not bad, but at this stage, prefer the two from CV.

It`s a shame they cocked up with the pg trish and i hope they send you replacements. Thinking about the odd tastes from the 30 ml bottles, it could be that the 10 ml bottles take less steeping time just because of the amount. It is only a theory, but a real good steep will sort it out, i am pretty sure about that.

 

[terry w]

30ml of the spotted d.ck and custard
10ml each of ABC, mint choc vapeto & Jamaican Ginger.

Should keep my dessert cravings in check for a while

The three new ones I tried yesterday were really nice - definitely keepers for me.

Last night I needed to top up my Jamaican Ginger into an Evod, and needed to use some from the new 30ml bottle. It tasted odd ..a bit like dirty or burnt oil. I assumed it was the new Evod, so drained it out and soaked it in mild warm water/detergent.
I got another Evod -same! I tried it in a previously used Evod - same, tried a new CE5 - same. Couldn't all have a problem!
So, I then turned to putting a bit of two of the other new ones into small clearomisers ready to try today.
It was as that point that I noticed the label on all the new 10ml and three 30ml bottles: 35PG/65VG! I'd asked for 100% VG (apart from flavouring). Now if that would make the Jamaican Ginger taste so different I don't know - sort of doubt it, and not like I'd not tasted PG before. I'd only ever used the Jamaican Ginger in a small clearomiser on a smaller battery before.
I've put some of that Jamaican Ginger in a Vision Nano clearomiser on an eSmart battery today and it's tasting a lot better most of the time ....still a hint of the dirty/oily flavour now and then but not much. Odd!

So, I tried the other two I'd left ready this morning: Orange Custard Creams & Confusion, and they don't taste brilliant at this stage - not awful like the other Jamaican, but more like 'not as I'd expect' (Orange Custard Creams), or very little taste of anything (Confusion)!
The Orange Custard Creams has a hint of orange icing and biscuits, but the orange part isn't right yet. The confusion just gave me a very light hint of creamy caramel, but not even a definite taste yet.
Perhaps they need steeping though.
I went on to try the last new one- Spottedick: has a hint of dried fruit and suet pudding, but not enough to form an opinion ..again, I'll leave it a week.

Didn't expect that because the first order with three 10mls was excellent from the start, and the three I tried yesterday from this new order were great too.
Still, not all flavours will behave the same. I'll try those three again next week and tell you if they improved!
Seeing they're partly PG though, they could get to be more of a problem for me: eczema getting more visible on my face after yesterday & today for a start. I've sent an email to CV.

I've got three Vapology ones to try, but sniffing them, think they do need to steep for a while. The Black Forest so far just smells strongly of cherry, Very Berry Cool has a fairly weak smell at present, and the Cappuccino smells nice so I'd tried a little bit - not bad, but at this stage, prefer the two from CV.

Well I've not really done much today, just sorted out Cody's Kayfun, it's on it's way back to you now mate

Plus, I had a play with my new Kayfun from FT. Gave it a good clean, put one of my new coloured tank sections on it - the red one (although it looks a bit pink to be honest). Then I decided to go for the smallest possible coil ever. Used the smallest diameter needle I have, it's less than a 1mm diameter. It took me longer to get the cotton through it, than it did to build and mount the coil. To be honest, I wasn't sure if it would be too small, it's more of a micro-nano coil
Filled up with some of the Key Lime from Cody (I've already used the juice I got from Terry). The coil came out at 1.4 ohms, about 14 wraps. It's really long, but tiny in diameter. But this thing is a real fog maker. Excellent flavour too, but not as harsh on the throat as my dual nano coils. It's a real juice burner though, I'm probably using 1/2ml every draw No leaks so far from the Kayfun, despite the fact that there's no airflow screw in it, but the draw is lovely and airy. I'm really impressed so far

Oh i bet cody is dead exited now

You certainly can tell when a coil is gunked up, i have been vaping the last of the hawaiian pud tonight (just about 2 ml left) anyway i could tell i was going to have to de-dunk the coil, but tried hanging on till i finished the tank.

No way LOL-it started tasting bloody rank. So one de-gunked coil and fresh wick later, and it is back to yumminess.

 

[trouble1000]

Terry - leave those baffles alone

LOL yeah mate, TBH with you i am quite happy with the sound of them since i drilled them out.

Yep you don't want to get an ASBO mate I did a bit of checking on-line today, about the noise rules. Apparently there are rules, but nobody seems to know exactly what they are

Out of them four cody, you will love the SD&C mate. One of my favourites is that.

It`s a shame they cocked up with the pg trish and i hope they send you replacements. Thinking about the odd tastes from the 30 ml bottles, it could be that the 10 ml bottles take less steeping time just because of the amount. It is only a theory, but a real good steep will sort it out, i am pretty sure about that.

I agree with Terry (for once) Cody The SPD & C is lovely, my good friend Terry sent me some, it's a great vape mate.

Another thing you can try Trisha, is called seed steeping. If you keep a small amount of the old juice and add it to the new bottle when it arrives, it speeds up the steeping process quite a bit. I've no idea how it works, but it does, cos I've done it myself

Oh i bet cody is dead exited now

You certainly can tell when a coil is gunked up, i have been vaping the last of the hawaiian pud tonight (just about 2 ml left) anyway i could tell i was going to have to de-dunk the coil, but tried hanging on till i finished the tank.

No way LOL-it started tasting bloody rank. So one de-gunked coil and fresh wick later, and it is back to yumminess.

I've done the same myself Terry. You think, just half a ml to go, but nope, the coil has other ideas

Well I've nearly gone through a full tank with this new micro-nano coiled Kayfun. I've not been vaping it exclusively either. This thing really does eat the juice

 

[terry w]

Yep you don't want to get an ASBO mate I did a bit of checking on-line today, about the noise rules. Apparently there are rules, but nobody seems to know exactly what they are


I agree with Terry (for once) Cody The SPD & C is lovely, my good friend Terry sent me some, it's a great vape mate.

Another thing you can try Trisha, is called seed steeping. If you keep a small amount of the old juice and add it to the new bottle when it arrives, it speeds up the steeping process quite a bit. I've no idea how it works, but it does, cos I've done it myself



I've done the same myself Terry. You think, just half a ml to go, but nope, the coil has other ideas

Well I've nearly gone through a full tank with this new micro-nano coiled Kayfun. I've not been vaping it exclusively either. This thing really does eat the juice

yeah i think these days Ian it is all about emmisions, but when you mot a bike thats one thing they don`t check. It is bleeding regulations what make the manufacturers make exhausts so quiet. Well that is what i have read anyway.

I may have a go at doing one of them micro nano nano coils one of thes days.

 

[trouble1000]

yeah i think these days Ian it is all about emmisions, but when you mot a bike thats one thing they don`t check. It is bleeding regulations what make the manufacturers make exhausts so quiet. Well that is what i have read anyway.

I may have a go at doing one of them micro nano nano coils one of thes days.

Reminds me of one of my really fast motors, think I told you about it earlier in the thread. My old Nissan Silvia Turbo, I'd done that much work to it, the emissions were sky high. So at MOT time, I had to turn the mixture down to get a pass. Leave the MOT place, drive round the corner, pop the bonnet, screwdriver out and turn the mixture back up again for full power

Out of all the new coils I've done, the only one I wouldn't do again is the Dragon Nano coil, I get occasional feeding issues with it. But these nano coils are superb mate. I'm getting sub-ohm performance from 1.4 ohm coils, but still getting great flavour. Best of both worlds mate

 

[terry w]

Reminds me of one of my really fast motors, think I told you about it earlier in the thread. My old Nissan Silvia Turbo, I'd done that much work to it, the emissions were sky high. So at MOT time, I had to turn the mixture down to get a pass. Leave the MOT place, drive round the corner, pop the bonnet, screwdriver out and turn the mixture back up again for full power

Out of all the new coils I've done, the only one I wouldn't do again is the Dragon Nano coil, I get occasional feeding issues with it. But these nano coils are superb mate. I'm getting sub-ohm performance from 1.4 ohm coils, but still getting great flavour. Best of both worlds mate

Well you have convinced me there Ian, i dunno when it will be but i am definitely going to give that a go. Do you reckon about 10 wraps around a syringe needle would do it ?/

 

[Pictor]

Trisha - have you ever thought about getting into DIY mixing. You can buy the nic solution as a PG or a VG base. Buy some extra VG to dilute it to the right strength. Then it will only be your flavourings that contain PG. If you use 10% flavouring in a mix, you'll basically have a 10PG/90VG mix - might help with the issues with your sensitivity to PG. When I mix I use AG instead of VG, it's a mixture of VG with distilled water - as VG tends to be quite thick, the distilled water makes it easier to work with. Plus if you buy highly concentrated flavourings like "Inawera" you only need 2-5% flavouring in a mix, so this will lower the PG amount even more. A lot of people think DIY is complicated, but to be honest it's pretty easy. The hardest part is getting the right amount of flavour in a mix.

Thanks Ian - A practical notion, and I know a lot of you do a degree of DIY, but to be honest, it's not something that appeals to me.
Anyway, my work needs a lot of concentration, and working at home, I not only get plenty of interruptions and distractions, I tend to work long/late hours, and every day mostly. I neglect a lot of things I should do already.
Had a bit of a block on concentration too ...perhaps too distracted with the whole stopping smoking and finding this 'something better'
It's funny - when I went out to work, I had far more spare time!
I'd never heard of 'AG' before! What do those initials stand for?
I do find though that most of my VG liquids fill clearomisers better than others, so perhaps the people who make those when I order VG do add a bit of distilled water?

It`s a shame they cocked up with the pg trish and i hope they send you replacements. Thinking about the odd tastes from the 30 ml bottles, it could be that the 10 ml bottles take less steeping time just because of the amount. It is only a theory, but a real good steep will sort it out, i am pretty sure about that.

Thanks Terry - I hope you're right about the 30ml bottles needing more steeping. Perhaps I should try a bit of the 2x30ml coffee ones to see if they taste horrible too. I may do that later!
I have three new small clearomisers with Orange Custard Creams, Spottedick & Hawaiian (Hawaiian from those I tried yesterday) - the Orange Custard Creams tastes awful too and that is from a 10ml bottle.
The Hawaiian tasted nice right away, and the small amount of Spottedick is starting to taste 'fuller' already, so it's just the Orange Custard Creams from those three. It has a nasty taste like the smell of hot grilled oily fish dripped onto a hot surface & burning (If you ever smelled that!)
The Confusion is giving me a bad taste too - just tried it again. With all of them, they start off pretty much OK and after 2-3 draws, once they start getting heat to them, taste dreadful - again, in various types of clearomisers.

I'm wondering could it be a bad batch of something that got used in a couple of them - is that likely/possible?
I didn't mention the bad taste to them yet - thought I'd try and make sure it was nothing I'm using, but assortments of three different types & sizes of batteries and clearomisers give the same. I haven't heard back regarding the PG/VG mix error.

I've run out of 'nice' VG Jamaican Ginger now - thinking I'll order a 10ml bottle to at least get some soon! Better try those coffee ones first.

On a very positive note - love that Strawberry Vapetto I got yesterday - not overly 'strawberryish' ....just enough! Definitely I'll need more of that plus the Hawaiian & Apple Pie

 

[Pictor]

Another thing you can try Trisha, is called seed steeping. If you keep a small amount of the old juice and add it to the new bottle when it arrives, it speeds up the steeping process quite a bit. I've no idea how it works, but it does, cos I've done it myself

I only have a very tiny bit in the bottom of the bottle ...around 3-4mm. Still, better than nothing. I'll keep it

 

[trouble1000]

Well you have convinced me there Ian, i dunno when it will be but i am definitely going to give that a go. Do you reckon about 10 wraps around a syringe needle would do it ?/

Yep should do it mate. When I do a micro it's normally 7-8 wraps, a nano 9-10 wraps and for my new micro-nano about 13 wraps. So 10 wraps should give you around 1.5-1.8 ohms, depending on the diameter of the needle. Must admit using a syringe needle is pretty easy, you can hold the end of the wire up against the plastic end of the syringe and trap it under your thumb. Then do 1 extra wrap and unwind the wrap at the plastic tip end. Makes your coil more uniform and means it needs less squeezing when you come to torch it.

Well I'm just waiting for my last 3 reviews to go through on FT now, then I'll have over 10 rebate points, so I can order some Nemesis mods. I think I'm going for the brass version, plus the black one in 18650, then the coloured tubes in red and blue. That way I can swap and change colour combos. Think I'll get some of the switch magnets too.

 

[trouble1000]

Thanks Ian - A practical notion, and I know a lot of you do a degree of DIY, but to be honest, it's not something that appeals to me.
Anyway, my work needs a lot of concentration, and working at home, I not only get plenty of interruptions and distractions, I tend to work long/late hours, and every day mostly. I neglect a lot of things I should do already.
Had a bit of a block on concentration too ...perhaps too distracted with the whole stopping smoking and finding this 'something better'
It's funny - when I went out to work, I had far more spare time!
I'd never heard of 'AG' before! What do those initials stand for?
I do find though that most of my VG liquids fill clearomisers better than others, so perhaps the people who make those when I order VG do add a bit of distilled water?

DIY isn't for everyone. I know people on here that have been vaping for years, they will build their own mods from scratch, but don't want to try DIY. I think, for me, I just enjoy creating new flavours - I'm a bit of a mad scientist

VG is vegetable glycerine and AG is aqueous glycerine - basically just VG thinned out with some distilled water. Standard VG is quite thick, almost a little like syrup, so it's harder to suck up into the syringe when mixing. You're probably right about some of the suppliers using AG, to be honest, it's a lot easier to work with.

I only have a very tiny bit in the bottom of the bottle ...around 3-4mm. Still, better than nothing. I'll keep it

You could even just use 1/2 ml of juice to seed steep. I honestly don't know why it works, but it does. Must be some sort of chemical reaction. But when I mix a DIY juice that I like, I always do a seed steep when I make up a fresh batch. It can cut the steeping time down by a couple of days or more.

 

[terry w]

Thanks Ian - A practical notion, and I know a lot of you do a degree of DIY, but to be honest, it's not something that appeals to me.
Anyway, my work needs a lot of concentration, and working at home, I not only get plenty of interruptions and distractions, I tend to work long/late hours, and every day mostly. I neglect a lot of things I should do already.
Had a bit of a block on concentration too ...perhaps too distracted with the whole stopping smoking and finding this 'something better'
It's funny - when I went out to work, I had far more spare time!
I'd never heard of 'AG' before! What do those initials stand for?
I do find though that most of my VG liquids fill clearomisers better than others, so perhaps the people who make those when I order VG do add a bit of distilled water?



Thanks Terry - I hope you're right about the 30ml bottles needing more steeping. Perhaps I should try a bit of the 2x30ml coffee ones to see if they taste horrible too. I may do that later!
I have three new small clearomisers with Orange Custard Creams, Spottedick & Hawaiian (Hawaiian from those I tried yesterday) - the Orange Custard Creams tastes awful too and that is from a 10ml bottle.
The Hawaiian tasted nice right away, and the small amount of Spottedick is starting to taste 'fuller' already, so it's just the Orange Custard Creams from those three. It has a nasty taste like the smell of hot grilled oily fish dripped onto a hot surface & burning (If you ever smelled that!)
The Confusion is giving me a bad taste too - just tried it again. With all of them, they start off pretty much OK and after 2-3 draws, once they start getting heat to them, taste dreadful - again, in various types of clearomisers.

I'm wondering could it be a bad batch of something that got used in a couple of them - is that likely/possible?
I didn't mention the bad taste to them yet - thought I'd try and make sure it was nothing I'm using, but assortments of three different types & sizes of batteries and clearomisers give the same. I haven't heard back regarding the PG/VG mix error.

I've run out of 'nice' VG Jamaican Ginger now - thinking I'll order a 10ml bottle to at least get some soon! Better try those coffee ones first.

On a very positive note - love that Strawberry Vapetto I got yesterday - not overly 'strawberryish' ....just enough! Definitely I'll need more of that plus the Hawaiian & Apple Pie

I can honestly sat trish that i have never smelt anything like oily fish burning on a hot surface (unless the wife is cooking) Seriously though, put them away for a week or more, and forget about them.

I remember when i first started vaping, then fell off the wagon and started smoking again. I put the juice away for around 12 months, and when i started vaping again "this time" I tried the liquid-a tobacco, and it was stupendous absolutely full on flavour. I have never smoked a cig since.

Just wish i could remember where i bought it from. So what i am saying trish is don`t despair, stick em away and vape the good ones you have while you wait.

 

[terry w]

Yep should do it mate. When I do a micro it's normally 7-8 wraps, a nano 9-10 wraps and for my new micro-nano about 13 wraps. So 10 wraps should give you around 1.5-1.8 ohms, depending on the diameter of the needle. Must admit using a syringe needle is pretty easy, you can hold the end of the wire up against the plastic end of the syringe and trap it under your thumb. Then do 1 extra wrap and unwind the wrap at the plastic tip end. Makes your coil more uniform and means it needs less squeezing when you come to torch it.

Well I'm just waiting for my last 3 reviews to go through on FT now, then I'll have over 10 rebate points, so I can order some Nemesis mods. I think I'm going for the brass version, plus the black one in 18650, then the coloured tubes in red and blue. That way I can swap and change colour combos. Think I'll get some of the switch magnets too.

Ian, i have got a brass nemmy tube here if you want it mate, i much prefer the black anodized one so if you want it you are welcome to it .

 

[Danny55]

Thanks for the info dan, I may well try them out next time i order.

No worries terry. I think everyone has to try Scopes, it completely lives up to the hype it's been getting.

30ml of the spotted d.ck and custard
10ml each of ABC, mint choc vapeto & Jamaican Ginger.

Should keep my dessert cravings in check for a while

I've not tried the vapeto, but jamaican ginger and SD&C are good. Didn't like ABC personally.

Orange Custard Creams don't taste brilliant at this stage - not awful like the other Jamaican, but more like 'not as I'd expect' (Orange Custard Creams)
The Orange Custard Creams has a hint of orange icing and biscuits, but the orange part isn't right yet.

I went on to try the last new one- Spottedick: has a hint of dried fruit and suet pudding, but not enough to form an opinion ..again, I'll leave it a week.

Thanks for letting us know about the orange custard cream Pictor, and sorry to hear of your PG/VG woes! Will be interested to know how it matures and changes.

Dan - Nice reviews mate. The apple pie and custard sounds really tempting

You'll love it trouble, I'm sure!

I bought 3 x 5ml bottles of Triphammer today of jam roly poly and custard, creme egg and cookie dough. All 8mg nic which come VG heavy about 60/70%. They'll need plenty of steeping before I can try them. Will be interesting to see if I like them or not. So far, tiger stripe is the only one I've had extensive experience of, and though it's quite decent, I wouldn't have bought it had I not been given a few mls of it from a friend.

Vaping the last of my smokerainbow Spottedick sample which is 65PG/35VG. Am extremely tempted to buy a bottle, though not sure if I should buy in VG heavy or PG heavy like the sample I have, as I'm trying to figure out if it's PG or VG that gives me a bitter taste in my throat or perhaps it's just nicotine, or perhaps it's just general drying in my mouth, even though I'm drinking several pints of water.
My throat/back of mouth continually has a taste like someone coated it with nail varnish remover since vaping. Drinking lots of water helps though. But it definitely clouds the flavour on the inhale and exhale.

Guess I'd lose flavour with VG heavy? Would any of you say the fruit in the Spottedick has a spicy note to it? I like it but don't remember that in the real pudding. Still not sure what I'm actually tasting. Can taste vanilla though not sure it's custard exactly but it's nice and sweet, and not sure if I'm tasting suet sponge or not. I might be but my brain isn't saying "oh yeah, there's the sponge!" But it is quite moreish

 

[trouble1000]

Ian, i have got a brass nemmy tube here if you want it mate, i much prefer the black anodized one so if you want it you are welcome to it .

Thanks mate that's a kind offer. But to be honest, I've worked out that I'll need the full brass nemmy mod, so that I can use the switch and top cap plus one of the smaller tubes to add to the coloured tubes. The coloured tubes are for 18500 batts, but I want to use 18650's instead. But I'll be getting the black one in 18650 size. I've read a couple of reviews that say the coloured tubes won't fit on some of the nemmy switches, so I'll be ordering the one that FT says is compatible with the coloured tubes - hope that makes sense

I'll have to go now anyway, back in work tomorrow. Night all.

 

[Pictor]

I can honestly sat trish that i have never smelt anything like oily fish burning on a hot surface (unless the wife is cooking) Seriously though, put them away for a week or more, and forget about them.

When I was small, my Grandparents had one of those 'pot belly' stoves in their kitchen, and they would sometimes get whole smoked herring and lay them on the flat hot metal top of that stove ....they smelled awful while cooking because the fat would get onto that hot metal and burn ...phew! That's what taste I've got with the Orange Custard Creams.
The other two give me a dirty/oily hot taste.

I remember when i first started vaping, then fell off the wagon and started smoking again. I put the juice away for around 12 months, and when i started vaping again "this time" I tried the liquid-a tobacco, and it was stupendous absolutely full on flavour. I have never smoked a cig since.

Just wish i could remember where i bought it from. So what i am saying trish is don`t despair, stick em away and vape the good ones you have while you wait.

I could do that yes. Still don't get why just a few out of all of them should give me that nasty taste. The Jamaican Ginger 30ml bottle is a huge disappointment for me because I really love that!
Never mind, there's worse things happen!

I haven't had a cigarette since the day I had the last 'one' after spending just a few weeks cutting back bit by bit each day until I was down to a choice of down to one or carry on with 'just a few'. I'd hate to go back-over again now!
I'd smoked, albeit in a small way in the early few years, since I was 15. All that time and 35 per day in the past two years didn't even cross my mind as something I could stop, yet I did, and initially by accident!
I don't reckon lightning often strikes twice in the same place, so although a distraction, I persevere with resolving these obstacles.

 

[terry w]

No worries terry. I think everyone has to try Scopes, it completely lives up to the hype it's been getting.




I've not tried the vapeto, but jamaican ginger and SD&C are good. Didn't like ABC personally.




Thanks for letting us know about the orange custard cream Pictor, and sorry to hear of your PG/VG woes! Will be interested to know how it matures and changes.




You'll love it trouble, I'm sure!

I bought 3 x 5ml bottles of Triphammer today of jam roly poly and custard, creme egg and cookie dough. All 8mg nic which come VG heavy about 60/70%. They'll need plenty of steeping before I can try them. Will be interesting to see if I like them or not. So far, tiger stripe is the only one I've had extensive experience of, and though it's quite decent, I wouldn't have bought it had I not been given a few mls of it from a friend.

Vaping the last of my smokerainbow Spottedick sample which is 65PG/35VG. Am extremely tempted to buy a bottle, though not sure if I should buy in VG heavy or PG heavy like the sample I have, as I'm trying to figure out if it's PG or VG that gives me a bitter taste in my throat or perhaps it's just nicotine, or perhaps it's just general drying in my mouth, even though I'm drinking several pints of water.
My throat/back of mouth continually has a taste like someone coated it with nail varnish remover since vaping. Drinking lots of water helps though. But it definitely clouds the flavour on the inhale and exhale.

Guess I'd lose flavour with VG heavy? Would any of you say the fruit in the Spottedick has a spicy note to it? I like it but don't remember that in the real pudding. Still not sure what I'm actually tasting. Can taste vanilla though not sure it's custard exactly but it's nice and sweet, and not sure if I'm tasting suet sponge or not. I might be but my brain isn't saying "oh yeah, there's the sponge!" But it is quite moreish

To me at least, the SD&C from cv doesn`t taste spicey. but i do get the suet pudding and currants though not a lot of custard. But that is just me dan, and if i am totaly honest i cannot find a bad word regarding this juice I LOVE IT.

 

[terry w]

When I was small, my Grandparents had one of those 'pot belly' stoves in their kitchen, and they would sometimes get whole smoked herring and lay them on the flat hot metal top of that stove ....they smelled awful while cooking because the fat would get onto that hot metal and burn ...phew! That's what taste I've got with the Orange Custard Creams.
The other two give me a dirty/oily hot taste.



I could do that yes. Still don't get why just a few out of all of them should give me that nasty taste. The Jamaican Ginger 30ml bottle is a huge disappointment for me because I really love that!
Never mind, there's worse things happen!

I haven't had a cigarette since the day I had the last 'one' after spending just a few weeks cutting back bit by bit each day until I was down to a choice of down to one or carry on with 'just a few'. I'd hate to go back-over again now!
I'd smoked, albeit in a small way in the early few years, since I was 15. All that time and 35 per day in the past two years didn't even cross my mind as something I could stop, yet I did, and initially by accident!
I don't reckon lightning often strikes twice in the same place, so although a distraction, I persevere with resolving these obstacles.

As i said trish, it is amazing what a real good steep can do for some juices. Try them again in a couple of weeks, and you may well be surprised at the difference.

 

[Pictor]

Thanks for letting us know about the orange custard cream Pictor, and sorry to hear of your PG/VG woes! Will be interested to know how it matures and changes.

I'll keep re-visiting it to see if it changes.

Vaping the last of my smokerainbow Spottedick sample which is 65PG/35VG. Am extremely tempted to buy a bottle, though not sure if I should buy in VG heavy or PG heavy like the sample I have, as I'm trying to figure out if it's PG or VG that gives me a bitter taste in my throat or perhaps it's just nicotine, or perhaps it's just general drying in my mouth, even though I'm drinking several pints of water.
My throat/back of mouth continually has a taste like someone coated it with nail varnish remover since vaping. Drinking lots of water helps though. But it definitely clouds the flavour on the inhale and exhale.

Guess I'd lose flavour with VG heavy? Would any of you say the fruit in the Spottedick has a spicy note to it? I like it but don't remember that in the real pudding. Still not sure what I'm actually tasting. Can taste vanilla though not sure it's custard exactly but it's nice and sweet, and not sure if I'm tasting suet sponge or not. I might be but my brain isn't saying "oh yeah, there's the sponge!" But it is quite moreish

I've been using a few with PG in them this past few days: some that I knew about and some I didn't until a whole day later.
I had to stop using PG 6 weeks in when I realised that all the negative effects I was getting were down to the PG: sore mouth, dry skin, painful throat, upset tum, thirst, nasty tasting mouth & teeth dirty, tightness in chest followed by a few bad attacks of not being able to breathe! Within 10-14 days of changing to VG I was rid of all those problems
It started with the eczema appearing on my face, and the sore mouth and so on followed gradually.
I'm sure that those with a sensitivity to PG will get varying degrees of various effects, so I'm not saying you'll get all of those, but having had a few days of using some PG again, I've already got the eczema, sore mouth & throat and a yukky taste in my mouth at times and an upset tum again.
I didn't notice a difference in taste when I changed over, but they were completely different brands as I'd been using cartridges before that. If anything, I got more taste, but I reckon cartridges aren't that heavy on flavour.

I'm using the Spottedick now and there's definitely spice in there ..perhaps nutmeg/cinnamon/hint of clove? with the dried fruits taste and suet pudding. The light group of spices seems predominant at the moment along with the fruit and pudding secondary, but that may change as it's new. What matters is, I like it even now, so if it gets even better, that's a bonus. As you say 'moreish' whatever it is I can taste!