Carl, you mean using an Evod will need an adaptor. The Protanks are standard 510 mate
Anyone here used fasttech.
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Carl, you mean using an Evod will need an adaptor. The Protanks are standard 510 mate
Carl, you mean using an Evod will need an adaptor. The Protanks are standard 510 mate
Damn, I knew there was a difference but got them the wrong way round
Still plenty to learn
Damn, I knew there was a difference but got them the wrong way round
Still plenty to learn
Not to worry Carl. Confession time, when I first got an Evod, I went into the shop and asked for an Ego atty - we've all done it mate
we all learn by our mistakes but I was very very lucky I came straight on here and Terry and Ian sorted me out I was down on my knees and don't mind admitting it and these two fine gents sorted me out so as you can see I was taught from the masters stay with them and you wont go far wrong and if you find anything you fancy on fasttech ask on here if its any good. I do I don't make many mistakes this way and I don't waste much cash as Terry and Ian has wasted all of theres instead
Not like I'm going to do anything complex!
Yes, FastTech were fine in the end.
Ah, so, glasshopper!One day the student may become the master
I'll have to practice doing that ..will likely choke myself trying though!I vape everywhere and anywhere. Vape loud and vape proud
As Bob said double inhale - that's what I do in the Cinema and on the plane. Just take a reasonable draw and inhale deep into the lungs, wait a second or two and inhale again, so you completely fill your lungs. Hold this for a few seconds and exhale slowly. I can do this and produce no vapour at all. Or vape as normal and either blow it down your baggy jumper or into a hot cup of coffee
Guess I'm lucky, I see loads of people vaping. Still get the odd idiot that gives the fake cough, sometimes I'll offer them a try at my Vmod, cos their smokers cough sounds really bad, or I'll blow out an even bigger cloud to give them something else to "cough" at
I can honestly say, I've never yet encountered anyone else using e-cigs!
But to me, it doesn't look like there's a thread to screw the tank onto like on a cylindrical battery?
Is that one from FT likely to be an OK item? Price is certainly a lot better than the clone ones here.
So they were the pioneers!I do I don't make many mistakes this way and I don't waste much cash as Terry and Ian has wasted all of theres instead
we all learn by our mistakes but I was very very lucky I came straight on here and Terry and Ian sorted me out I was down on my knees and don't mind admitting it and these two fine gents sorted me out so as you can see I was taught from the masters stay with them and you wont go far wrong and if you find anything you fancy on fasttech ask on here if its any good. I do I don't make many mistakes this way and I don't waste much cash as Terry and Ian has wasted all of theres instead
Thanks for the vote of confidence Ron, we were more than happy to help you out mate
I don't waste money by the way, I just buy things to fill up space in my vaping cupboard - damn I've just found another gap, better head over to FT immediately
The good thing about vaping is, once you outgrow something (or you find it doesn't really work for you), there's always someone else that you can pass it on to, or sell it on
Not like I'm going to do anything complex!
Yes, FastTech were fine in the end.
Ah, so, glasshopper!
I'll have to practice doing that ..will likely choke myself trying though!
I can honestly say, I've never yet encountered anyone else using e-cigs!
But to me, it doesn't look like there's a thread to screw the tank onto like on a cylindrical battery?
Is that one from FT likely to be an OK item? Price is certainly a lot better than the clone ones here.
So they were the pioneers!
Not grasshopper then
Really is easy to stealth with the double inhale. I used to do that when I smoked if I had a cough, just trying to keep the phlegm down
With the Hana mod the connector is recessed into the mod. As long as there's a small gap for airflow to get in around the base of your Protank when it's screwed into the Mod, there shouldn't be a problem. With a cylindrical battery, you have the thread inside the end of the battery, so just think of the Hana mod like a cylindrical battery encased inside a box - still does the same thing
Evods won't fit on the Hana mod without an adaptor, but Protanks and Unitanks will be fine. A Kayfun style atty would be better still as it doesn't draw air in through the bottom of the 510 connection. The air is drawn in through the side of the atty instead.
Pioneers, well I do live in Rochdale, home of the Co-operative society pioneers
Forgot to mention, the FT one has the clone DNA30 chip. I've not heard of any major problems with it, so it is a good price for the mod.
Always good to have someone who knows the answers to most of the questionsThanks for the vote of confidence Ron, we were more than happy to help you out mate
Aw! that was my best Shaolin Monk accent!Not grasshopper then
....were you around in the days of the TV series? 
I recall that pantomime! Could guarantee someone would nag at me if I coughed!Really is easy to stealth with the double inhale. I used to do that when I smoked if I had a cough, just trying to keep the phlegm down
That makes sense - thanks for explaining!With the Hana mod the connector is recessed into the mod. As long as there's a small gap for airflow to get in around the base of your Protank when it's screwed into the Mod, there shouldn't be a problem. With a cylindrical battery, you have the thread inside the end of the battery, so just think of the Hana mod like a cylindrical battery encased inside a box - still does the same thing
I thought it looked pretty good for the price, but know very little about these things. I do like the MVP's I have, but heck, they have a lovely blue one of those Hana type! ...and I do have a $10 credit!
Which is exactly what happened with me when they first appeared on the market, I got the rechargeable ones with prefilled cartos, don't think you could refill them back then, absolute rubbish, didn't do anything for me, and I went back to smoking, but then in January I tried again with an eGo and by the end of February was ... free, and still am
just wish I could get Granny (my SO) to quit as well.
Thought you were a lot younger than me, I was 9 when I started back in 1960 and my motto was always "I have given up giving up", but eGos changed all that for the better.
Agree, I have found I can now go a lot longer without a puff (vape) than I ever could when using analogs, like you i would get very twitchy, dreaded going to non-smoking mates houses, and having to go out in the garden for a puff every hour or so.
One of the things about City life, is that there are more people doing it, but it also means that there are more people that are less tolerant, but seeing as they are listening to the ignorance that is being spouted I couldn't give a damn when I'm out in the open
Good bit of info, I haven't actually used my FT Chi Yous yet, only just got round to using the Nemmys (I like my vv/vw ones so much)
My dremmel clone arrived today, quite impressed with it. The kit I ordered was supposed to have 88 pieces, the one I received had 192 - that's a bonus
A link to where you bought it, please...
I vape everywhere and anywhere. Vape loud and vape proud
I won't vape in shops (unless it is a vape shop), or restaurants, I'm sure I can manage without a vape for the amount of time i'm in them. I do sometime in the open area of a Shopping Mall though.
As Bob said double inhale - that's what I do in the Cinema and on the plane. Just take a reasonable draw and inhale deep into the lungs, wait a second or two and inhale again, so you completely fill your lungs. Hold this for a few seconds and exhale slowly. I can do this and produce no vapour at all. Or vape as normal and either blow it down your baggy jumper or into a hot cup of coffee
Guess I'm lucky, I see loads of people vaping. Still get the odd idiot that gives the fake cough, sometimes I'll offer them a try at my Vmod, cos their smokers cough sounds really bad, or I'll blow out an even bigger cloud to give them something else to "cough" at
Do you really need a DNA30 Trish, they are really for sub-ohmers, and do any of the ones you already have take 18xxx batteries because if not then you will need a decent charger like the Nitecore i4 as well (get latter from Amazon as the FT ones cannot be trusted).
Damn, I knew there was a difference but got them the wrong way round
Still plenty to learn
Kanger's "Mini" Aerotank, Protanks and Unitanks have the eGo connector, that's where the confusion arises.
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I drive coaches up and down the country and I pull my drivers privacy curtain round and vape away on the motorways employer knows about it and said don't let customers see and if they smell it say they must have smelt sweets so I vape berry mix or pineapple on my coach and keep a packet of pineapple cubes in my pocket all is well and the tips are fantastic I drove a coach from Newcastle to cornwall last week and made over 170 pounds tips lovely for my vape fund and now that I am back at work I nearly have my mortgage up to date 1 more month and I will be there then I will be very happy 
Last year sometime, I saw that our supermarket had some 10Motives ones so I bought a disposable thinking it could be good to take anywhere I couldn't smoke, and to use before I went for my 6 monthly BP check. It sat in the pen section of my desk tidy, and last December, I had a problem with itchy sore yes. Husband had been complaining that my cigarettes seemed to have an awful smell lately, so after lunch one day, I thought I'd try the disposable if I could for just a few hours to see if it helped .......I didn't have more than a few cigarettes for the rest of that day, and by 2am as I was clearing up, I realised I'd smoked 1/3 less than my normal 35 per day. I repeated the exercise a few days later and found the same, so bought a few more of the same disposables.Which is exactly what happened with me when they first appeared on the market, I got the rechargeable ones with prefilled cartos, don't think you could refill them back then, absolute rubbish, didn't do anything for me, and I went back to smoking, but then in January I tried again with an eGo and by the end of February was ... free, and still am
By mid January, I was only smoking half my usual number so I thought I'd see if I could go lower, and when I got down to 10 per day decided to see just how far I could go. I got a couple of simple kits with batteries and 2.4mg cartridges, Made myself no promises, decided not to kick myself if I failed, and told no-one what I was doing. By 25th January, I'd only had two: one when I had my first cup of tea and one early evening ...and I made myself stand by an open door to smoke them too! 26th and 27th, I only had one: half morning, half evening. I decided that on the 28th I'd have no morning cigarette at all and used my e-cig instead. I haven't had a cigarette since.
Three weeks later, and cigarette free, I coughed a few times and my husband said tetchily that I really should stop smoking - I started laughing and it made him even crosser ...until I told him I hadn't had a cigarette for three weeks, and no-one had even noticed!
It was not long after that I found I get problems with PG (and the vanilla cartridges) so got a few eSmart batteries and clearomisers, bought some VG liquid at 1.8mg and was fine. I stepped it down a few more times until down to 0.6mg with no problem, and now use the larger batteries, tanks and MVP's.
Yes, I do get some breathing problems with certain flavours, and I'm gradually learning which to avoid.
I have to say, I found it easy, and if I can do it, anyone can because parting me from my cigarettes was akin to trying to steal my family or my dogs: I'd fight to the last!
Those little e-cigs were worth their weight in gold to me because quite simply, they work instead of a cigarette. I'd tried a few times to give up, but it seemed even thinking about not having a cigarette had me reaching for one! I would chew the gum and find myself smoking a cigarette!
I think I had my first cigarette at 15, but of course back then, I didn't have many ..certainly not one every day.
I'm 64 - young in outlook, and apparently I look younger than my years, but I married at 17, and had our first son a year later. Age most definitely is just a number.
I went to art college and was also being trained for the Covent Garden Opera. Having a home and young family though meant I needed to earn a wage, so I gave up on those things, only returning to art seriously in my late 30's. The year I was 40, I left work to be a professional artist and have never looked back
It has to be true that there is more than nicotine addictive in cigarettes to keep people wanting to light up another! That's why I find our government so hypocritical: they let the tobacco companies add all manner of noxious chemicals, yet gripe about e-cigs? Can they not see that?
We've been out to lunch twice in the past two months, both times out for 3 hours, yet I didn't use mine until back home. Yes, I was looking forward to doing so, but I wasn't particularly anxious a about it! When I smoked, I'd have been out in the garden of the restaurant having a cigarette!
People have very selective hearing/comprehension. The more good press there is the better!
Good point Bob - thanks for pointing that out. Based on those facts, no I don't need one!
Such a lovely metallic blue though!
That's a really sensible and mutually acceptable way to do it - I recently heard of a public service department that banned them from the premises. Why? one person sat at the front desk happily using an e-pipe! I had to admit, he was probably asking for trouble by doing that in his position especially. As a result, the more discreet or out of general view people in the building have lost their ability to use them.I drive coaches up and down the country and I pull my drivers privacy curtain round and vape away on the motorways employer knows about it and said don't let customers see and if they smell it say they must have smelt sweets so I vape berry mix or pineapple on my coach and keep a packet of pineapple cubes in my pocket all is well and the tips are fantastic I drove a coach from Newcastle to cornwall last week and made over 170 pounds tips lovely for my vape fund and now that I am back at work I nearly have my mortgage up to date 1 more month and I will be there then I will be very happy
I do think that some people are perhaps deliberately blasé about it - an e-pipe is not going to look much different from the real thing to a non smoker in particular, and a member of the public seeing a person in a responsible position using one is bound to get the wrong impression. The same would probably apply in many restaurants or similar places.
Certain 'indoor' places most definitely do need a degree of caution or common sense if we aren't to alienate the use of them completely.
Because I don't have a problem using the small e-cigs, I've been happy to find a company in the UK that produce pre-filled VG cartomizers/cartridges - mine has just arrived: a small trial kit with a battery, five cartridges and a USB charger for 9.99. It's there for when I'm out anywhere. I can easily use it, pop in a pocket or bag, even a purse, it won't leak, doesn't give off a whole lot of vapour and works perfectly. What's not to like
I spend most of my time here in my studio, so it's not like I'll be using it a lot anyway.
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I think I had my first cigarette at 15, but of course back then, I didn't have many ..certainly not one every day.
I'm 64 - young in outlook, and apparently I look younger than my years, but I married at 17, and had our first son a year later. Age most definitely is just a number.
I went to art college and was also being trained for the Covent Garden Opera. Having a home and young family though meant I needed to earn a wage, so I gave up on those things, only returning to art seriously in my late 30's. The year I was 40, I left work to be a professional artist and have never looked back
Shhh, you're not supposed to tell, my wife was 64 at the beginning of the month, she's 18 month my senior, but a lot of the time she looks 74, due to her health problems, got married about 6 years after you, and had our only son 15 months later. From what I am reading you were living down here then, wasn't the Art College down the road from me, it's quite famous.
Totally agree
Good point Bob - thanks for pointing that out. Based on those facts, no I don't need one!
Such a lovely metallic blue though!
My fav colour - I just got a Vision Spinner 2 in Metallic Blue - can't give all my money to FT.
Always good to have someone who knows the answers to most of the questions
Aw! that was my best Shaolin Monk accent!
I recall that pantomime! Could guarantee someone would nag at me if I coughed!
That makes sense - thanks for explaining!
I thought it looked pretty good for the price, but know very little about these things. I do like the MVP's I have, but heck, they have a lovely blue one of those Hana type! ...and I do have a $10 credit!
Wouldn't say I know all the answers, just 99% of them
Seriously though, it's mostly down to a LOT of research and the fact that I love tinkering - the answers soon appear Yep I do remember Kung Fu, David Carradine - great series used to love it
The Hana mod would be a huge upgrade for you Trisha, lots of functions to play with and a huge power output
Works great the chi-you trick Bob. I was ready for throwing mine, until I sussed it out.
This is the one they actually sent me Bob :
Multi purpose Rotary Tool and Engraver Set 219 Piece 230v | Rapid Online
Despite the joking earlier, I do vape considerately. But I will vape indoors where there are no bans, a lot of times people will come up and ask questions - so it's my chance to set the vaping record straight and maybe get a few new converts. Usually it's "you don't want to smoke those things, you don't know what's in the liquid". My response "well it's not smoking, there's nothing combustible in it and I make my own liquid, so I know exactly what's in it". Then they get curious and I baffle them with science - works every time
I drive coaches up and down the country and I pull my drivers privacy curtain round and vape away on the motorways employer knows about it and said don't let customers see and if they smell it say they must have smelt sweets so I vape berry mix or pineapple on my coach and keep a packet of pineapple cubes in my pocket all is well and the tips are fantastic I drove a coach from Newcastle to cornwall last week and made over 170 pounds tips lovely for my vape fund and now that I am back at work I nearly have my mortgage up to date 1 more month and I will be there then I will be very happy
Just wish all employers were the same Ron
It's a great feeling when you get up to date on all your bills again, you can breathe a sigh of relief when that happens.Last year sometime, I saw that our supermarket had some 10Motives ones so I bought a disposable thinking it could be good to take anywhere I couldn't smoke, and to use before I went for my 6 monthly BP check. It sat in the pen section of my desk tidy, and last December, I had a problem with itchy sore yes. Husband had been complaining that my cigarettes seemed to have an awful smell lately, so after lunch one day, I thought I'd try the disposable if I could for just a few hours to see if it helped .......I didn't have more than a few cigarettes for the rest of that day, and by 2am as I was clearing up, I realised I'd smoked 1/3 less than my normal 35 per day. I repeated the exercise a few days later and found the same, so bought a few more of the same disposables.
By mid January, I was only smoking half my usual number so I thought I'd see if I could go lower, and when I got down to 10 per day decided to see just how far I could go. I got a couple of simple kits with batteries and 2.4mg cartridges, Made myself no promises, decided not to kick myself if I failed, and told no-one what I was doing. By 25th January, I'd only had two: one when I had my first cup of tea and one early evening ...and I made myself stand by an open door to smoke them too! 26th and 27th, I only had one: half morning, half evening. I decided that on the 28th I'd have no morning cigarette at all and used my e-cig instead. I haven't had a cigarette since.
Three weeks later, and cigarette free, I coughed a few times and my husband said tetchily that I really should stop smoking - I started laughing and it made him even crosser ...until I told him I hadn't had a cigarette for three weeks, and no-one had even noticed!
It was not long after that I found I get problems with PG (and the vanilla cartridges) so got a few eSmart batteries and clearomisers, bought some VG liquid at 1.8mg and was fine. I stepped it down a few more times until down to 0.6mg with no problem, and now use the larger batteries, tanks and MVP's.
Yes, I do get some breathing problems with certain flavours, and I'm gradually learning which to avoid.
I have to say, I found it easy, and if I can do it, anyone can because parting me from my cigarettes was akin to trying to steal my family or my dogs: I'd fight to the last!
Those little e-cigs were worth their weight in gold to me because quite simply, they work instead of a cigarette. I'd tried a few times to give up, but it seemed even thinking about not having a cigarette had me reaching for one! I would chew the gum and find myself smoking a cigarette!
I think I had my first cigarette at 15, but of course back then, I didn't have many ..certainly not one every day.
I'm 64 - young in outlook, and apparently I look younger than my years, but I married at 17, and had our first son a year later. Age most definitely is just a number.
I went to art college and was also being trained for the Covent Garden Opera. Having a home and young family though meant I needed to earn a wage, so I gave up on those things, only returning to art seriously in my late 30's. The year I was 40, I left work to be a professional artist and have never looked back
It has to be true that there is more than nicotine addictive in cigarettes to keep people wanting to light up another! That's why I find our government so hypocritical: they let the tobacco companies add all manner of noxious chemicals, yet gripe about e-cigs? Can they not see that?
We've been out to lunch twice in the past two months, both times out for 3 hours, yet I didn't use mine until back home. Yes, I was looking forward to doing so, but I wasn't particularly anxious a about it! When I smoked, I'd have been out in the garden of the restaurant having a cigarette!
People have very selective hearing/comprehension. The more good press there is the better!
Good point Bob - thanks for pointing that out. Based on those facts, no I don't need one!
Such a lovely metallic blue though!
That's a really sensible and mutually acceptable way to do it - I recently heard of a public service department that banned them from the premises. Why? one person sat at the front desk happily using an e-pipe! I had to admit, he was probably asking for trouble by doing that in his position especially. As a result, the more discreet or out of general view people in the building have lost their ability to use them.
I do think that some people are perhaps deliberately blasé about it - an e-pipe is not going to look much different from the real thing to a non smoker in particular, and a member of the public seeing a person in a responsible position using one is bound to get the wrong impression. The same would probably apply in many restaurants or similar places.
Certain 'indoor' places most definitely do need a degree of caution or common sense if we aren't to alienate the use of them completely.
Because I don't have a problem using the small e-cigs, I've been happy to find a company in the UK that produce pre-filled VG cartomizers/cartridges - mine has just arrived: a small trial kit with a battery, five cartridges and a USB charger for 9.99. It's there for when I'm out anywhere. I can easily use it, pop in a pocket or bag, even a purse, it won't leak, doesn't give off a whole lot of vapour and works perfectly. What's not to like
I spend most of my time here in my studio, so it's not like I'll be using it a lot anyway.
Your story is pretty similar to mine Trisha, started smoking at 13. Tried an ego style battery with a CE4, just out of curiosity. After 3 weeks of cutting down on the cigs, got up one morning for work at 5am, had one cig left in the pack, smoked it and thought I'll see how long I can go just vaping today. That was the last smoke I've had
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I do get days when I look even older than I am, never mind my age. I sometimes work far too late and after some time, it starts to catch up. Not many people seem to understand that I can't just sit down and paint - it can take an hour just to get back into the flow of where I left off, or where I'm going next with something, but interruptions do happen, and more often than I'd like, so I end up working far too late. I always get up at 10am though, no matter what.
No, I wasn't in the south - my voice coaching began while I was still at high school, and it was by a lovely ex CG opera chap who had gone on to become choir master to HM Chapel Choir. He carried on teaching after retiring from that role and moving north to be with family.
The art college was a very good one though, but since leaving work I've learned far more working on my own and learning a lot from a dear colleague & mentor in Boston - he initially was an illustrator ..had a Ferrari by the age of 26! He became a sought after portrait painter and set up a small forum for serious artists.
The most wonderful art college I've seen are the schools of the Royal Academy. Had a good look when I had a painting accepted for the RA summer exhibition one year! The students who get to study there are very lucky - the place is steeped in art history!
Mine is white ..nice battery too!
I see Ian seems to think the Hana would be a good one for me ...we'll have to see!
I tend to like getting on with something rather than tinkering with it. One of the reasons I gave up on the piano and then the guitar ...too much theory and tinkering around before anything sounded like it shouldWouldn't say I know all the answers, just 99% of them
With paint, it may take many hours, but I place it here and there and gradually, something tangible emerges. I suppose I learn while I produce something rather than having to learn and then try and produce something.You do?The Hana mod would be a huge upgrade for you Trisha, lots of functions to play with and a huge power output
Sounds interesting What about what Bob says about sub ohm stuff (whatever) and odd battery chargers?
A couple of weeks ago, one of our sons said he thought the tobacco companies who have begun making e-cigs would start putting things in the liquid to keep people hooked on it.Despite the joking earlier, I do vape considerately. But I will vape indoors where there are no bans, a lot of times people will come up and ask questions - so it's my chance to set the vaping record straight and maybe get a few new converts. Usually it's "you don't want to smoke those things, you don't know what's in the liquid". My response "well it's not smoking, there's nothing combustible in it and I make my own liquid, so I know exactly what's in it". Then they get curious and I baffle them with science - works every time
As long as they don't buy up all the e cig & liquid suppliers I think we'll be safe
Certainly is! I remember some very lean times in the past!
I really was amazed, and because I told no-one what I was doing, it was great to wake up each day with this huge, wonderful secret! My only frustration is the bad reactions I get now and then, not the fact that I don't smoke!Your story is pretty similar to mine Trisha, started smoking at 13. Tried an ego style battery with a CE4, just out of curiosity. After 3 weeks of cutting down on the cigs, got up one morning for work at 5am, had one cig left in the pack, smoked it and thought I'll see how long I can go just vaping today. That was the last smoke I've had
Yep I do remember Kung Fu, David Carradine - great series used to love it
Those were the days my friend.....
The Hana mod would be a huge upgrade for you Trisha, lots of functions to play with and a huge power output
She's an eSmart girl, I think it would be too much for her
Thinking about it, a fibre washer might be better a lot of o-rings may be too thick, I've put Nemmy magnets in the Orochi aka Bellwether and the touch is so light now I can't stand it up without locking it, also had to put a washer under the button screw to increase the contact, there is also problems with the Firebox Squonker, there is no venting for the battery, there was a thread about it on AAEC, so I brought it to the attention of the company that sells them and they have confirmed it and are getting the makers to change the battery caps, spent an hour yesterday drilling some holes in my cap so I can carry on using it.
Ooohhhh Nice, looks a lot better than my pathetic tool, must have one - oh dear more money spent
Despite the joking earlier, I do vape considerately. But I will vape indoors where there are no bans, a lot of times people will come up and ask questions - so it's my chance to set the vaping record straight and maybe get a few new converts. Usually it's "you don't want to smoke those things, you don't know what's in the liquid". My response "well it's not smoking, there's nothing combustible in it and I make my own liquid, so I know exactly what's in it". Then they get curious and I baffle them with science - works every time
Know what you mean, nice to convert the ignorant though...
Your story is pretty similar to mine Trisha, started smoking at 13. Tried an ego style battery with a CE4, just out of curiosity. After 3 weeks of cutting down on the cigs, got up one morning for work at 5am, had one cig left in the pack, smoked it and thought I'll see how long I can go just vaping today. That was the last smoke I've had
I think most of us had a similar experience, I took a bit longer but only because I had just got back from Belgium and had stocked up on ciggies, 1st day on an eGo, I was down from 25 to 13 a day.next day only 7, 3rd day only 3, thought "how am I going to get rid of these 440 cigs", ended up giving the missus 400, and smoked 20 of the 40 in the next 10 days, gave up and still have 20 unopened in a paper drawer next to me
Ah, it was the mention of Covent Garden that made me think that, and Camberwell Arts College (near me) is world famous.
A good analogy would be the eSmarts etc that you use are a 1960s Mini, the Hana would be a Ferrari and you are a learner driver.
Do you build your own coils?
If you really want to get into something a bit bigger/more powerful than what you normally use, then I would suggest starting with an Itaste VTR, Vamo v5 or a Sigelei Tmax, but you will still need a charger for the batteries as they also take the 18650s (they look like extra large rechargeable AAs 18mm diameter and 65mm tall), possibly a multimeter if you don't have one to check the voltages of the batteries and resistance of the coils.
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